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RoboCop (1987) - Sesskasays

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Matthew

What you've never watched Robocop?? ... Neither have I!

Thomas Corp

I first saw this around this time of year, ten years ago now. Paul Verhoeven sure does deliver a good time of a film that I like that you liked it more than you were anticipating. Yes, short, sweet, and very lean. No fat or bullshit, and it’s great. Peter Weller does so well as the title character. Fair enough on wanting greater expansion on the tragedy and horror of what Murphy was subjected to and how largely apathetic everyone was about it. What we did get was great. Horrifying what happens to him. During the big scene of trying to save Murphy, it hit me, “Oh, wait, were there needles in this, and I didn’t warn Jess?” Seeing the one needle made me go, “Oh, SHIT! Yeah, that’s a... Oh, ok, there is some discretion here as they’re not showing it be administered, thank you.” Thus, I anticipated you would look away and look at us during the appearance of the needle. I also loved your astonishment that he survived what he survived. Revenge does WONDERS for the will to live. Don’t you think? You mentioned the film being far more violent than expected. I thought as much that that would be your response. It does seem a consistent sentiment amongst first-time viewers, and it makes sense. If one is unfamiliar with Verhoeven’s style, the over-the-top gratuitous violence and gore is delightfully jarring. This is a movie that proves how much of a SICK man that I am, because I tell you that I CACKLED the first time I saw the ED-209 scene, the feeling persists. Your own reaction to it made me laugh myself silly. Likewise, I lived for your reaction to the line, “Somebody want to call a goddamn paramedic!” and the old man’s line, “Dick. I’m VERY disappointed.” The villains are fantastic. Ronny Cox is great as Jones. You did not seem to recognize him, which implies that I have a REALLY FANTASTIC reaction to look forward to down the line, but that won’t be for a while. A few years probably. My favorite character is Clarence. Kurtwood Smith just grabs this movie, makes off like a thief in the night, and never looks back. Figured you’d like the Twin Peaks of it all, namely Miguel Ferrer and Ray Wise. The latter, when I watched this again, seeing him made me say, “Oh, yeah, he’s in this. All right, there’s two Twin Peaks guys for Jess in this one. Well, ok.” Miguel does well at making Bob hateful and making you await his comeuppance. Said comeuppance arrives in the scene which contains the line, “Bitches, leave.” that REALLY should NOT be as insanely hysterical as it is. You made the comment about it, and said comment made me profusely apologize, Jess, as the line cracks me up every time, largely for how blunt the line delivery is. In the scene, also, when you said the guy is a psychopath, I quipped, “...Which one?” and when you noted that yourself, I laughed. Then there is Lewis, who I KNEW you would love. Nancy Allen is so terrific as Lewis, and she and Peter, as you noted, sold really great energy with each other with minimal time, and it’s great. Love how Lewis catches the spinny-spins, and from that, becomes Murphy’s staunchest ally. That big final battle has such great villainous demises, chiefly Emil’s GRUESOME death, your reaction to that was SPECTACULAR. It says something how much you loved Lewis when she kills Leland, and you were yelling, “There you FUCKING GO!!” before having a quiet goodbye to Leland. Clarence got a dramatic death via the data interface spike, which I should have known you would make a mention likening RoboCop’s data interface spike to Echo, good man that he is. Your reaction to that was so fun, as was your reaction to Jones getting his, and yes, of course, Hans did it better. Love the one guy in the boardroom during the scene first, shooting the look that screams, “Oh, you are FUCKED.” to Jones, and upon his death how he flashes the big smile and thumbs up to Murphy. Other small notes of interest with this reaction: you mentioned about the insults. Oh, this movie excels with the insults. You are correct on that, Jess. Also: Nice to see your reaction to the Harryhausen style Betty. This was a really fun reaction, Jess, and I’m loving sharing these films with you. Next month, we get to the one film in this series that I’ve not seen before. I’ll have to get to watching that by the month’s end. But before I do, I’m skipping ahead to the month after’s movie, getting a rewatch of that in to prepare for my trip to the movie theater on Thursday, for what I foresee will be a VERY fun time. Until then, I adored this reaction, Jess, thank you so much.

Ryan

One of the weirder things about being a kid in the '80s, which I'm sure I'd have a hard time convincing younger people of if I couldn't point to the evidence on Youtube, is that quite a few extremely adult-oriented movies were advertised directly to us with toy lines, and sometimes even cartoons. So that was my introduction to the likes of Robocop, the Terminator, Aliens, Predator, and perhaps most shockingly of all, the Toxic Avenger. I imagine it stopped when they realized none of it was making much of a dent against the absolute marketing juggernaut of Ninja Turtles, and after that Power Rangers. My parents were enough on the ball even in those pre-Internet days to not let us see any of them, but I still managed to see this one at an immorally young age thanks to my local video store (ask your parents). And I can say without hesitation that nothing in my life had prepared me for it, not just the violence but all the clever social satire that went right over my head as I just took it all at face value. It's good to see you got the director's cut, which retains Verhoven's intention of the violence being so over the top that eventually you have to just laugh at it. The studio didn't get the joke, so the theatrical release had just enough of it taken out to be genuinely disturbing, the exact opposite of what they were trying to do. Most of all this hurt the first ED-209 demonstration, where that guy asking for a paramedic actually seems reasonable rather than ridiculous. That version also doesn't bother to make clear that Lewis survived her injuries, and I knew you'd get super into her as a rare female action hero at the time allowed to be totally competent in her own right and never the butt of any jokes. And that brings me to the part I can most appreciate better watching this movie as an adult, the comedy brilliance of ED-209. The company's pride and joy which they've sunk so much money into, and such an obvious disaster that even Vault-Tec might have hesitated about taking it public. Right from the moment it's introduced with that charming stop-motion animation, we see that it won't respond at all to a gun being pointed at someone else, only itself, followed by not noticing the gun being dropped, and that still might not have been so bad if someone didn't have the bright idea to give it a full complement of live rounds just for a boardroom demonstration. Then it turns out it can't handle stairs, but apparently can only figure this out by dipping its toe like a kid scared of a pool. And for some reason it's programmed to squeal like a pig when stuck on its back, as if the lion roar when threatening someone wasn't silly enough. And for the cherry on top, our last look is Murphy taking one out like the last episode of Breaking Bad, leaving its legs staggering around like a drunk. The people in charge of the franchise clearly knew what they had here, since it's the only character (in a certain sense of the word) besides Murphy himself who appears in at least most of its entries. The storytelling here is pretty much a precursor to The Crow, where you don't have much dramatic tension until near the end when the bad guys finally figure out how to hurt the hero, so until then it gets by on making his targets so colorfully despicable that it's fun just to see them get so manhandled by a guy they clearly have no chance against. After your excitement at Kyle MacLachlan in Fallout I knew you'd go nuts for both Miguel Ferrer and Ray Wise being in this one, and when you add in people like Ronny Cox, Paul McCrane (who'd get some big karma for shooting someone's arm off soon enough), and Kurtwood Smith (who learns just how much he stuck his foot in the wrong ass this time), there's enough to go around for two movies. Although they actually toned down what a jerk Bob was in the original script due to Ferrer's natural sweetness making it too unbelievable, not surprising from one of only two actors who I've seen be able to give a big dramatic speech condemning all violence without coming off as an insufferable smug prick (the other is Peter Capaldi in The Zygon Inversion). And it would have been nice if Dick's death didn't come with one of the most terrible optical effects ever that got a ton of ridicule even back then (what's with the orangutan arms?). But for all the amazing social and political satire here, what really carries you through is your attachment to Murphy himself. As the saying goes, Peter Weller can do more acting with his lower jaw than some can with their whole body, and the extended POV sequence of his death and rebirth gives you just enough to be invested in his quest to regain his humanity. His final proud statement of his name is just as much a triumphant moment as anything he does to the bad guys, and I love that they knew nothing could possibly top it so they just end the movie right there. Nothing could illustrate this movie's impact like how it's led to a multimedia franchise with other movies, a TV show, a cartoon, comics, and probably more, even as the fans still overwhelmingly agree this first movie is the only part that's any good. As the Terminator said of a later entry in his Epic Rap Battle against Robocop, "That movie failed Detroit worse than the automotive industry." And you can see why they keep trying anyway, with so many eras since being ripe for this particular kind of vicious mockery wrapped around a recognizable IP. And as someone who used to think there would never be a good Alien movie again and was made to eat my words when I saw Romulus, I'm now newly energized to hope this can come back too. I'm not going to let you fade away like Bing Bong, Murphy, I still believe in you!

Ryan

One other casting note I had to point out after getting to more of the reaction: the first reporter we see talking about the hostage situation at the mayor's office is the result of trawling through the local talent, which picked up a little known improv comic named Bill Farmer, soon to hit the big time by becoming the voice of Goofy in the early '90s which he's retained to this very day. Or if you prefer, Hop Pop in Amphibia.

Ziro the Hutt

Ah the legendary Robocop. As Ryan notes, this film was one of the cultural landmarks of the 80's in film and media, along with other giants like Star Wars (yes the first one was 1977, but the other two are classed as 80's films), ET, Terminator, Indiana Jones, Back To The Future, The Breakfast Club, Ferris Bueller that you watched recently, Gremlins, Batman and several others; and this film had a huge following with kids who took the violence for what it was, slapstick over the top fun. Its a terrific satire on many things, especially American capitalism and how the need to make a buck for corporations, pushes the boundaries - or in this case breaks them down with making Robocop to overcome Detroits crime issues - in order to monopolise the market in armoured tech. Verhoeven is noted as going over the top in his films, but each one is generally a hoot, but Robocop was his magnum opus where everything he did and was trying to say, landed. Ronny Cox (who you'll meet again soon Jess) is terrific, as is the rest of the cast and Peter Weller gives the performance of his career as the tragic hero Murphy, forced into becoming Robocop after being brutally attacked on his rounds. Seeing him accept this by the end, but bring back the semblence of humanity still within him, is great and a perfect way to end the film after all the yobs are dealt with. It may be too much for some, but once you've seen Robocop, you never forget that you have seen it, unlike too many of the films released today.

Brodie Vickers

I think we should all just be thankful that it never came down to any feet going into asses.