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Thor: Love and Thunder (2022) - Sesskasays

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Ryan

A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one. There, I said the thing, I'll be back after watching it with full thoughts.

DieWinterkirsche

THE TIMING!! LMAO... Today I thought about when you would react to the next MCU-movie, aaaand there it is xD

Thomas Corp

Responding to the comment on youtube: sorry to hear the copyright struggle was strong with this one. Missed this film in the theaters, though I kept hearing everyone say it was awful. Finally saw it, I think it was around this past May? Around then? I misremember it seems. My thought is I get why people did not like it, though I didn’t think it was THAT bad. Certainly, it was better than Thor The Dark World as that is still the worst MCU film, or at least my least favorite MCU film. I wasn’t over fond of this one, but I didn’t hate it. It was all right. Ragnarök is the best Thor film, I agree with you on that one, Jess. I will say that with this one that there is a strong amount of “Throw everything at the wall and see what sticks” energy to this film, which is one of my bigger pet-peeves in particularly comedic films. I also recognize that the MCU’s usual humor is, at times, not my favored cup of tea, so the two things combined, well it’s far from dull, though it proves tiresome at spots, to me, anyway. I am sympathetic to how you say you most appreciate the humor. I respect that that’s your opinion. I am saying that a little more discipline and restraint with the writing would be nice. My brain can only take so much overstimulation. Nice to see Natalie get some decent time in the spotlight. I like how you liked that the powers didn’t just cancel out her illness, and how we see Thor contend with her impending death. Sidenote, that vending machine scene hurt as it was TOO real. Well, in point of fact, I never took my frustrations out on a hospital vending machine, but that thing of you bring in all the snacks and do so with that painted on smile was a little too close to home. I think I just munched on the bags of peanuts myself during hospital visits. Same here with not being invested in that romance, which contrasts my having the strong investment with the romance in Attack of the Clones throughout the years. I blame John Williams for going so hard with the music on that one. The dynamic here: Well, it’s... Better than it was previously. Loved your reaction to Jane going to Valhalla. This film continues a rather troubling trend of the MCU in that they have a good villain, or at least an interesting villain, and they just don’t give them the proper spotlight because all the kids today are more interested in the heroes, adults too from the sound of it. Which gives me feelings of loneliness stronger than that of the loneliness that I went through as a kid, still trying to wrap my head around that one. I mean, Gorr was decent, though it is a fascinating experience, getting pulled out of the scene when Gorr cozies up to Thor all buddy-buddy like, because you just expect him to say, “Hey, Thor! You like Huey Lewis and the News?” If nothing else, he is a more memorable villain than the villain in Thor The Dark World. Faint praise though that is as my bathmat makes more of an impression than... er... uh... ah shit, whatever the fuck was the name of the Dark Elf villain that was played by Christopher Eccleston. Talk about wasting a terrific actor in a movie. Quite amusing how you second guessed yourself on the casting. Your reactions to Korg’s fakeout death was the emotional high point of the reaction. Nice to see you like the goats as most people seem to hate them. I didn’t mind them, just felt the gag went on too long. It’s amusing how this film of all places has perhaps the most accurate portrayal of Zeus. Nice that you liked the kids, that one kid in particular was good. Great reaction to them fighting at the end. You spoke of it being just the tiniest bit terrifying. Maybe. I’m hardly one to talk. Alas, the Guardians depart early, which means tragically little of Karen as Nebula. On the other hand, this also means Star-Lord, goddamn imbecilic, idiotic, totally moronic shithead that he is, departs the film early which rids us of his goddamn fucking stupidity, thank the fuck Christ. Love your continued love for Mantis. I also keep needing far more Sam Neill than what has been provided, by the same token, I keep cracking up over the FANTASTIC joke that is Matt Damon as Actor-Loki. With it, however, is rather strong melancholy flaring up over lots of my co-workers not understanding the joke, at all. So, as I say, glad you liked the film better than I. This brings my list of MCU films I still need to see to Shang-Chi, Wakanda Forever, Guardians 3, and The Marvels. I would say the newest MCU film, but I’m seeing that on Wednesday with a buddy of mine. Your comment on the long length of the next film you planned to watch tells me Wakanda is next, so I’ll have to find time to get that viewing in. But I suppose that’s my problem. In any event, an enjoyable reaction, Jess, thank you.

Ryan

James Gunn pulled quite a baller move when he said that even if this movie hadn't provided an explanation for Thor leaving the Guardians, he never once had any intention of acknowledging the ending of Endgame in Volume 3. It probably helps that he now gets to say to any studio people for the rest of his life "Go ahead and try to fire me. See what happens." That movie also showed that the only thing a lot of people needed for Peter Quill to get back on their good side was for Peter himself to acknowledge even once just how badly he fucked up with Thanos, kind of like how the Hamilton song about the Maria Reynolds affair had a single "How could I do this?" added in late in the writing process as Miranda realized it was the only way he could retain any audience sympathy.

Ryan

Much like Quantummania, I saw this movie on opening weekend before anyone could tell me I was supposed to hate it, and I didn't, so now I'm stuck having the wrong opinion about it. Sorry, I guess. And I felt that way even before learning about how even by the standards of how much COVID messed up all the MCU projects so far post-Endgame, this movie in particular went through a metric ton of rewrites and re-edits, so that it's kind of a miracle the final version is at all comprehensible. Most notably, there was an entire subplot cut with Lena Headey in a major role, and apparently it was such a big deal that everyone still refuses to say who her character was in case they can use her again. Peter Dinklage and Jeff Goldblum also filmed scenes with Gorr that no one has ever seen. But every time I look for the seams in the story, I can't find any, because Waititi cares enough about his work to make it as sensible as he can no matter the circumstances. There had been crossover actors between Marvel and DC before, but Batman playing a main villain is still quite a step up that I never thought we'd see. Christian Bale actually had never heard of the MCU and thought it was just an early 2000s style standalone comic book movie, which he was basically strongarmed into taking by his kids. And apparently Gorr's characterization went through a ton of changes during filming as they tooled around with how sympathetic to make him, but none of that stress shows in his performance, bringing exactly the right amount of both menace and tragedy. Natalie Portman had such a disappointing time making The Dark World that she opted out of Ragnarok and intended to never come back, but upon being approached with an adaptation of the comic story where Jane both gets cancer and takes on Thor's powers, she changed her mind. And I'm very glad that happened, because her whole role is a blast, even if I'm distracted thinking "Wait until you hear about her other ex who sent her into some lost the will to live bullshit." Quite a few cast and crew members have spoken out about their regret at how far the movie leans into the comedy, and there are a few bits that don't work for me (most of all the Thanos-themed ice cream place, which makes even less sense in-universe than the Stab movies), but for the most part I was totally on board, especially since Waititi has always had a good sense of when he should stop with the joking (Scarlett Johansson's shoes, all I'll say). He's bowed out of making any more MCU films in favor of Star Wars, and I can't wait to see what that looks like.

Thomas Corp

Quantumania I caught on opening weekend, that Saturday to be specific, and already I heard some of the bile. My own thought was that it paled compared to the first two Ant-Man films, it wasn’t as fun, yet it was still decent enough, and my buddy and I had a good time. Here, like I said, once I got to Love and Thunder, I got the complaints, yet I still didn’t find it as irretrievably awful as I kept hearing it was. Of course, in terms of being stuck having the wrong opinions, I guess that’s been me with the Prequel Trilogy, most everything Disney Star Wars, and both Crystal Skull and Dial of Destiny. Yeah, covid really did a number on the MCU plans, to a point that I feel bad whenever I have a lukewarm feeling toward a film like this one. I’m PISSED there’s no Lena, and I pray we get her somewhere down the line. I assume Lena’s not in this newest MCU film as she’s not been mentioned on the list of people who are in it that I’m stuck spoiled on because the internet will NOT SHUT THE FUCK UP about any of that, the ASSHOLES. Still got mixed feelings on Gorr. Good or at least interesting enough villain, like I said. The continuous problem is that the MCU doesn’t like focusing on the villains as much as I want them to. I concede that maybe I’m just getting harder to please as I get older. Shared feelings on being happy that Natalie had a better time on this one. Likewise, shared jokes about her ex who kept chattering away about how much he hated sand. (Man, we cannot avoid those jokes, can we?) The comedy irks me more in how overwhelming it is, and how strongly ad-lib in nature a lot of it feels. I’m not even averse to ad-libbing/improvisation, I just prefer it tempered somewhat. It reaches bad levels when you can tell the director likes everything too much and just throws it all in; the worst case of that being probably the toasting scene in Bridesmaids. I know too that Taika does have that improvisatory energy to his work. Here, it felt like everybody overindulged and nobody did like how Mike Nichols made Nathan Lane and Robin Williams promise on The Birdcage that they’d do at least one take as scripted before improvising. I actually did crack up at the Thanos ice cream parlor as that’s very much my sense of humor, and I do have a “Thanos Was Right” coffee mug. Plus, I got plenty of Order 66 memorabilia and my brother and I swap so many memes about the younglings. I’d be fine if Taika ever did a Marvel movie again. I am looking forward to his Star Wars work. But more discipline on the ad-libbing, please.

Jenny Chalek

I just tried playing part 2, and it's part 1 all over again. Help?

Thomas Corp

Yeah, same thing here when playing it on the website. The download for part two is available if that helps you. I just tried it myself, and it plays part two of the reaction.