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The Sandman 1x08 Full Reaction! (Patreon)

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2023-09-21 12:45:00
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Ryan

Perhaps the part I was most looking forward to in all of this was your meeting Martin Tenbones, after your response to Man Thing in Werewolf By Night. It's such a delightfully unexpected reveal that Barbie's dream world is this epic ongoing fantasy story with a giant bear/sloth thing as her loyal sidekick (and meanwhile, Ken just gets the cliched naked in public stuff, after showing himself to be a bit of a jerk with his reluctance to help out with Jed). The whole dreamwalking sequence was something that had always seemed like the kind of thing that couldn't possibly work in any other medium than a comic book, so seeing it brought to life so well here was wonderful. The rest of the episode is mostly just cleanup duty, positioning the characters to where the story's second half needs them, but at least it's still pretty engaging and unpredictable in its own right, even getting you kind of rooting for the Corinthian with the particular people he's after this time.

Thomas Corp

It is interesting how, as you said, and I concur, last episode felt less self-contained, and more serialized. Here, this episode feels like it’s sliding back into self-contained, but keeping the serialized format to a lesser extent. Another solid episode. A highlight, as you observed, was the nature of dreams, and how they can serve as an escape for us. Unfortunately, I can’t exactly relate, as I never remember my dreams. Save for when I wake up with the feeling that I’ve been visited by someone such as my dad or my grandparents for instance. And even then, I don’t remember what exactly transpired, just that I saw them. I wish I could remember sometimes. Then again, it is as you describe, that shows and films can serve much the same purpose. Books, especially, the escape you attain from a good book is most wonderful at times. You also mention how nightmares can affect us for the better too, especially for sufferers of anxiety, as you and I are. One problem I’d have even if I could remember my nightmares, is that a lifetime of being a lover of villains and the Dark Side in stories, makes it hard to imagine what would scare me in nightmares, short of existential dread that is. The dreams here were most creative, especially Barbie’s with Martin Tenbones, delightfully voiced by Lenny Henry. I share your love of how Gault tried to provide Jed with the escape. And I loved her desire to be more than just a nightmare. It recalls a poem by Chuang Tzu I believe it was, “I dreamed I was a butterfly, flitting around in the sky; then I awoke. Now I wonder: Am I a man who dreamt of being a butterfly, or am I a butterfly dreaming that I am a man?” I love how Gault calls out Morpheus, and I had a moment of calling him out too in that it seems he’s contradicting himself. He told John people needed dreams to live, but now he’s he’s telling Gault that it was wrong for Jed to be permanetnly in the dream realm. And though there is truth to the harm in that, it begged the question that I asked, “So, which is it? Is it that dreams are harmful? Or is it perpetual sleep is harmful? Because there is a difference. Or is it hubris on your part? That someone other than you tries to create dreams, does that trouble you?” Your reactions to Gault calling Morpheus out was great. Likewise, I knew you’d comment on Morpheus being unkind to Lucienne. Me, I went off on a wee tangent on that one. Jed being a victim of the couple was deeply unsettling. Concerning the Corinthian, i loved your apprehension as he went after Rose and then Jed. Thankfully, we have the nice moment of Matthew causing the Corinthian to “Bibbidi-bobbidi-back away” as you rather delightfully put it. I’m sick in wanting to see how the Crointhian “killed the fuck out of the couple” as you described. Yeah, I knew when Jed’s in the talons of the Corinthian, you would NOT be ok with that. I laugh too in that when the Corinthian is driving and he has the radio on, I heard the radio was playing the Big Bad Wolf, thus the comparison is made of the song with the Corinthian, I got a touch upset, saying, “Uh, excuse me, David Thewlis is the Big Bad Wolf! Show some goddamn respect!” I suppose part of that is motivated by my holding out hope that we’ll see David return in this or a subsequent season. Doubtlessly a futile hope though it is. I’m also holding onto hoping that Disney fulfils my one fancast and they cast David as a certain Star Wars character. One who is famous for being both tragic and wise to the point he has passed into legend, albeit one that the Jedi won’t tell. In any event, as I said, a solid episode, resulting in another marvelous reaction from you, Jess, thanks.

Thomas Corp
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The contrast between Barbie and Ken and their dreams can be summed up thusly: It’s Barbie, she’s everything. Ken, he’s just Ken. That was a tagline for that movie, yes? I could see the dreamwalking sequence working well in animation, particularly since it is a medium that allows greater creativity than live action could provide at times. It does work well here though. Like you say, most of the episode positions the pieces to be in place for whatever it is we’re building toward, yet the episode remains engaging. Not sure I’m rooting for the Corinthian, though I was on board with his murder of the couple. Rooting for the Corinthian is one thing. Being fully invested in the idea of him doing whatever the fuck he did to the piece of shit couple, that’s something else; something I got behind, though like I said, I wish we could have seen it.

Ryan
>>118046356

That poem is actually quoted later on in the comic, so we’ll probably see it if the show gets that far.

Thomas Corp
>>118046356

Oh, it is? Oh, ok, I did not know that. It just popped into my mind whilst thinking of the themes of the episode. That’s an amusing coincidence.