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Thomas Corp

I knew that we’d have plenty to say with the season finale. There was disappointment when Željko’s name was absent from the credits for the first time and it had me saying, “Mile’s not going to be in the episode? No Mile? Ah, damn it.” The flip side of it was relief that he wouldn’t die in the episode. Assuming something didn’t happen to him offscreen. So, there’s the hope that we can see him again. We open with you hating the opening shot of the episode, I expected you would. And yes, I do believe that you have spent a sizable percentage of the season rather annoyed at certain aspects of the proceedings, to which I am sympathetic to that. Mildly annoyed by the Dama’s explanation as to her survival, making me say, “Well... That’s just lazy writing.” You say how you are so done with the Dama. Yeah, well, you know what? I ain’t going to argue with you on that one, Jess. KNEW that when the Dama listed those whom Maggie has lost, that you would have the strongest response to when she brought up Beth. You said that you would scream, please, by all means, I’ll support it. I wouldn’t have begrudged you a scene of Maggie headbutting the bitch. Yeah, even bound, I’d say the odds would be in Maggie’s favor. Seems we have a similar response to Pierce when the New Babylon fuckers showed up. Young man surely flipped like a pancake, as you describe it. Made me say in response, “Like the lady said, “huge fucking pussy”. was she wrong?”, and like you say, hard to blame the guy. The Negan versus Bruegel battle was a big highlight. The niceties between villains are always the more fun. Among other things, you can tell that the villains each rather respect and admire the skill with said niceties, and they enjoy the challenge. As an Aries, I live for it. Negan having the nice apple during the festivities was a hoot. The whole thing shines a light on something: Negan never has stopped being the monster, much though he did try not to be. And redemption is something that he can never fully achieve. He slid back into his old role far too easily. Upon seeing Negan tap into his old Negan energy from a decade ago, you were on my mind the whole time, and your reaction matches exactly what I thought it would be. You can feel Maggie’s, and your own, trauma just violently resurface in rather strong ways upon seeing Negan do the eenie-meenie game. Apparently, yes, the key to snapping out of it some is Maggie coming up behind you to shiv ya. Before that, we get Bruegel suffering a karmic death, and with it the destruction of that damn sneaky blade watch that we both love and live for. Hell of a death scene that he got. We say farewell to Bruegel. I’m going to miss the psychotic fucker. Rather like how we share the sentiment. We both had the strong reaction to Ginny’s death. Lord that got me. And it reinforces Negan’s very familiar and resonant thing of how is it that God keeps giving him second chances and kills everyone else who is far better. I know the feeling too well. Just how his soul plunges upon realizing that he wasn’t there for Ginny in her final moments. That pain’s going to be with him like skin. I know that one too. How Maggie doesn’t say anything when she passes the blade to him, gah that’s heartbreaking. Bringing us to the mother and son drama. I am glad you say about the patience running thin with Hershel and that his ass needs a timeout as I’m reaching my limit too. Rather liked how we both had the disappointed parent look on our faces when Hershel came to talk to his mom. Well, I didn’t have a camera on me, but if I did, I’m fairly certain that my expression matched yours at that point. Certainly, my thoughts about Hershel at this point: It’s like fathers say, “I’m not mad, I’m just disappointed.”. Well, I am BOTH. And same as you, you do largely get where Hershel is coming from. The question of Hershel thinking that Maggie killing Negan will solve everything is how much of that is the Dama talking, and will that outcome of Maggie killing Negan yield the result that Hershel would want? Particularly when she nearly killed him in such a way that she very nearly became the very thing she swears to destroy. And you see it hurt him when Maggie still, STILL, cannot do it. We had a word or two when he shouted at his mom there. I’m not even a dad, and I had a dad moment when Hershel yelled at Maggie, when he cursed, I just instinctively snapped “Language.” at Hershel. Alas, as you observed, it will take much more than a talk at this point. Love the compromise Maggie has of she won’t go with Hershel to join the Dama, but she won’t leave the city either. Speaking of the Dama, lovely to see how she registers the tragic irony, or perhaps poetic justice that is her losing the methane. She got what she wanted. But she lost what she had. What sort of review should we give for her theatre, I wonder? Perlie got the good moment of the rock and recalling the words he was told. That good thing of the past being comfortable. One interpretation. Another one is that the past is not comfortable. It is familiar. And we long for the familiar, because we know it, and can be lulled into the false security of the familiarity of the past rather than be brave enough to enter into the unknown future. All of your post-episode thoughts were some of your very best, Jess. I don’t think I can improve on any of it. I love how you endorsed the thing of Maggie, and how she heals, if she can, from the Negan of it all, how she does it is her decision, her call. And of course it does not align with the Dama’s agenda, nor does it match what Hershel thinks he wants. But it is her choice. I like how you spoke up for her on that. I rather liked how there were only a few scenes between Negan and Maggie this season, and how it showed the dynamic they have at present. There has been a frankness to their scenes this season; the only people who they can be open and honest with that they aren’t able to be with others. And I think that you’re right that Maggie hates that she’s at that point with Negan of all people. There is an uncomfortable epiphany with that. You spoke very well with noting how Maggie is living proof of the monster that Negan was, and in a lot of ways, still is. Contrasting to Negan being one of, if not the most prominent person who most reminds Maggie of who she used to be, and how much happiness she lost. It is the contrast between Maggie now and how she was for example, back in season two, as you highlighted. Much though she has come a long way since Rick spared Negan, she still is not healed. And the trauma will not leave her, Negan knows it, and doesn’t even blame her for not letting it go. As you say, the trauma she endured, it can’t exit her brain, or I would say her soul as well. It’s like there’s a catherine wheel and it’s fallen off the stick and just roams about her mind. It seems like that will be a big crux for her in season three, and there will be a season three, to answer that question. The crux being that she knows she may have started to find the path where she can heal and let go of the trauma. And failing that, the question is, can she live with it? Answers, that I’m sure we’ll get in the next season or beyond. Until then, a fantastic reaction with masterful post-episode thoughts, Jess, and I really cannot thank you enough for both.