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Agatha All Along 1x09 Full Reaction! (Patreon)

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Thomas Corp

Again, you are most welcome for all the love you’ve received for the Agatha videos. Agatha is definitely top tier of the MCU shows. Amusing to hear that people weren’t recognizing you because of the red hair, well, because you’re sans red hair. I’ve been following you since you had the darker shade of brown way back when; the red hair threw me for a momentary loop if I’m being honest, though I got used to it. This episode, like we gathered, felt more denouement than finale. The last episode was very Ozymandias, and this is Granite State and Felina. Alternatively, the final episodes of Better Call Saul that aired after the three-part finale of that show. Loved how you just took in everything about the flashbacks. We finally see Agatha’s baby boy. I expected he’d more resemble Walter Huston, but that’s just me having one of my favorite films on the brain upon hearing the name of Mr. Scratch. A hell of a thing to see how mother and son created the ballad and used it to lure unsuspecting witches. The origin of a banger, as you put it. You know Nicky’s end is coming, and you are unprepared for how Kathryn breaks your heart. Then of course, she runs with the con. Counting on the witches to get angry enough to strike so Agatha can get the straw out. Probably goad some of them, saying, “Hey, come on, we can hash this out whilst we break bread. We’ll have a little bite, something to nosh.” The montage of that was glorious. You apologize for vibing with it as you did. I vibe beyond all hell with the Disney Villain songs, not to mention pretty much the entirety of Sweeney Todd. Do you REALLY think I’m going to offer any judgment towards you, Jess, for vibing so much with a killer song that lures countless witches to their tragic deaths? No, I am not. In retrospect, props to Lilia for calling the score, only missing the fact that the road was never real. Likewise, Agatha arguing with Jen, lyrics-wise, carries additional weight, like you said. Consequently, when Sharon notes the door, Agatha has that, “I’m sorry, what now?” combined with a “Holy SHIT.” look when William made it all real. It was William All Along! (And he killed Sharon too!) He quivers with guilt for killing people. Like mother, like son, no? Rather nice of Agatha to point out about Jen’s survival. Thus, she gets to be “The final! Girl! BITCH!” as you say, so he can put some sealing wax on his bleeding heart and stop feeling so damn guilty. It gets you so bad when William tries to banish Agatha. Namely, Kathryn just CLEAVING DEEP into my soul when she yells, “I can’t face him!” Holy hell, that got me. You observe how Agatha’s got quite the hang of the ghostliness of it all. She’s besties with Vincent Schiavelli, I’m guessing, hence her having the knack for the ghostly business lickety-split. And our two leads realize that there is another adventure on the horizon, thus continuing the fascinating dynamic that they have. Lovely your reaction to William memorializing the three iconic divas. Then they commit to easing on down the road again. Lady Death will probably crash the party somewhere down the road. Which, well: The game of life is hard to play. We’re gonna lose it anyway. The losing card we’ll someday lay. So, we’ll cross that bridge when they inevitably encounter Lady Death again in their journey of being off to see Tommy. Speaking of, I guess that’ll be season two: William with the ghost of his godmother, dear old Auntie Agatha, searching for the other talented Mr. Maximoff. Sounds like a hot time in the old town. And I shared your cry of needing so much more. Likewise, shared the concern and worry for Not Billy William’s parents. The plus is that they will be presumably safe, though hopefully the dad does not accompany Janet McTeer to the island restaurant where Ralph Fiennes is in charge of the kitchen. In any case, this was an amazing time, Jess. Shame about the goddamn snake bitch, now your least favorite character of all the Marvel universes. Everyone else was great. Your love for Sharon being particularly lovely. It just warms the heart to hear you express such adoration for the love you received. I so treasured sharing this show with you, Jess, thank you so, so very much.

Ryan
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I still haven't seen Ghost, and I have the feeling it's going to be one of those things where I end up gushing about how good it is, and everyone who's been recommending it for years says "What, did you think we were lying?" Much appreciated how the show never spells out this is why Agatha was so insistent the lyric is "coven two," letting us notice it and feel smart if we do, while anyone who doesn't still doesn't feel like they're missing anything.

Thomas Corp
>>154230381

It does hold up remarkably well. Even some of the spotty special effects works in today’s age. I could see the gushing outcome being most likely. The show was good on not explicitly spelling out the coven two thing.

Ryan

First, the thing that didn't work for me here, which is thankfully not too big a deal: There are certain actors who can make formal old timey dialogue sound like the way they naturally talk, and others who can't, and it turns out Kathryn Hahn is very much the latter. But since that's really not why she was hired in the first place, I can be totally fine with it. Just pull up any other scene from the show, and that's why she's here, plus she shows a surprising depth of dramatic talent while burying Nicholas, and her growing realization that Billy really can exorcize her. It was a huge relief that the show didn't use what happened to Nicholas as some blanket justification for everything Agatha has done. As Tolkien would put it, I cordially dislike this development in all its manifestations, and have done ever since I became old and wary enough to detect its presence (which was around the time ER had an episode that ended up saying "This guy has an adopted daughter who he loves, so it's perfectly okay that he's a horrible racist and homophobe"). After two viewings, I'm still a tad bit confused on the specifics, but I think the idea is that Death would hold off on Nicholas as long as Agatha kept supplying her with other deaths, so it's rather easier to see why Agatha is now so put off at her making such a big deal about just one returned soul "upsetting the balance." You also have to wonder how she handled half the life in the universe being erased and then coming back, and don't get her started on the new souls that are constantly being birthed by this guy Moon Knight. We're at the end, which means these deaths really do stick. Well, Sometimes You Hear the Bullet is a better title anyway. And seriously, what the hell happened behind the scenes with Debra Jo Rupp, because there's no way I buy this was all they ever wanted her for. And apparently Jen's survival was rather easier to see coming if you're familiar with this side of the comics, where she's the cousin of Johnny Blaze, aka Ghost Rider. He would actually fit pretty well into a second season the more I think of it, and given the huge success of this show, there's no reason to think that's not coming if they ever planned for it. Or maybe we just leave them all lost in time and lost in space and meaning; Disney seems to be taking a disheartening turn towards that lately. For now I'm just trying to be happy with what we got.

Ryan

One more thing: if you're going to make a song a central part of your story, to the point that it's played in its entirety several times, you'd better make damn sure it's good enough that everyone won't be absolutely sick of it by the end. And they actually pulled that off here.

Thomas Corp
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Yeah, fair point on the old-timey dialogue. To be fair, they just let Kathryn talk naturally like how the casts of Amadeus, The Grand Budapest Hotel, and/or The Death of Stalin did, so that way you just let Kathryn kill every scene without being distracting like Keanu Reeves with the atrociously stilted accent in Dracula. It is refreshing that young Nick is not used as some blanket justification for everything Agatha has done as you say. That’s still one of the best things about Palpatine: the few things we see of his past, there is no sympathetic backstory, no traumatic developments in his past that ruin anything. He just simply is pure evil incarnate, and as Ian McDiarmid describes, the dirtiest word ever to Palpy is “friend” and he’s beautifully wicked. Here, even with the sympathy and sadness one can feel toward Agatha, she’s done terrible things in her beautiful wickedness. Fairly positive you’re on the right track with Agatha’s dance with Lady Death in the pale moonlight. One does wonder how Lady Death and Agatha both dealt with the Snap, though assuming Agatha was not victim to the Snap, I suspect she got up to some FUN in those five years, and since most everyone was just trying to survive, lots of it flew under the Avengers radar. The business of Debra as Sharon: to quote my mom’s favorite line of both the episode you referenced, and the whole show, “I don’t know. If I had the answer, I’d be at the Mayo Clinic. Does this place look like the Mayo Clinic?” Was unaware of the Ghost Rider connection. We cannot just leave things behind, especially not this show. After all, in the MCU, we must continue to have superheroes. Come to feast. To taste the flesh. Not yet deceased. And all I know; is still the beast is feeding. We’ll see if the disheartened attitude does let up, and if not, if this is all we get, this was so goddamn good, that like you said, I’m happy with it.