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Tales of the TARDIS "The Mind Robber" Full Reaction! (Patreon)

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2023-11-23 14:45:00
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Ryan

RTD has confirmed that these are full canon, which means Jamie and Zoe really do have their memories back for good now. And I love how he was able to play fair with how their story ended while still showing how it didn't mean their time with the Doctor was meaningless afterwards. The mention of Victoria is a nod to how Deborah Watling died of cancer in 2017 so couldn't be part of this, though she did live just long enough to see the announcement of Jodie Whittaker's casting after she'd often complained about the lack of women on the show's crew during her time. It's also rather amusing to see Jamie back now that hearing an old-time highlander with that name inevitably brings Outlander to mind, though the books' author has sworn up and down she didn't deliberately name her character after this one.

Josef Schiltz

Oh Jess, I know how you feel. I had to look after my mother for many years and she had dementia. It was very taxing, upsetting and exhausting experience and that endured for thirty years as hers started onset really early and accentuated all her worst characteristics, especially when she attempted to be authoritarian - as many of her generation thought best to be. My grandmother had the balance right and I had to be 'grandmother' - without the respect! Mother's chief trait was to barrel her way through, no matter what the obstacle - including me!! it was wonderful seeing these two again. I had a huge crush on Wendy Padbury back in the 60s, still do in a way. She's a sweetie!

Thomas Corp

Again, though I don’t have access to this show, I wish to see your beyond lovely reaction. I knew you’d love seeing Jamie and Zoe again, great to see Frazer and Wendy play them again. Boy does it get you when they show Two’s recorder. Given past comments you made, especially concerning your grandfather, it makes complete sense how this hit home for you, and made you cry as it did. I can’t say I’ve gone through that specific experience; other family members have. That said, the last few years of my grandfather on my mom’s side’s life, his mind slowly declined. And with my dad, though I was a primary caregiver for the better part of seventeen years, that was more physical care. Then again, the hospice drugs did seem to affect his mind some, which is why we wanted to have one last dinner before it got too bad, but he died before it could happen. I’m sorry the episode got to you bad when you had a full day of filming after the special. This was a terrific reaction, Jess.

Josef Schiltz
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I am saddened that you didn't get to have that get-together with your father. My own father died in hospital and I still remember vividly standing next to my mother, looking up at her when she received the news over our post office phone. I still have that 'haunted telephone'. As for my mother, decades later, the care home rang me at night to tell me that she had - according to a doctor - only a few hours. The home didn't even tell me she was ill with Noro virus! For those years of which I have spoken, I certainly felt i was within my own 'confession dial' and had passed several billion years of life in a temporal loop. It's taken ten years to expunge the loop from my head. Habits of caring for others get so ingrained that sometimes you lose the competences needed to care for yourself and those have to be relearnt.

Thomas Corp
>>122880334

Yeah, I recall you’ve spoken about the loss of your father when you were young. It was a similar thing I went through of Dad died in the nursing home where he was for the hospice care, the phone rang about quarter past three in the morning, and I knew what the news about Dad was going to be before I even heard it. The planned get-together/farewell dinner was planned when the doctors projected that stopping the normal treatment which was doing more harm than good, Dad had about three weeks, a month if we were lucky, which we weren’t. He didn’t even have a full week in hospice. In all fairness, they probably underestimated Dad’s condition, besides which, the estimate is predicated on intellectual surmise rather than ironclad fact. I’m still in my own confession dial, and I’m still trying to recover and relearn my own competences needed to care for myself.

Josef Schiltz
>>122880334

The latter isn't an easy one to accomplish, however, you had the tenacity to get through the caring phase. I tend to believe that if you coped and survived through all that, then those competences needed to reinstill care for yourself will return. Psychologically, it's called 'executive function', the capacity to carry out planning, and enacting, day-to-day tasks from the most simple to the complex and that capacity, understandably, just gets worn fabric thin until you completely wear out. Substantial rest and a very gradual build up to strength seems to pay off and learning to say no helps as well and people need to understand why. The DWP were socially illiterate when it came to that and it took intervention from a cousin and a sit around a table to iron things out. Thing is, that people really don't realize the deteriorative state that carers can get into. I read an article today of a woman who has been a carer for thirty years because her mother had a brain haemorrhage when she herself was eleven and she has carried on with that ever since! It is a scandal that sacrifice isn't more acknowledged. Instead, it is treated like nothing that a carer is living two lives, primarily the one that is being cared for!

Thomas Corp
>>122880334

Right, if one had the tenacity to get through and endure the caring phase, they can reinstill care for oneself. It does take a long time it feels like. Rest never seems to go well anymore, but I take it when I can. And yes, saying “no” helps tremendously. I know Jess has said, and I’m in complete agreement with her, she wishes there was more normalization to saying “no”; that there’s less of a stigma attached to it. The deteriorative state that carers can get into is something lots of people fail and/or refuse to realize. That really needs to change.

Josef Schiltz
>>122880334

Mm. Chiefly the problems stem from those that will accuse you of "still living with your parents!" - when it is you who has taken on the role of being 'parent' and, extra to that, maybe to someone who is very resistant to complying with that switch. An adult who is strongly used to self-determinative action is not going to accept direction easily. I had awful trouble with that! it was "my house and what I say goes!" and even with the disastrous decisions that she made, she still didn't grasp that she was the one who cocked things up! A renovation back in '93 went badly wrong because of that when she told all the builders halfway through the work to sod off because one builder's wife who briefly visited her husband looked at Mum in the wrong way! She thought that i could finish off the work!! Her house! Her rules! Her mistake! She acted like a petulant three-year-old! i take my Theanine Serene and Magnesium Threonate and that seems to work well with sleep. Sometimes I will put on a philosophy talk and I will doze off with it on a loop. Dennett seems to work well. Thankfully I can do that with living by myself. Nobody else to disturb and I'll just drift off surrounded by my books.