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Star Trek: TNG 1x20 Full Reaction! (Patreon)

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Ryan

Sometimes I really wonder what it was like to watch this season back in 1987, just being flatly presented with a member of the original show's most villainous species as a major crew member, and getting absolutely no explanation until now. In fact, it seems like this backstory for Worf wasn't actually developed much until it came time to write this one, given how several earlier episodes show him being totally unfamiliar with some aspect of human culture. But for what we get now, it works great. Roddenberry had always regretted painting the Klingons as so monolithically evil, feeling it went against his vision of a progressive, inclusive future, and this was his chance to fix that. It's a shame he ended up not being able to personally be there to send it over the finish line, but at least he was still alive to see this episode and how the next couple seasons built on it.

Thomas Corp

“Let’s go Worf episode.” indeed. Yeah, this was a good one. I first want to talk about the big Geordi scene, which I knew you’d adore. It is a great moment seeing how Geordi sees the world. LeVar sold the emotions so well, especially his moment of being, “Sorry you have basic bitch sight.” as you delightfully put it. The reactions you had to that sequence were as lovely as I knew they would be, Jess. I also loved how you changed your tune real quick when they said it would likely be a trap and you got so protective of Geordi. Your love of Geordi is beautiful to behold. Now onto the main plot. It’s interesting revisiting this following rewatching Undiscovered Country as this episode predates that, the end of the Cold War, and even the fall of the Berlin Wall as a matter of fact. Thus, this was our first real glimpse into what happened to the Klingon empire. Fantastic to get our first showing of Worf’s backstory, and to allow Michael to show us what a marvelous actor he is. The whole central conflict is a most intriguing one. It got me in the heart seeing and hearing you express loving so much the final confrontation between Worf and Korris. And just throughout this episode, Jess, I loved you being Worf’s hype squad. As you observed, Tasha had the great moment with the potential hostage situation, where she announces that is how they are perceiving it, and how it shows Tasha’s professionalism. I so love it when you express the Tasha appreciation. It also shows how she and the rest of the crew’s knowledge of Klingon culture is still a bit spotty, leading Worf to explain some of it. Or such as when Data explains to Picard about the Klingon death ritual, and Picard recognizes it’s perfectly normal for Klingons. Jarring for us, normal for them, and Worf’s lung capacity is mighty impressive, yes. Other highlights of the reaction. Your adorable reaction to seeing the old turtle with a top hat (I still get more of a derby hat vibe myself.) look that the Klingon vessels have once again. I saw it, said, “Hup! There it is. Jess will love that.” I enjoyed your reactions to the poor redshirts (who weren’t even wearing red) and their leaning maneuver. And then there was your face when you said “clung onto” that was a pure look of, “I heard it as soon as I said it. No pun intended, goddamn it.” I am pleased to see that the delivery of the package that you were expecting did not disrupt your filming, or at least this reaction. I hate that when you’re waiting for a delivery or a package, especially when the window of time offered is unhelpful. That happens to me, I don’t want to do anything for fear of I’ll start something, get invested in it or at least get set into a rhythm, then I get interrupted, it throws things off, and sets my brain into a bit of a spiral. Thus, I would have empathized heavily with you if your filming was interrupted in this reaction, which again, thankfully, was not. I also wish to say that that looked like a nice and comfortable warm fuzzy sweater you were wearing in this reaction. I imagine I have seen it before in a previous reaction. It looked nice, like I said, looked comfortable, warm, and fuzzy. Thank you, so, so much for this most outstanding reaction, Jess.

Thomas Corp
>>126315053

Yeah, it would have been something to see this without the subsequent Trek material as it aired. Particularly as this aired, I believe it’s over three years before Undiscovered Country where audiences first learn what we learned there, not to mention, like I commented, the Cold War was still ongoing at the time of this airing. Yeah, Worf’s unfamiliarity with Earth culture is one of those first season inconsistencies that show they didn’t have his backstory planned right away, which again, I give it a pass due to first season, they’re still figuring out the characters and lore. It is nice that Roddenberry was able to rectify the portrayal of the Klingons and was able to live to see the change put into effect. Shame we’re still stuck with the big thing about women being captains at the end of the original series, though we do have the subsequent captains like Janeway, and I’ve heard even Roddenberry mellowed some and expressed some regret over that episode.

Ian Smith

This is another leading contender for 'Ian's favourite Season One episode '. I love the power, the pacing, the character moments, the action. It solidly ticks all the boxes; and that Finale with Worf performing the death scream - what an excellent directorial moment. (Rob Bowmen cut his teeth on TNG; and would go on to direct the first X Files movie)

Ryan
>>126319967

Just too bad that now it’s impossible to not shout “MENDOZAAAA!”

Ryan
>>126315053

And then Enterprise just casually shows female captains in the 22nd century, so now it’s pretty much official canon that Lester flunked out on her own merits and made up the rule in her sick mind, and by the time of the episode Kirk has just given up trying to correct her.

Josef Schiltz
>>126319250

Mm. I know what you mean about package delivery. The executive function's capacity for dealing with the day events narrows upon that one event and if it isn't localized efficiently within an hour then that's a day hogged up by just five minutes.

Josef Schiltz

Picard: Can you filter out the extraneous information? La Forge: No, I get it all simultaneously. Picard: How can you make head or tail of it? La Forge: I select what I want and then disregard the rest. Picard: But how is that possible? La Forge: Well, how, in a noisy room, can you select one specific voice or sound? Picard: Of course, something you learn. La Forge: Exactly. Now, this is interesting. What Geordi says here about selecting in a noisy room is akin to the problem that autistic people have in that we get an information crowd due to sensory sensitivity so that our brains are constantly having to deal with heavy analysis to block out extraneous information. We don't select so easily. in a way, we have to deal with social situations especially in a constant translation mode. In a way it's also similar also to The Doctor and Bad Wolf Rose. Rose: I can see everything. All that is, all that was, all that ever could be. Nine: That's what I see. All the time. And doesn't it drive you mad? Rose: My head . . . It's killing me! Rose is being killed by the information traffic that's cramming itself into her head, given by the link with the TARDIS. Suddenly, the inability to localize information is something that she cannot handle and she cannot be selective. Autists have just such a selection problem. Picard is right in his realization that it is something that is learnt, like an autist has to, who has been downloaded an expensive to run and extremely complex neurology that didn't come with an individualized manual and the press-play button. With us, as autists, that constant analysis in order to have a structured sense of the world, and of situations of the people around us, plus the social demands made upon us in day-to-day life, is exhausting and also why we are prone to meltdowns. It is also why many of us have problems with the social mechanism of eye contact. We get overloaded and have to look away for brief respite and sometimes we have to look at the middle of the forehead to maintain the illusion of eye contact. That moment of connection between Geordi and Jean-Luc had me in tears. What a beautiful scene.

Thomas Corp
>>126642578

Yeah, that scene where Geordi describes the simultaneous information that his visor picks up, is most similar to what someone on the autism spectrum goes through. Like you said, we get overwhelmed by our minds absorbing everything all at once. It leaves us having to filter and sift through all that information to determine what is or is not needed in any given situation. Sometimes, it does lend itself to great attention to detail, other times it is a tremendous pain in the ass. Like Monk famously says, “It’s a gift... And a curse.” The selection problem is a Herculean effort even at the best of times. It is great how Picard realizes how difficult such a thing would be, and how the skill is something one must learn over a long time with great discipline. An individualized manual and the press-play button reads like stereo instructions by itself, throwing in an expensive to run and extremely complex neurology on top of that makes it much harder to understand. I’ve found myself comfortable with people I love and/or am close to who know and understand enough to not take offense if eye contact is not maintained. That is a hell of a scene Picard and Geordi had.

Josef Schiltz
>>126642578

It is many years since I first saw that scene. It still impresses me today. I recently heard that our autistic brains, with their complexity, take a massive eight times more energy to run that is typical. If that is indeed the case, then it's no wonder we run out of endurance fuel fast! Our brains light up on a neurological scan in a light display not dissimilar to what Geordi sees through his visor.

Thomas Corp
>>126642578

The scene holds up exceptionally well. Right, our brains run on much more potent energy than what is considered normal. The body only has so much capability to process, hence our proclivity to burn ourselves out fairly quickly, even under the best of circumstances. The energy display would resemble Geordi’s visor display. They should show the scene in schools; it would make for an excellent teaching tool.

Gerald Walker
>>126315053

My friends and i watched this in 87. I was seventeen at the time and a huge Trekker. This was our favorite episode of the series just because we finally got more backstory on Worf

Josef Schiltz
>>126642578

It may and, then again, it may not. In the end we are talking about information that is going into a very chaotic environment. Anthropochaos is always a tricky environment to put any information into of course and it would have to be contextualized with very carefully explained information about the autistic condition. As we know, in an Anthropochaotic environment, bullying is done with very little provocation. We can make these comparisons from our viewpoint due to our familiarity with the subject, placing it in it's proper proportion as a useful analogy within the context of our own knowledge and experience. Probably the familiarity with the bullying aspect as well! Of course, Picard helps in his reaction and the way that the crew respect Geordi may have some reflective impact and children might take that on board especially since the scene is so well acted. As with any information in the human environment, it all depends what people do with it. As Counsellor Troi might say, "Interesting!".