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Fallout 1x08 Full Reaction! (Patreon)

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Ryan

Some people smile at the end of the day. Some people laugh, I suppose. But to me there's nothing but gloom and despair. It's just how the story goes. We've known since the start that Cooper ended up divorcing Barb and had his career reduced to doing birthday parties, so you had to figure this ended pretty badly, but I doubt anyone saw coming just how bad it could get. This is apparently a giant orgasm moment for the long time fans with all the board members being people from the games, but newbies like me were able to focus entirely on the Dr. Strangelove/Network/Brazil level of brutal political satire that you really do buy would knock Cooper for such a loop that he probably missed some important information while his ears were ringing. It's of course also a real treat to see MacLachlan de-aged to Twin Peaks era, and with an effect rather closer to Marvel than Star Wars quality. Your growing love for Norm through the season has been tempered the whole time by knowing the reward his detective work gets him, though at least he hasn't made any decision the last we see him, so there's a chance Season 2 starts with him figuring out some third option. It had to have been a tricky editing job figuring out what order all the different pieces of the big twist should go in, and it all flows perfectly naturally. All aided by the marvelous comedy support from Michael Esper, who's literally credited here as "Brain on a Roomba." Definitely want to see more of him. So what was that you were saying in the first episode, "Your dad is Kyle MacLachlan? Lucky!" And even with the obvious signs that there was some twist coming with him, I was totally surprised by the exact nature of it, to which you can only say, Why are there people like Hank? Hey, the names rhyme and everything, they had to be asking for the connection on some level. And with him now going off to make a meat dragon out of baby hands or whatever, one of the parts I'm most looking forward to next season is what MacLachlan can do with this role now that he gets to just be openly evil. And by the way, that's not Seattle he's going to at the end but New Vegas, a location so important one of the games is named after it, but I have no more info there. And boy, Ella Purnell just has the worst luck reuniting with family members. It's been part of all four roles I've seen her in, and the one where she's eaten before it can happen is by far the best outcome. But this does bring me to the one real problem I have with the show so far, and it's kind of a big one. Everything about the twist is played like we're now supposed to see Moldaver as being the good guy this whole time, which doesn't jibe at all with everything we saw in the first episode. Even if she convinced herself that level of violence against innocent people wouldn't necessarily happen, one part she knew would definitely happen was the rape by deception of the daughter of the woman she was probably in love with. So congrats, you have the same level of moral superiority as the heroes of Revenge of the Nerds. And with her being dead, the chances of this building to more moral complexity take a big dive. It got even more awkward just this week, now that we've seen it's possible to portray goddamn Megatron with a more convincing sense of right and wrong. Watching the show again has given me a pretty solid speculation for where Season 2 can go: Lucy's whole sense of self being so shattered causes her to become absolutely obsessed with revenge against her father, and willing to do more and more villainous things herself in pursuit of it. And by the time Maximus catches back up to her, he's outraged to see she's now willingly doing the kinds of things he's been forced to do by the Brotherhood and hates himself for. And if that is where this is going, I have no idea if he'll be able to pull her back. Of course, a big part of that is we've seen how great Ella can be at that kind of performance vocally, so I'm very curious how she handles it in live action. If the trailer for Sweetpea is any indication, it could be pretty great. I'm gonna vote for Betty.

Neburcs
>>150548895

I don't think they want us to view Moldaver as a good guy. In typical fallout fashion Moldaver and her faction have good intentions for the Wasteland. They want to save it, just like how the Brotherhood also wants to save it. However the problem is that they believe their ends justify their means. There's no purely good faction in the Wasteland, the Wasteland corrupts everyone and everything. As we have seen when we've gotten to follow Lucy and her journey. But I do believe the writers wants us to view Moldaver as the lesser of two evils. I also agree with you that it would have been more interesting to see Moldaver live and learn more about her. Her hatred for Vault-Tec that most likely fueled her hatred towards the vault dwellers.

Thomas Corp

They did pack a hefty punch with this finale. They cranked up the horror and drama this finale, and they were light on the laughs. Start by talking about Maximus. Unsurprisingly, his ruse runs its course pretty goddamn quick, especially when he has to disclose the cause of death of the knight. To be clear, his last act WAS to run his mouth up a storm, so your correction was appropriate, Jess. Bad for Maximus, though his goose is saved. Interesting to reveal his fellow brother deliberately injured themself, thus answering that question. Nice to see Michael Cristofer back as the holy man, and it is chilling seeing him offer Maximus the We Can Rule Together sales pitch. Poor Norm. I am far too wicked of a man as I had to fight tooth and nail to not cackle when you were hoping that Norm would not die. Which, they granted that request. Shame that he remains in the tight spot with brain jar roomba. Shared reaction to the needle. I am not speculating on Norm. I’m just playing the waiting game with you, Jess. Speaking of said brain jar, not a new sight given his tiny car. You said you were liking Bud’s car for it looking snug, I can’t drive, and even if I could I’d pass on that car. I’m short so the snugness of the car would feel constraining. Leading to the big reveals that I got somewhat spoiled on. I’ll speak a bit more about that later. Walton went full-out method as you can just see his soul leave his body when he overhears the vaulters playing their games. That’s what they do. They PLAY games. That’s all. They play games. What if? How many men? What would it take? Is there a cheaper way to destabilize a regime? That’s what Miss Barb is paid to do. And she drops the big game plan by bringing to the table the idea of dropping the bomb themselves. Which rocks the Ghoul to the core so much he almost doesn’t register the presence of Hank. And I loved your reaction to both reveals, Jess. You have nothing to apologize for. Particularly great is how Hank was so out of left field leading to that scream. Since the youtube algorithms were uncouth and gauche, when the name Henry got mentioned in this episode, (though I didn’t catch it earlier, now you mention it) the waiting game was played. Bringing us to Hank. There already was the MASSIVE red flag of Kyle having third billing in the main cast. Not “Special Guest Star”, not “Special Appearance By”, third billing. The star power, prominent billing, combined with all the Messiah talk with Hank, even without the discourteous algorithms, there is the expectation that it would be revealed that Hank is a very naughty boy. The full scope and the precise details, that was the mystery. It guts you some seeing the truth revealed, certainly I felt your reaction, Jess. It hit you bad enough, leaving you shocked, stunned, gooped, and plucked, like you said. The reveal about Rose being particularly bad. I presume that Shady Sands did not have a local cafe which offers the Sunday special of good cherry pie and a damn fine cup of coffee combo, hence furthering, in Hank’s mind, the egregious betrayal committed by his wife. Ella sells well how her soul just crumbles as she finds herself stuck between the monsters that are her father and Moldaver. Speaking of Moldaver. You did not miss anything about Moldaver’s fabulous beauty treatments. The one idea is that she might have had access to the vault pods, but that is never confirmed, nor do we have answer as to Moladver’s unnaturally long life. Certainly, she feels, like I said the opposite extreme at the other end of the horseshoe. Hank tries to argue she’s no different than he is, I note, “Agreed. But it does not make you any less of a monster, sir.”

Thomas Corp

Ultimately, Lucy does acquiesce to the monster who at least is somewhat self-aware about it, and does have the altruistic goal, even if I always have zero faith with these kinds of shows that the goals will go the way they think. The action picks up, leading to an impressive display. Again, an occasion where you see the Ghoul do his thing, being a spooky Ghoul and pumpkin pie, and you say to the Ghoul, “Suave! Goddamn you’re one suave fucker!” Shame there’s no prominent music selection for the Ghoul cutting through the tin can soldiers. Given the love of big band in my family, if I were the Ghoul, I’d pipe in Sing, Sing, Sing (With a Swing) for the action, and dance and shoot have a grand and therapeutic time, whilst profusely apologizing to you, Jess, for the ensuing copyright struggle, editing-wise. I almost thought that Hank killed Maximus, and I would have applauded the shows for their balls on that one. A strikingly human moment where broken though Lucy is, she still cannot shoot her father. Our good Ghoul, of course, has no such reservations. The Ghoul confronts Hank and asks his question of where his fucking family is. Me, I’d have a separate question, asking Hank, “Hey, fuckhead. Yeah, you, fuckhead. Just one thing I got to know... Sandworms. You hate ‘em, right? I hate ‘em myself!” It is that scene that finally answers Lucy’s question to the Ghoul of how he lives like he does, why keep going: he has not learned if his family, namely his daughter lives still. The Ghoul needs that question answered. Even if he finds out that his family has been dead all this time, (I don’t know, mind you, I’m speaking hypothetically,) he needs to know. Of course, if he does find out that his family has been dead all this time, he will then likely start to implore the stars to decide to give him a less fleeting appointment far from everything, in their realm of perennial certainty. Until then, he refuses to die. I respect that, hell, I admire it. Unfortunately, the questions remained unanswered as Hank bibbidi bobbidi booped on out of there as you predicted, and the stuck pig is nice enough to leave the blood trail for the Ghoul to follow. Plus, it means further great acting from Kyle for you to relish and enjoy. And after Lucy puts down her mom, we got the team-up for next season that I greatly anticipate. My comment being, “Ghoul. Lucy. I think this is the beginning of a beautiful friendship.” and our Good Girl is involved too. So. Okey Dokey. Here we go. Sucks for Maximus trapped after being hailed as the killer of Moldaver. And Hank has made it to, as you said the same, a significant location from the games. I presume. KNEW you were going to make a Lion King reference. As we see, this time John Wayne does not walk off into the sunset with Grace Kelly. Depressing endings all around, even for the villains. The Ghoul’s probably the only one who got close to a happy ending given as mentioned, the prominent lead on his family. All in all, bleak. Love that. Thus concludes the season. It feels like the masses enjoyed this more than I. I wasn’t as over the moon as everyone else was. I don’t think that, the Ghoul aside, I was AS invested in our protagonists as everyone else was, intriguing characters though they are. But this was a great experience. I had a great time with this show. And I’m glad I saw this season. I look forward to more, the Ghoul especially. And I await your future reactions when the time comes. I appreciated your thanks at the end. I know you are often wary with diving into new shows and fandoms. This one seems quite nice, and I see favorable numbers thus far on youtube. I thank you for the wonderful time, and just your lovely insights, Jess. All of it is most appreciated.

Ryan
>>150565829

It's especially neat to go back to the first episode and know the Cooper's reaction isn't just "They actually did it" but specifically "My wife actually did it." And I imagine part of the divorce process was someone on the board saying "You have meddled with the primal forces of nature, and I won't have it!" It's an especially clever clue that Lucy's childhood memory with her mother includes the sun feeling real. It's that perfect sweet spot of giving you the exact information you need, but not being obvious about it.

Ryan
>>150565838

The really great thing about this story being in the world of the games but not based on any of them is there's no burning temptation to look up what happens next for however long it takes to get to Season 2. I seriously don't know how the non-game playing Last of Us fans have been doing it for the last year and a half, especially with the big deal the rest of us keep making about a big huge thing that's about to happen. I was especially impressed with how the show handles what's always the insanely annoying moment where someone refuses to just use their words that would stop someone doing the wrong thing until it's too late. Here, it's totally believable that Lucy would be reeling so much that it would be that hard for her to explain about Hank, plus the irrational but very human feeling that saying it out loud would make it irreversibly real.