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Star Trek TNG 4x14 Full Reaction! (Patreon)

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2025-06-21 17:00:08
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Star Trek TNG 4×14 Full Reaction

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Jenny Chalek

My favorite Saturday ritual - reliving my college years with you (I first watched TNG first run while in college).

Thomas Corp

Before talking about anything else, I don’t know what it is, but your hair looks great in this reaction, Jess. And great to hear you say that the small break was lovely for you, and your best friend both. Shame about the weather being hot, but then again, here in Illinois, over the next few days, it is going to be sweltering according to the weather reports. Understand the precautions you take with the picture taking. I have the reverse thing of people have to swear I travel with them as I’m usually not in any of the pictures. Again, understand that precaution with the crazy people, which would not include us, as you say. I’m a neurotic nut, granted, but I’m not crazy. And the concern about Squid Game has been crossing my mind as of late. Now to the episode. Asking “What the fuck is this episode?” is a fair response to this one. And good to see that you loved it. Wonderful start in the holodeck. We both lived for the holodeck scene. We both adored Guinan’s ensemble in the holodeck. A gorgeous look indeed. Sir Patrick Stewart doing his best Edward G. Robinson impression is delightful. Leading then into the central mystery of the Paxans trying to destroy the Enterprise, then acquiescing to the compromise of wiping the memories of the crew to keep their existence secret. They don’t count on Data being immune. They don’t count on Geordi, or Beverly. And most of all, they greatly underestimated Picard, just as “Ardra” did last week. They fail to realize that it’s always the thing with Picard, he always follows doctor’s orders, he decides to be a mensch. You know what that means? A human being. And as Picard himself explains to the Paxans, within most if not all human beings, lies an insatiable need to solve mysteries. (Though as you amusingly note, this applies to some human beings more than others.) And as you observe, Picard does have the responsibility to his crew, small mysteries piled up, the one Beverly had, he loves her and trusts her too much to know that she does not bullshit. Combine this with, as I said, Geordi and his brilliance, you can’t leave until the mystery is solved. It was also good to see more of Patti as Alyssa. Leads to one of the central conflicts of the episode and highlights of the reaction: Data trying to protect the crew, and the crew sensing Data being off. Love how you clocked he was acting out of the desire to protect. I hear what you meant about Data not having the readily apparent tells. Yet they are there, and you clocked them. Namely: Data is like Spock and Vulcans in general. It’s not that they can’t lie. They CAN, they just don’t/choose not to, unless they have a logical reason to do so. The Asperger’s parallels are very strong. You always strive to tell the truth, even when there are the rare occasions when you lie. You, Picard, and I caught Data’s exact words. As did the others, as they are very professional, intelligent people, like you said. Namely, they catch how Data kept saying “cannot” in regard to answering questions. Picard noticed that he was neither confirming nor denying certain suspicions. Lots of non-denial denials from Data; it would be like talking to the Nixon administration. Patrick and Brent were so great in those scenes of Data trying not to lie except in instances where he must as he has no exact word choices to fall back on, and Patrick going above and beyond selling Picard sensing that and his protectiveness toward Data. Just loved the writing for Data’s dancing around answering the questions. It’s like Ian McDiarmid avoiding spoiling to fans if he’d appear in the Obi-Wan show by not saying either “yes” or “no” when asked. (Which tipped me off that he would appear in the show, and I got gleefully ecstatic.) And it adds to Picard’s drive to solve the mystery as if Data is subjected to court martial, it’s curtains for him. Breaks the heart to see the bestie troubles, and LeVar gets you in the scenes where Geordi’s heart is broken when he’s uncertain about Data’s honesty. Surprised you didn’t count this as hurting Geordi actions, and by extension, you weren’t calling for the Paxans’ heads, on a plate, to go. There’s also the concern for Deanna. Yes, you speak true that when Deanna is off, we know some shit’s afoot. Likewise, we have been here before when Deanna says she’s fine when she’s not fine. Marina got some good scenes in this one. Love how though you incredulously inquired who else on the ship could hurt Worf as he was, and it turns out that it was Deanna all along. Answering your one query: The possession of Deanna gave her a strength boost, presumably. It is great how once Picard has the full picture, he assesses where things went wrong, and successfully implores to have the second chance; considering the first efforts as the dress rehearsal before the performance. I might have read things wrong, but I think they left a subconscious nugget of knowledge of what really happened in Picard’s mind so it would help keeping knowledge of what happened hush-hush. He had a conspicuous pause when Data sold the implication. Regardless, they leave peacefully, and Data has that great look on his face as the episode ended. Loved your reaction to the ending, and really loved your reaction to this episode, Jess, it was great. Thank you so much.

Geordie Joe

I like to think Troi has a secret super power. She gain's extra strength during combat situations. Picard: "I have never known Data to tell a lie." Well, there was that time Data lied to Riker when he almost vaporized Kivas Fajo with a Varon-T disruptor in The Most Toys. The weapon discharged and Data said that maybe something happened during transport but we all know he pulled the trigger and he fully intended to kill Fajo. I guess Riker didn't include that incident in his log and decided to let Data off the hook.

Ryan

After an episode that can be best described as an acquired taste, it's marvelous to get one that gets all the love I'm legally allowed to give. It was no surprise to learn it was one of Michael Pillar's personal favorites, because as nicely spelled out by Picard himself, a mystery is irresistible. In fact, it kind of bugs me to this day that we never find out where that Dixon Hill story was going, much as I love that they brought Whoopi in just to be Patrick's straight man for a few minutes, even though she's otherwise not in the episode at all. I fully buy that Guinan would want in on this, however much she doesn't understand it, and she's clearly having a ball with all the little bits of the costume she can work with. And then comes the actual story, which reaches near-Harlan Coben levels of "What the bloody hell does any of this stuff have to do with each other?". I think I've spoken before here of how much that style clicks with my particular kind of autism, so I was all over this. And as it goes on, you start to wonder how the solution can possibly play fair with everything we're seeing, while also not ruining Data's character, and the ending actually pulls that off perfectly. All aided by Brent doing some of his best work ever in the role, with the subtlest eye work conveying everything we need about how much he's struggling with this role he's been forced into, until "Would I lie?" can finally turn to "Fooled you!" (you'll probably be seeing a lot of that from me for a while, because I'm that excited about the sequel) Troi's role doesn't seem to get as much attention from fans, but her description of seeing someone else looking at her from her own face in the mirror has always stuck with me as a profoundly creepy concept, most of all "It was like my face was a mask." Made all the better by how they were smart enough to not try to portray it visually and just keep her offscreen while we're stuck in the hall with Worf, trusting the lines and Marina to get everything across afterwards. And major kudos for how Marina totally changes her physicality to instantly make clear we're not seeing Deanna anymore. I did have a bit of an inappropriate laugh at such a big deal being made of how few people can beat up Worf, as if it didn't happen in almost every episode of the first couple seasons. I'm guessing this was more of Michael Dorn pushing back on that. And I'd fully buy that Troi is strong enough on her own. Oh, and I quite appreciated that even with Keiko not being in the episode, Miles still talks about her and keeps her an active presence. Not many shows back then would go that far.

Thomas Corp
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This one is a really damn good one, so we have the shared thing of really loving this one. Mysteries are indeed irresistible. Shared dismay that we never do get the payoff of the Dixon Hill mystery. I could take more entire episodes of that. Whoopi being Picard’s straight man is fantastic; she clearly had a ball with the scene and the wardrobe. The style of this episode clicking with the autism, the feeling is mutual, yes. They really do quite well with playing fair, without ruining Data’s character, culminating in the terrific payoff of the ending. Brent does well with the Dick Van Patten side glances, though I wish you could have had the soundbite of Rick as Dark Helmet saying, “Fooled you!”, my brother and I love that line delivery. (No worries on in your upcoming comments, their being plenty of Spaceballs, the Subtle References, as there is MASSIVE excitement about the sequel. I take it you have at least one planned to be featured in the next movie reaction.) As I said, Marina does good work in this one, particularly with the shift in character and demeanor. That mirror scene is a disturbing contest. Good note on there was no effect, and it’s just left to the imagination. I’m reminded of The Final Conflict how they planned for a similar mirror effect, but it wasn’t working, so they did the same thing of you just have the actor reacting, Jerry Goldsmith delivers with the music, and your imagination fills in the rest. True about the Worf effect, which yeah, it does feel like Michael’s asking for it to be more concretely established that it shouldn’t be the easiest thing in the world for Worf to lose a fight/be injured. Love how Keiko had the presence without actually appearing. I share O’Brien’s ribbing himself about his not having a green thumb.

Paul Hayes

I really like this episode, and I'm glad you enjoyed it too!