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Star Trek: TNG 4x22 Full Reaction! (Patreon)

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2025-09-13 17:00:08
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Star Trek TNG 4×22 Full Reaction

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Ryan

Well, I know Thomas is going to be gushing about this one. And I also got immediately attached as soon as David Ogden Stiers shows up. Watching MASH reruns as a teenager, Charles Emerson Winchester III quickly became my favorite character, how after five seasons of cartoon villain Frank Burns, they had the courage to swap in someone to fill the role of the uptight rival to the fun-loving heroes who also felt like a real human being, with his own very sympathetic qualities that were gradually revealed. It also helped that I was often considered a snob as a kid for preferring books to other forms of entertainment, so all the grief he got for his love of classical music was very identifiable. For such a serious episode, this one starts with the funniest moment of any Lwaxana episode, with Troi's foreboding tone as she simply gives the log entry "My mother is on board" segueing into Picard timidly poking his head into the hall to see if the coast is clear, which of course it isn't. Knew you'd get a big kick out of that one. But from there it takes quite a turn, as the writers were clearly getting tired of her usual schtick and wondered how far they could push her into more dramatic territory. And Stiers makes for an ideal partner in that, fully selling Timicin's surprising interest in her advances. They work so well together that you barely even notice half the episode has gone by and there must be some twist to it coming, and that's when the reveal hits like a ton of bricks. I knew this would get you hard after you've spoken about your own experience with this issue, and I've also brought up here my grandfather who is still with us but sinks further into his own world seemingly every day. So that's the experience I'm coming from when I say I have absolutely zero sympathy for this race, and fuck their cultural beliefs when they cause this much pain. As painful as it is each new time I see my grandfather, I wouldn't ever support a system like this, not least because it would have taken him from us nearly three decades before his issues started. And it's pretty distressing how much sympathy the episode seems to give to them even as a "both sides" thing. Luckily, the personal story of Lwaxana and Timicin is still easily strong enough to carry us through that, and it's since gained a ton more subtext, both short term with Majel's husband Gene Roddenberry passing away very shortly afterward, and longer with Stiers coming out of the closet at age 68 and voicing his regret that keeping it secret for so long had prevented him from ever having a meaningful romantic relationship. Lwaxana's constant flirtations had always been an escape from her sense of her own mortality, and now it will always be a reminder. And I'll turn the floor over to Sulu for what I've recently settled on as my favorite piece of dialogue in all of Star Trek: "I've lost many friends, some heroically, some tragically. The randomness of death is merely a reflection of the unexpected joys we find in life." "So if I spend my life worrying about a meaningless death, I'll never find joy?" "I literally just said that."

Josef Schiltz

It didn't take me long to feel that my own reaction to the Kaelon society would be a middle finger and I would carry on the research with the Federation to benefit other star systems. Some questions are far bigger and more meaningful than some piddling ideations. Of course, this is a retelling of Logan's Run, only Timicin didn't. He gave in to it.

Thomas Corp

Again, the camera set-up is looking good by my estimation, and it’s good to see you say you’re reasonably happy with it, even if you don’t have it just so quite yet. Feel the pain how the OCD was triggered by the camera. Now to the episode. Just seeing the thumbnail alone, I say, “Yup, this is going to be an emotional one, I knew it.” Your statement of “This episode’s throwing me through the wringer.”, and later you say, “Ho-ly. SHIT. This episode.” sounds about right, yeah. You’re in shared company with this one hurting on the personal level. As Ryan correctly surmises, I’m gushing about this one. Another absurdly good episode this week, again, the first few episodes in my lifetime are some of the best. This is not quite one of my chapter and verse episodes, though it is an honorable mention, and it is close to it. It is my favorite Lwaxana episode, for sure. We open with one of the most hysterical openings ever. Marina’s perfect line delivery of Deanna informing us that her mother is on board. Followed by Patrick’s perfect silent acting as Picard unsuccessfully tries to see if the coast was clear. Your laughter at that was just what I expected, and I loved it. Makes for severe whiplash with the episode as a whole. Two weeks in a row that we have a major guest star who just elevates the episode. This week with the great David Ogden Stiers, one of my favorite actors. Prolific character actor of stage and screen who also had quite the successful voice acting career. On the channel, you’ve heard him be delightful in Spirited Away, in addition to you’re undoubtedly familiar with his work with Disney. Cogsworth being probably the most recognized role, though I do have the big soft spot for his work in Pocahontas and Hunchback. And though I’ve not yet seen the live action remake last summer, lots of comments I’ve heard expressed love for his work as Jumba in the original animated film and subsequent projects, which was sweet to hear. Then there’s his biggest claim to fame as Charles on M*A*S*H, my favorite character of my favorite show. A sentiment that I see Ryan shares as well, and it is a sentiment shared by my brother, which was also shared by our dad. Mom being more partial to Margaret, though she does love Charles. They have the cheeky little nod to M*A*S*H with the screens that Dr. Timicin and Geordi and Data are working on, they have the number of 4077 on them. I catch that, chuckle, and compliment, “Nicely done.” We are both rather notoriously picky with the one-episode romances. This is an instance of the shared feeling of very STRONG investment with the romance between Dr. Timicin and Lwaxana, and all the credit to David and Majel. Have to fight a laugh when Lwaxana ponders if Dr. Timicin favors green, and I quip, “I don’t know, he might concur with his old swampmate when it comes to being so sick of green.” It was already making me weep seeing your investment in the romance before we get to the emotional parts of this. Christ, seeing David make you cry, I could have told you that was coming as that man had such power in making the tears flow. Yeah, once the emotional crux is revealed, it just hits you. It’s serious enough that Lwaxana virtually drops all humor. And as Picard notes, the Prime Directive prevents intervention. We both loved the scene that Marina and Majel just wonderfully had. Knew the line about dying before you die would hit you, Jess. The subtext of the scene is fueled by Roddenberry’s failing health, and his death the same year. Just as there’s the resonance that Ryan noted how David came out as gay later in life, so his line of wishing he met Lwaxana years ago, impossible to watch without sobbing.

Thomas Corp

Sobbing is what happened seeing this one again. I realize too that this is my first time seeing this episode following David’s death, and there is the greater sadness. Rather vividly remember when he died. My dad called me up to let me know, and it was very saddening. This is also my first time seeing this episode following my dad’s death at the age of sixty-two, four years ago as of this past July. Lwaxana says about what is sixty, she’s not wrong. And it would be Dad’s birthday in less than a month, coincidentally, Dad and David share the birthday month. You made the mention of hoping to still be hearty and hale at sixty. I’d hope for the same, though the genetic crapshoot that I have does have the strong possibility I might not get that. Or I might get that. Time will tell. Leads to the debates of the resolution. You speak well of how there is the attempt to present it without strictly speaking taking a side. Sympathy is hard to find past a point as Ryan said, and I see that Josef says that he would have the middle finger response. You wonder how bad it was before the resolution. And there are the parts that, on paper, aren’t necessarily the cruelest things ever, or at the least the intent isn’t. How it’s mentioned about sparing children the burden of caring for ailing parents, and the horrors of that. Not exactly a terrible thought. Except for the fact that some of us have that burden thrust on us when we’re only thirteen years old, and our dad was younger than David was when he filmed this episode. And yes, there were the years, moments of hell, taking care of Dad during covid lockdowns being prominent, and Mom had a health scare the beginning of that too. Another moment that I can’t fault is how Dr. Timicin mentions wanting his family to remember him the way he is before he could conceivably become a shell of a man. It is akin to how it was planned to have a goodbye dinner with Dad before the hospice drugs became too strong, though we never got the chance. But as Ryan mentions with his own experience, a system such as this takes time away from people, and though the pain of that time was strong, those last months, especially, you wouldn’t trade it. Love how Picard does try to help Dr. Timicin when he seeks asylum, and a joy to see the two actors share scenes. The greater inability to sympathize comes when the people on the planet refuse to relent. It gets rather troubling when the response from the minister of the planet is to ask Dr. Timicin if he’s being coerced into his decision. It has some deeply uncomfortable subtext. Sure, maybe they don’t go so far as to say to Dr. Timicin that the Federation, “They’re not like you and me, which means they must be evil!” but they get within the neighborhood of that, and it becomes unsettling. And you also ponder how Dr. Timicin already devoted so much to save the planet. You ponder the question of what is his, what is his sacrifice? He burned himself for someone else’s future, he burned his LIFE to make a sunrise that he knows he’ll never get to see. And all knowing that he’d never have a, a mirror, or an audience, or, or the light of gratitude. He already sacrificed EVERYTHING. And it becomes more complicated when he hears the plea from his daughter, who yes, I figured you’d recognize dear Michelle Forbes. In the end, he’s not brave enough to reject the tradition. Love his and Picard’s final scene, and I adore how Lwaxana goes to be with Dr. Timicin in the end, your reaction to that being everything, Jess. And you know, as Ryan so perfectly referenced, for Lwaxana, her constant flirtations had always been a refuge, and now they will always be a reminder. My addition to that perfect reference is to say that you know that this will sit with Picard, and following the last scene, he’s likely off to his quarters to play his music for solace. Probably put on Mozart’s Clarinet Quintet. At some point, he’ll talk with Deanna, and you know damn well that he’ll have some rather melancholic talks with Beverly about the events of the episode over morning tea. Alas, we won’t get to see that, but this is exactly what fanfiction and the expanded universe novels and tie-ins are for. Beyond a perfect reaction from you, Jess, and I so adored and appreciated your words on this one. Thank you so, so very much.

Geordie Joe

Loved your reaction to this episode, Jess. I had a feeling there would be a few tears during this one. Half a Life is an excellent episode that covers a heavy and thought-provoking topic. It's nice to see Lwaxana Troi getting some serious character development here, rather than her just being portrayed as a comic relief character. Majel Barrett and David Ogden Stiers both do an outstanding job in this episode. The actress playing Timicin's daughter impressed the show's crew with her acting so much they brought her back to play Ensign Ro. There is an 89-year-old woman currently doing a Skyrim let's play series on YouTube, so who knows, maybe we'll still be here watching your reactions to various TV shows and movies in 2048 if it's something that you're still interested in doing by then. Who knows what the future holds?

Thomas Corp
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Rather figured we’d have a consensus view that one, this one is an emotional one, and two, that Jess would go through it watching it. Very heavy topic that the show tackled. Lovely to see Majel demonstrate the range with Lwaxana, and she and David did very marvelous work in this one. It is nice how Michelle impressed the creative team with her skill that they got her back for Ro. More on that one later. Sounds amazing about the Skyrim videos. I don’t even really know Skyrim, and it sounds amazing. Provided it is something Jess would still wish to do, I’d be in support of 2048, and she’s still at it. I’d be in my late fifties by then with the beard and what’s left of my hair having gone all grey or white. Well, more likely just the beard, anyway. Like you say, who knows what the future holds?

Preaching to the Horse's Mouth

One of my favourite episodes that's not one of the "big" ones. I adore Lwaxanna and both MBR and our guest star knocked this one out of the park.