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What If 2x05 Full Reaction! (Patreon)

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Ryan

First of all, how dare you Natasha, Robocop is way more than "solid." Add in her apparent dislike of Empire Strikes Back, and Peggy seriously needs a new pop culture guide. The best thing here, besides getting to see sexist assholes lose their minds like the Toymaker got to them, is that after the first season's Captain Carter episode got so many complaints about just being First Avenger with the names switched around, here there's a real attempt to do something more than just Winter Soldier over again. And more than just the first Avengers too, as apparently the presence of a big famous female hero got Hank Pym to get over himself and let Hope become the new Wasp in time for the Chitauri invasion. It's also great to see they remembered that Bucky would just continue having a normal life and aging after Peggy saved him on the train, and it's lovely to see he's still looking out for the little guy in the present (and may I point out that if Bucky was the same age as Sebastian Stan in First Avenger, he's 98 in 2014, and still getting this stuff done). Plus, with him and Steve having taken out Hydra for good, that means Rumlow is one of the good guys, and Frank Grillo must have loved getting to play a hero in the MCU for once. Then we get to the second half, and that reaction to Melina is exactly why we didn't want you reading the credits (and a bit of a tangent, how cool is it that both lead stars of The Mummy are Oscar winners now?). It never quite sat well with me how easily she and Alexei get off for what they did to Natasha and Yelena, and it wasn't at all a surprise that they didn't get any kind of redemption in the original script, so seeing a pure evil version here makes up for that quite a bit. Setting the whole climax in a town full of nightmares as Leslie Jones in Ghostbusters would put it is an awesome choice that really helps the story stand out. As for the ending, without any spoilers I'll just say it's not QUITE out of nowhere if you know the comics, as this setting is based on an Elseworld story by Neil Gaiman. And bless Jeffrey Wright being able to transition immediately from his usual portentous narration into pure bafflement, maybe the biggest laugh of the whole season for me. Season 3 is apparently coming much sooner than this one, and Uatu saying her story still isn't over definitely indicates it'll have another Captain Carter episode, presumably based on Civil War which should really let them cut loose with how things are different. And this time just let Peggy and Natasha kiss, you cowards.

Thomas Corp

Nice to hear the Captain Carter episode of the first season was your favorite of said season. As the first Captain America film is one of my absolute favorites of the MCU, I’ll stand behind your opinion, though my own personal favorite of the first season was the Twilight Zone/Heaven Sent/Revenge of the Sith style Doctor Strange episode. Thus, this episode, I loved the continuation of the previous Captain Carter episode, particularly as it feels like her own Winter Soldier type plot, without feeling like a straight carbon copy of Winter Soldier, which is another MCU film that I most enjoyed. Yeah, the heartstrings were pulled with this one. When you said, “Oh, we’re pulling on the heartstrings today! That’s what we’re doing.” I replied, “Well, not quite Kali Ma, Shakti de level pulling at the heartstrings, but yes, your statement is an accurate one.” Every time your heartstrings were given a tug, you got me right in the heart, on top of the emotions I originally felt whilst watching. It is emotional seeing Bucky as an old man making his own plea to Steve. To talk about what I KNEW would be a major highlight for you, the appearance of the lovely and wonderful Rachel Weisz, whose name was in the credits, thus making it lovely that you looked away from those, preserving the great moment of the reaction when you see Melina and find her being in this to be a surprise to be sure, but a welcome one. I was most receptive to Rachel in this as well. I love her in anything, and seeing her role in this, I said, “Melina oversees the Red Room in this universe. Well, goddamn! We got Rachel as a straight-up old school Bond villain! Can we get more of this? I’ll take more of this, pretty please, with sugar on top.” And yes, I say that knowing she’s married to Daniel Craig; shame we have yet to actually get her as a Bond villain, especially as she would have made a much more memorable primary Bond villain than the primary Bond villains in both Quantum of Solace and No Time to Die. I find myself a wicked sort whenever I see someone trying to resist rooting for the villain. Your expression of desire to root for Melina, then trying to temper that had me saying, “You want this. Don’t you? Give in to the feeling.” It tears your heart out when Steve makes the sacrifice that he does. I’m grateful that whilst doing so, he didn’t say “Superman”, that would have induced severe sobbing. The ending is a bit of a surprise complete with Jeffrey selling Uatu’s bafflement of what happened. I saw the scarlet magic, it clicked, and I said, “Oh yeah. Her name was in the credits, forgot about that.” To talk about your opinions of the Black Widow film. I hear you on really loving that. When I saw it in the theater, (Due to the pandemic, it was the first movie I saw in the theater after my third time seeing The Rise of Skywalker in theaters as a matter of fact.) it was such a beyond effective distraction from the soul crushing grief I was feeling when that came out, and the following month, I loved it even more sharing it with you, Jess, and I so adored your own reaction, seeing how much you loved it. You say it might not be a popular opinion, I say then if so, it’s one I share. I stand behind your love of that film, Jess. And I greatly appreciate today’s reaction to this lovely episode, it was very lovely.

Thomas Corp
>>127038585

The original RoboCop is definitely more than solid. Peggy and Natasha should make it a Verhoven double-feature with RoboCop and then Total Recall. God, my brother and I love Total Recall. I’d be more concerned if Peggy’s opinion of Return of the Jedi skews toward the negative. (Same with Revenge of the Sith, but let’s focus on the original trilogy first.) Either way, yeah, she needs the pop-culture crash course. I didn’t necessarily strictly speaking mind the first Captain Carter episode playing it safe as it was our introduction to the basic concept to the overall show. However, yes, it is great that this episode does much more. Good to see Bucky staying spry for his age. Though when it comes to The Mummy, my preference is the ‘32 version starring Boris, it is great that Rachel and Brendan are now both Oscar winners. I originally thought Rachel was going to be the primary villain of Black Widow, so come this episode, I LOVED seeing this old-school Bond villain variant of Melina. That town is indeed the stuff of nightmares. I’ve not read the source material, but I know Gaiman’s being the author of said source material. With that in mind, I figured you’d clock what was up with the ending of this episode. Yeah, Jeffrey’s shift mid-line was hilarious. Sort of like in The Grand Budapest Hotel when Ralph has the one scene where he flawlessly switches from the flowery poetic prose, to screaming, “HOLY SHIT!!! YOU GOT HIM!!!” A Captain Carter Civil War episode would be grand. As to the comment about the cowards finally letting Peggy and Natasha kiss in that, though I would not consider myself a Peggy/Natasha shipper, still, I read that part of your comment, and I said, “Well, I don’t hate the idea. I wouldn’t be averse to it if it happened. It’s not a bad idea.” We shall see if it happens.

Ryan
>>127038585

No one can tell me the writers aren't deliberately playing it up with stuff like Peggy calling Natasha "Lovely," and Lake Bell giving the exact same performance as her Poison Ivy just makes it even more obvious.

Ryan
>>127048282

Have you seen Weisz' Dead Ringers series? I haven't gotten the guts yet, since the original film completely kicked my ass and the idea of six hours of that is just terrifying, but it got a ton of great reviews. I like to describe both Black Widow and Quantumania as "I saw it before anyone could tell me I was supposed to hate it, so now I'm stuck having the wrong opinion."

Thomas Corp
>>127048282

I’ve not seen the Dead Ringers series. I have to remind myself every time I see the title that it’s not the film Dead Ringer with Bette Davis. I would love to see the series for Rachel if nothing else. Same here with seeing Black Widow and Quantumania before I heard opinions on being I was “Supposed to hate it.” Quantumania, I admit I had my issues with, but I still largely had a good time seeing it. I still don’t understand why everyone got so vehemently angry with it. Black Widow, would probably be in the neighborhood of top ten favorite films of the MCU thus far. I loved it, and was surprised it got a more lukewarm response.

Thomas Corp
>>127038585

Yeah, the subtext is definitely there, and both Hayley and Lake sound like they are heavily leaning into it. Hence, like I said, if it happens, I would not be opposed to that.

Alvin Cura

I love Rachel Weisz too, but I think that for me the big treat was that they actually got Lizzie Olsen even if for only a sentence.