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Classic Who "Meglos" Parts 3&4 EARLY Early Access! (Patreon)

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Josef Schiltz

I guarantee that Jess is going to yell at Bill Fraser - Grugger - in this episode. Oh, there is this marvellous close-up photo of Tom Baker as Meglos and with all this wonderfully applied make-up job which he patiently sat through. The thing is though, that the hands are just gloves and the photo shows that very clearly as you can see right up his sleeves! When my colleague and I met up with JNT in the production office for an interview for our underground mag a short while after the Doctor Who Monthly printed that photo on their cover, JNT stated that he was miffed!! Did Jess yell at Bill Fraser? Of course she did! Bill Fraser actually stated "As long as I get to kick K9!" . . . What was that explosion? I think Bill provoked Jess's ire!

James Fish

Thanks for a wonderful reaction. The highlight for me in this was also undoubtedly seeing Jackie Hill, I thought she gave a wonderful performance. I thought the story was a bit on the weird side, unless I missed something, there seemed to be no explanation of how that guy was taken from 20th Century Earth. Maybe the Target novelisation which I haven't read, expands on that. It's funny that you often mention how people say to you You're going to love this or love this companion more than those ones etc. Personally I would never seek to presume anybodie's tastes for various aspects of Classic Who or anything else. People have a right to make up their own minds. I think it stems from passion about what they love, but we should never seek to impose that on anyone. I know a lot of people who have the somewhat annoying trait of thinking that just because they love or hate something, everybody else should feel the same way. My Dad's a bit like that lol! I'm more realistic in realising it doesn't always follow suit. Companion-wise, it's always going to be Sarah Jane for me, closely followed by Jamie, but I think they're mostly all wonderful in their own right. One or two got a bit on my nerves at times but I never truly disliked any of them! See you next time!

Thomas Corp
>>126801060

I confess to not having the strongest familiarity with this story, so when I read your comment, I said, “Jess is going to be livid with something Bill Fraser does. And what did he do exactly?” Then I see you mention him kicking K-9, to which I said with complete sympathy and understanding, “...Oh.”

Thomas Corp
>>126820663

In terms of Classic Who, Ian and Barbara are my favorite companions. New Who, and probably all of Doctor Who, my favorite companion is Clara, though I do REALLY LOVE River, though she is not strictly speaking a companion, at least not in the usual meaning of the word. There are occasions where I say to people, the whole, “Oh, you are going to LOVE this character!” type statement. But when I do that, I usually say it when I have a good sense of the person that I’m saying it to and/or if they ask in advance. I usually try not to project my own feelings on someone concerning a character. “Usually” being the operative word. And like you said, you try not to presume anybody’s tastes, and let them form their own preferences and/or favorites. Like with Rebels, I went in if not knowing, I had a pretty good idea that Jess would love all the leads in that. Which one would be her favorite, was the part I wished to let Jess discover for herself. Or like with Kallus where you can’t hype him up because that steers into spoiler territory. Though I strongly suspected that Jess would love his arc, I kept quiet so as to see her investment in the character play out organically.

James Fish
>>126820663

There's certainly a great deal to like about Ian and Barbara and I admire them as companions hugely. Yes, I feel Clara was my favourite of New Who - although reading online posts, it would seem she may not be a popular choice. Fun fact, that I worked with her (Jenna Coleman's) cousin for many years - he was just as bossy as her lol & there was for sure a strong resemblance. River Song is great, was very surprised to learn the actor was in one of the early seasons of Grange Hill as a bully when I started collecting the DVD's (UK School Drama in case you're unfamiliar with it)! I get where you're coming from in that if you feel you know the person, you may be able to tell what they're likely going to like but I won't even do that. I used to be like that until the time I sung the praises of something to someone I thought would love whatever it was I was 'selling' & remember feeling mortified when, after checking it out, they told me they thought it was a load of rubbish. I don't know whether they genuinely disliked it or was playing Devils Advocate to deliberately dampen my 'overbearing' enthusiasm for whatever it was, but it taught me just to keep sthum lol! I mean, I'm always willing to say I love this or that and it may be worth someone's while checking it out, but I've completely quit saying 'you're going to love this' no matter how well I think I know someone because of that situation. Guess it kind of put me off lol!

Josef Schiltz
>>126801060

I remember reading that at the time - or a little while after - that was Bill Fraser's expressed intent.

Thomas Corp
>>126820663

It does seem like Clara is somewhat divisive amongst the Whovian fandom. I love her. That’s neat about you working with Jenna Coleman’s cousin. I get your reasons for keeping shtum concerning what people will or will not like. I also am more than willing to recommend stuff by saying that I really loved a certain film or show, and depending on whom I’m speaking to, if it’s a genre and/or type of film or show that they generally gravitate toward, I encourage them to check it out; give it a shot if nothing else.

Thomas Corp
>>126801060

Yeah, I just looked into that a bit ago, and I read that Bill Fraser took the part explicitly for the reason that he would get to kick K-9. I imagine Jess would have some STRONG words to say about that.

Josef Schiltz
>>126801060

Thing is, JNT didn't find K9 adorable! I wish I could find our interview transcript. We got a "it was lovely meeting you" letter and postcards and it was a treat a while afterwards to meet Vere Lorrimer, the producer of Blake's 7. That was after the time the Liberator was ditched, as I remember illustrating The Scorpio as an addition to the interview. Both were, of course, wary of giving out spoilers.

Josef Schiltz
>>126820663

Sharing the Clara love! And then there's Amy! Furthermore, the house and property that I was brought up in and lived for over fifty years bears a startling resemblance to Amy's and both artist types. Somewhat spooky house as well.

Thomas Corp
>>126820663

Oh yeah, I love the Ponds, Amy especially. I’m with Jess on loving Bill and especially Nardy. Of the Davies era, it’s no question, my favorite is Wilf. Interesting tidbit about Amy’s house bearing an uncanny resemblance to the one you were brought up in. Hopefully there wasn’t the giant glowing smiley-face looking crack in the wall.

Josef Schiltz
>>126820663

A few cracks appeared over time, no smilies - thankfully! It was built upon a medieval cemetery though, so it could have been creepy enough were I worried about such things. Former inhabitants made their presence known if we dug deep enough in the garden! The one thing about that is the intense realization of mortality. The whole thing used to be part of an extensive rectory garden and the rectory itself was gutted by fire in 1953 during the Suffolk floods. The engines that came to attempt to conquer the fire had hoses that were still bunged up with mud from pumping muddy water. Nobody was in residence at the time, the place was owned though and the whole thing stank of arson. My gran caught first sight of it via flames that appeared over our garden's walls and the fire was already in the attics where the servants used to have their quarters. Most villagers at that time had their suspicions. Especially since a fire had already been in the stables only a short time before. A test run to see how fast the engines would get there? Smells a burnt rat to me!

Josef Schiltz
>>126820663

Funnily enough, when we had some strong gales over here in 1987, that dividing garden wall, over which gran saw the flames, came down. the whole length of it turned to a pile of brick rubble, all except the door that my great grandfather used from our part of the property to where he worked as the rectory's head gardener. The door stayed exactly where it was, supported by two slate posts! There was a lost opportunity. I could have drawn a smiley face on the door!

James Fish
>>126820663

Interesting anecdotes. You could kind of imagine it as being the kind of place they would film period dramas. In the Dr Who DVD extras they often compare filming locations from how they looked then to how they look now. Amazing how much can change but still remain recognisable. That definately sounds to be somewhat suspicious - RE The fires!

Josef Schiltz
>>126820663

We've had a few period dramas passing by. They passed! - and went somewhere else down the road! One was Campion with Peter Davison in a story called Look To The Lady. Lovejoy has been around here as well. Also, in the same location as the Campion episode, a Compare The Market advert when the same location 'doubled' for Meerkovo, the meerkat's little village for the long running ad campaign. Simples! Singleton's Pluck was a film that also used the same location.

James Fish
>>126820663

That's cool! Would love to live somewhere like that as opposed to the sprawling city I currently live in! Never say never I guess!

Josef Schiltz
>>126820663

An accident of birth! I remember being totally engrossed in a Doctor Who novelization that I had just bought for 25p - The Zarbi - on a train trip when I was about eight. My mother was miffed that I was missing all the scenery flashing past the train windows and I just thought that it's just more countryside and I see enough of that at home! i was far more interested in the Web Planet! I suppose the well worn phrase is "Familiarity breeds contempt" - Not contempt in my case, just casual dismissal of the familiar!

Josef Schiltz
>>126820663

To my very great surprise, I entered the name of the rectory in Google Search Engine and it came up with a picture of the rectory. 'Semer Rectory' and JB Archive'. I'm somewhat shellshocked! That's the house that my great grandfather worked as a head gardener and the house that I grew up in was part of the grounds.