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Star Trek: TNG 4x13 Full Reaction! (Patreon)

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Star Trek TNG 4×13 Full Reaction

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Jenny Chalek

Oooh. I love the yellow nails. Haven't watched yet, just admiring the thumbnail.

Ryan

Before getting to this episode, I have to acknowledge I'll have a bit of trouble concentrating on it because we just got the news that Spaceballs 2 is happening. And the announcement video shows that the people in charge are VERY on the ball of what's been happening in the genre over the last four decades, and if they're willing to go all in on mocking the whole legacy sequel and franchise trend, this could really be something special. My one request is that when Dark Helmet first appears, Oscar Isaac jumps out of nowhere to say "He somehow returned!" I definitely think he'd be willing to do it, with how much you can see his soul die as he says that line. You're not imagining things if this feels more like an original series episode rather than the identity TNG has carved out for itself since it started, as this was another Phase II script rewritten for the new show. Most of all, just about every review points out that Picard's role feels like it was barely changed from Kirk's, and Patrick seems even more uncomfortable in the scenes of Ardra's attraction to him than is written for him. I've never been able to find a good idea of exactly why this happened two years after the others were used to fill out a strike-shortened season, but here it is and we're stuck with it, and anyone's response to it is going to be very dependent on their tolerance for camp in general. So I figured it would be your bag. I'm typically very much into a con artist story, provided it's told in a way that actually plays fair instead of just making them totally omnipotent. Which is the main way the episode falls down for me, as Adra's scheme depends so much on technology beyond Clarke's Third Law that it's impossible to really be engaged in what she's doing. But Marta DuBois still makes for a very compelling antagonist and basically carries the whole thing; I guess once you've been to the trial of the Incredible Hulk, this is the logical next step. And it's neat to see the crew pushed so far out of their comfort zone trying to figure out all this nonsense science, though I could have done without Ardra going so far out of her way to involve them, and force them to unravel her scheme so she wouldn't run off with the Enterprise. I would have been perfectly fine if they just saw someone struggling under an enormous weight and provided leverage just because it's the right thing to do. We also got another killer meme out of it, with Picard's pose while saying "Did she not even pick up one piece of trash?" looking uncannily like he's angrily flipping the bird out of context. By now you can almost make a whole scene out of them.

Thomas Corp

A fantastic episode of Star Trek: The Devil and Daniel Webster. (Or would that be The Devil and Jean-Luc Picard?) As you say, it continues the season having the track record of damn good episodes. This was a solid episode. Maybe not to the caliber of other episodes this season, as you say, but solid, even with being irked by things that I think the episode intends you to be irked by. We both greatly appreciate the opening of Picard directing Data in A Christmas Carol on the holodeck. A wonderful nod to how our dear Sir Patrick Stewart had the one-man show of A Christmas Carol for years, and a preemptive nod to his starring role in the 1999 film adaptation of A Christmas Carol, which is my favorite adaptation of the story. I swear to God that Patrick is the BEST goddamn Scrooge that ever was or ever will be. Poor Data is worried about not being method, though he can learn. And the legendary Sir Patrick Stewart is right there, as you delightfully pointed out. Makes you say to Data, “Not to worry. You’ll get the hang of it yet, Brando.” Hear what you mean of the episode exploring how much does a society succeed by their own actions or from some higher deity. And that is explored, it just sort of got sidetracked by Ardra. Marta DuBois is terrific in the role, making you hate her rather quickly. Loved how you, Picard, and yes, me as well, had her number right out the gate. We just had to prove it. She bangs the devil drum loudly, asking does Picard not believe, I’d have said, “Well, lady, this is The Devil and Daniel Webster, and you don’t look like Walter Huston, so, no.” Alternatively, she’s not Tim Curry, Jack Nicholson, Al Pacino, Gabriel Byrne, Peter Stormare, Gwendoline Christie, I can keep going down the list if you like. You speak accurately that the lady has quite the bold personality. You also know how badly you dislike her when you never once comment on her fierce looks, her one outfit made me note, “Goddamn, that’s a perfect shade of green.” It is great how the crew does briefly discuss about her “powers” being real, largely thinking she could be part of the Q Continuum, with Beverly offering the idea that she is Q. And I love how both Picard and Deanna note that this whole scheme is not Q’s style. Knowing your triggers about unwanted sexual advances, I’m in the same boat, knew you’d have the aversion to Ardra going after Picard, though it is great to see Patrick demonstrating the strength of Picard’s stalwart character. In Picard’s shoes, I would be on the very last nerve as you said you were, probably even go so far as to say to Ardra, “Madame, I’ve never hit a woman before!” We both had the strong revulsion when Ardra went on about saying that she already had claim to Picard’s body. Knew your reactions to those lines would be about what they were. I would say in response to her “romantic” promises, “Oh, why do that!? Why don’t you just blow my brains out now and save you the trouble!?” The fact that she chose to imitate Deanna rather than Beverly to seduce Picard just confirmed to our Jean-Luc that the woman is full of shit. You and I clocked that as well. Perfectly subtle shorthand without explicitly spelling it out. Speaking of Beverly, I love how Gates, if you look closely in the one scene, gave Beverly a look shot at Ardra that screamed, “Bitch, fuck off!” somewhat echoing your own comments. Surprised that Ardra didn’t melt right then and there from the look that Beverly had there, I mean, that was a MAGNIFICENT look. We both appreciated how Picard and Data discuss the flimflam nature of Ardra. We move past the apocryphal quote from Barnum, though I’m also concerned with describing him as “wise”. That part induces a wince. Bringing us to the legal proceedings as this is a Devil and Daniel Webster homage. Which is a big reason why I quite enjoy this episode as I love that story, and the film adaptation is one of my favorite films. It is sweet how Data has that fear that his impartiality could cost Picard dearly, and it is likewise sweet how Picard has faith in Data. It does get dicey at spots. We both had the note of Data just doing the impartial job, and we did love it when he tacks on the “Sir.” at the one point. Tying back into the theme of accomplishing progress on one’s own, it is great how Picard impresses upon Jared that the people of the planet saved themselves. Marcelo Tubert plays it so well how Jared is realizing that Ardra never did but two things: Jack and shit, and Jack left town. Knew you’d adore it, Jess, how this “Ardra” underestimated the power of Geordi. He did the damn thing! How? With SCIENCE, of course!! We love to see it. God, is it fantastic when you had the squeal of joy and delight when Geordi showed up at the arbitration, signifying that she is going to get got by Geordi, as you put it with your wonderful song and dance. You jumped on her hypocrisy of being the charlatan quick, and I love how Data noted that it was fair play, though it does get a laugh when he asked Picard to cut it out. Love the satisfaction that Jonathan gave to Riker’s lines over the communicator when they expose the scheme. Ending in “Ardra” getting arrested by the shiny gentlemen as you described. And it is great how she has the “We’ll meet again” line, and you had the “How about NOOOOOO? Ya crazy flimflam bitch!” response. Oh, I just had a great time revisiting this episode. A great time that is now made better by seeing your most terrific reaction, Jess. A wonderful treat this Saturday afternoon, thank you so much.

Jenny Chalek

I think Ardra's performance was excellent. I get the discomfort around the entire topic of sexual manipulation, but knowing how much Picard would not fall victim to it, her trying so hard was objectively funny to me. And yeah, she picked the wrong woman to imitate, LOL.

Josef Schiltz

Picard: What do you want with me? Ardra: I must wander the known universe and my mission is to share what I am with Picard. Picard: Get lost! Ardra: Rowwr! Hey Tiger! Picard: From what I see it’s been overshared. Ardra: Meee- owwww! Picard: Look, just leave to my book. All I want is peace and I want no piece of you! Ardra: You don’t find me . . . desirable? Woof! Picard: Hmmph! I find you far too obvious! Ardra: Cock-a-doodle-doo! Would you rather I was a Vulcan? Picard: Get off my ship! Ardra: Baaaaa! - disappears. Picard: Computer! Air freshener. Place was starting to smell like a damn zoo! Ardra: (V.O) Oink!

Geordie Joe

We just finished The Trial of a Time Lord and then we get a TNG court episode straight after. Imagine if Ardra turned out to be The Valeyard. I'd love to see a Star Trek/Doctor Who crossover episode someday. The irony of the opening of this episode is that Patrick Stewart played Ebenezer Scrooge in the 1999 version of A Christmas Carol. Ardra choosing to impersonate Deanna in Picard's quarters was a clear indicator that she knew nothing about him. For Picard, the love interest for him on the crew was Beverly. If she was truly Ardra, she would have seen right through him and appeared as Beverly. The script for this episode was written for the TOS crew. The producers had to pull it out of mothballs because of a writers' strike in effect at the time of production. WGA rules say they can use scripts for which someone has previously been paid. But they can only superficially adapt it to other characters and settings. Anything beyond that is considered writing new material, which is breaking strike. That's why Troi receives such short shrift in this story. There was no direct counterpart with her abilities in TOS. So, a plot point using them would be new material.

Thomas Corp
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A Star Trek/Doctor Who crossover would be grand, yes. Picard directing Data in A Christmas Carol after Patrick had started his one-man show of the story, and years before the 1999 film adaptation, makes that scene one I really like. Best part of Ardra assuming the form of Deanna rather than Beverly is how the episode never spells out where Ardra messed up. It just counts on the viewer to know the score, and the scene is done very well. That is true that Deanna has little to do in this episode, which, as you note, there is no real direct counterpart to her in the original series. I do like how she does get the small moment when the crew ponders if Ardra is Q, how she notes that Q wouldn’t bother with economic forecasts, and Picard notes that he noticed that too. They also sell that Ardra is a formidable opponent when Deanna also notes that Ardra has a very focused mind and that it was hard to sense much of anything. Which could also be a stealth insult in the latter point.