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Ahsoka 1x05 Full Reaction! (Patreon)

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Ryan

Let's all give a big hand to Ariana Greenblatt. I can't imagine how intimidating it was to step into a role that's already had two hugely beloved actors put their stamp on it and have to carry half an episode on her own, especially at her age, but she pulls it off like a real trooper. She really had a spectacular 2023, following the likes of McKenna Grace and Jenna Ortega in graduating from playing the younger versions of established characters to her own original roles in 65 and Barbie, and still had time to give us another incredible case of the former. She's really going places, and I can't wait to see what she does next to build off all that. And of course along with her we have more of Hayden showing just what he can do with this role when he has decent writing to work with, this time including a flawless transition from Anakin to Vader so that even without the red lightsaber, his face and movement would make it immediately clear who we're now dealing with. And then you add in our very first live action Rex, which Temuera had apparently been asking to play since before he even came back as Boba since he loves the character so much. I'm also in awe of how much Dave Filoni has grown as a director since the days when he freely admitted he had a very awkward time transitioning to live action and his own two episodes were the weakest of The Mandalorian's first season. The shot of Vader flashing over Anakin as he walks into the mist and is followed by all the clones instantly joined my short list of the greatest shots of the entire franchise, and the entire finale with the Purgill is majestic on a level that would fit perfectly on an IMAX screen (though I also have to admit I had way too much fun imagining that whale talk works exactly the same here as in Finding Nemo). On a final note, it was quite a delightful surprise to see this show pay so much homage to the Cal Kestis video games, as the first time we see Ahsoka in the pilot is solving a puzzle straight out of those games, and here she uses Cal's ability of sensing force echoes. I still hold out hope that we'll see him in live action too sometime.

Thomas Corp

Oh, I heartily concur, Jess, that there was SO much that I loved with this episode. Start by talking about Hera. It is very heartwarming seeing Mary thoroughly sell what a lovely mom Hera is to Jacen. (Or is it little Kanan?) You sum up well how Jacen is respectful to and listens to his mom, and Hera likewise shows him the same consideration, and trusts her boy when he steps up to the plate as he did. It is most amusing how Teva is baffled, but ultimately throws in the towel, saying, “Forget it, they’re rolling.” I loved you defending Hera when she puts herself down. Huyang sums up well how you, my cousin, fellow subscribers, all live for Hera, and it is so great. The MAJOR talking points of this episode was the matter of life and death that Ahsoka contended with in the World Between Worlds. I love hearing you say you love the dynamic of Anakin and Ahsoka, and how she brought out the best in him. It is SO WONDERFUL hearing how everyone warmly embraced Hayden’s return to this franchise. It’s made me and my brother sob so many tears of joy. Hayden, by the way, answering your one question, there is deaging cgi, though I keep saying you really could just rely on make-up. Sure, in the Obi-Wan show, he didn’t look nineteen, but he still looks remarkably young for his age. He’s almost exactly a decade older than I am for frame of reference, and I’m thirty-three come April. Loved how you predicted Anakin finishing Ahsoka’s training, followed by the belly laugh when you were proven right. Rosario and Hayden both were excellent in capturing the dynamic, as was Ariana Greenblatt as the young Ahsoka. I share the emotions you felt in the Clone Wars flashbacks. It all feels like celebration of twenty years since the debut of Tartakovsky’s Clone Wars, fifteen years since the debut of Filoni’s Clone Wars, and the introduction to Ahsoka herself. I sobbed seeing Hayden in the Clone Wars style outfit, and I yelled, “Oh God, he looks so good!!!” Similarly, I had a Ricardo Montalbán in Wrath of Khan moment when we see Rex, I pointed, and said, “THERE he is! There he IS!! Aaah!” Again, a shared reaction, Jess, hearing Temuera finally portray Rex. Overall, you summed everything up perfectly. Ahsoka has largely been acting as a Jedi in that she’s kept herself divorced from her emotions, and understandably so given her history; we shan’t, and we won’t blame her for that. It is highlighted well when she calls Anakin out for joking, when that’s largely how he and Obi-Wan endured through the war, and I love they tackled that topic. It’s a recurring theme on M*A*S*H. Hawkeye even has the line of how enduring such traumas and horrors of war, “Joking about it is the only way to open my mouth without screaming.” Or Wayne Rogers, good old Trapper John himself spoke of it in an interview. To my despair, I can’t find the clip, nor do I have his comments written down, but as I recall, Wayne said, about the main characters of M*A*S*H, something to the effect of, “These people were there saving lives. And, you know, war’s about killing people. And these people were about saving people. So, the insanity is justified, that, as I say, you can do anything; if I’m saving a life, that’s justified.” Now, again, that might not be verbatim, but that’s the sentiment that was imparted. And in enduring these visions and flashbacks, Ahsoka is contending with the fact that she has largely checked out. There’s also her contending with her master’s legacy of Darth Vader and how it lives on in her. A fact she somewhat literally confronts when Anakin morphs into Darth Vader, which I so adored your reactions to Anakin coming out all Vadery. “Rude” you say. “Glorious” I say. The beast is the beast, let it run free. Especially great when you hear the pinch of James Earl Jones mixed in with Hayden’s voice. Reminds me that James turns ninety-three tomorrow, God bless that man. Hayden and Rosario killed it with the stunt work. And it is such a cathartic moment when Ahsoka chooses to live, and with it, finally makes peace with her legacy. She’s aware of such a legacy from the war and Anakin, but she is now no longer going to reject it, she will instead embrace it, like her nephew before her.

Thomas Corp

It’s then lovely Ahsoka has a moment to breath and let that sink in when she is rescued by Hera. Understandable, that she would need a moment, as Darkness took her, and she strayed out of thought and time... But it was not the end. She feels life in her again. And she has been sent back until her task is done. It is quite the outrageous plan of hitching a ride with the purrgils. Many a fan had words to say about that. Me, I also noted it’s ludicrous nature, but largely was fine with it. What helped was there was copious lampshading of how nuts it all was, like Filoni is saying, “Even they think this is certifiable, move on.” But yes, our heroes are relying on the honor system with the space whales, by hitching the ride, Finding Nemo style. Teva was a bro, covering for our heroes long enough to achieve that by running interference with the fleet. Said fleet lays bare Xiono’s hypocrisy in that Hera reasonably requested a small task force to investigate the villainous fuckery, and Xiono, the other senators as well, but mostly Xiono shot it down under the reasoning, “I’m afraid we can’t afford to waste New Republic resources on such frivolous adventures.” But he’s perfectly fine sending a whole fleet to the same location to arrest Hera. Probably Ahsoka too. And the dirty coward can’t even be bothered to be there. He stays detached, which is exactly what Chopper will do to his retinas if he gets half the chance. Speaking of, I love how you know Chopper so well now, what with his murderous tendencies. I do like how Teva tells the truth, and to the General in charge’s credit, she listens, and pays heed to the warnings. And now Ahsoka and Huyang are off to find Ezra and Sabine, encouraged by Hera’s “May the Force be with you.”, loved your reaction to that, and spectacular music from Kevin Kiner who went above and beyond this whole episode. I love how you’re so on board with that given how Thrawn’s imminent return is at hand. You speak of the idea of Thrawn coming back with his high-ass cheekbones, and fucking shit up. Well, of course he will. Some fans have been waiting over thirty years to see that in live action; we need to give the people what they want. It therefore would be prudent to try to get Ezra and his voluptuous hair (Though last you saw him, he had a buzzcut.) back into the fold for a repeat performance. Then again, I’d be much more invested in a potential rematch between Thrawn and Hera, than seeing Ezra wreck Thrawn’s shit. To see Hera be that bitch against Thrawn’s excellence, I’d have plenty of food, a cooler full of beer just for the occasion, and I’m sure you’d be most interested to see it as well. Oh, this was a BEAUTIFUL reaction, Jess. Like the Obi-Wan show, your decision to hold off on reacting to this until you were caught up has made these reactions so perfect. They have been more than well worth the wait, and they have exceeded my high expectations. Thank you so much, Jess, for the perfection that has been the Ahsoka reactions thus far, and I look forward to the remaining three.

Thomas Corp
>>127128337

Yes, young Ariana was terrific. Had to look up what character Jenna Ortega played the young version of. My brother and I have spent the past two decades plus defending Hayden to the death, and saying he is a fantastic actor. To see him shine in this, with the better writing, was everything. Again, I love how the fans have embraced Hayden returning to this franchise. Likewise, it was so great for Temuera to finally get to be Rex. One annoying thing was hearing fans expressing shock, SHOCK over how young Ahsoka was in the war flashbacks, like it finally got in their heads that she was more or less a child soldier. I mean, wasn’t that obvious from the get go? Filoni really has come a long way with his directing in the medium of live action. I didn’t even have a problem with his earliest efforts, and I concede he has evolved well. Nice to see I’m not alone in thinking of Finding Nemo during the big purrgil scene. I had the joke, “You happen to have a blue tang fish with you guys to translate?”

Ryan
>>127147413

They also had enough faith in the audience to not spell out the lesson entirely and let us put the pieces together ourselves. Sure, this resulted in a few people, including professional reviewers, complaining that they couldn't understand it, but if you look through what else those people had to say about the show, most of the time they clearly weren't paying attention anyway.

YodatheHobbit

Watching this episode felt like something Dave Filoni pulled out of my head. Although it didn't take place in the World Between Worlds there, but just a conversation similar to the one between Luke and Obi-Wan on Dagobah. This was better that what I pictured in my head.

Saltire le Hutt

Ahsoka saying to Anakin she won't fight him and him replying "I've heard that before", shows him remembering Luke saying that to him on the Death Star "I won't fight you father". Lovely moment with Jacen telling Hera to listen as he hears the duel through the force. One its a great force moment showing us he has his father's ability and also that Hera can hear echoes of that too. Hera is the greatest pilot in the galaxy and I've always felt that she is able to channel the force subconsciously, but this is one of the first times she's quietened her mind so that she can actually hear it. Then when Huyang tells Carson about Kanan, complete with Kanan's Theme, man that got to me. You held up better than me when Ahsoka got transported back to the Clone War and with Hayden too being there as Anakin was too much. I noted he even deflected bolts like his animated counterpart in the series too, lovely touch. I love that everything is a bit foggy in the Clone Wars, obviously with it being shot on the Volume that was a wise choice for practicality, but it also shows this is a time from a memory of Ahsoka, where she remembers the main details and everything else isn't so vibrant, like when we look back at many of our own memories. Another lovely bit is when she sits and breaks down as she holds the dying clone's hand. We know the bond she had with her clones and how tragic their own story is; but for those who haven't seen the animations and have no idea about that story, this might show them in a new light. We hear adult Ahsoka through her younger self questioning it all, having kids lead soldiers into death and destruction, and that wasn't supposed to be who she was meant to be. After all these years, she still hadn't got over all of that, and this is even outside of everything that comes later for her. Anakin responding that if she didn't fight, she would die, which is both about her being in purgatory just now and that if she wasn't trained to be a warrior, she wouldn't have survived the war and the time. Huyang telling Hera and summing her character up in one sentence "you do things your way because you care; this is why people like you!" - yep that's Hera alright, she's the best! :D The young actress playing Clone Wars Ahsoka was terrific. I believe she was only 15 or so when filming, so would be bang in the middle of Ahsoka's age throughout the war, and she looks a tad young at Mandalore, but it also shows how sobering this was again, that kids would be subjected to be warriors leading squadrons into major battles. Ahsoka looks older in the animated form in season 7 of TCW when this is set, but this just emphasises here how young she was when she went through so much already. She had already left the Jedi and Anakin now and was about to take on a Sith Lord, and then the devastation of Order 66; and you can feel she's hardened up, but is still reflective about the justification for all this and what is to come. She questions the legacy handed down to her, and is frightened of it, mainly because of Anakin's great fall. You hit the nail on the head Jess, thats why she was reluctant to train Grogu and failed earlier with Sabine, she thinks that the only lesson she learnt from Anakin and the Jedi was of death and destruction - which is what Baylan tells her in the previous episode. She has to let it all go, and remember there was more to it all than being a warrior; that she has the best parts of Anakin, Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon inside and thats far stronger than the fear of being just an ex-Jedi warrior, or even falling to the darkside because of everything she's went through. She is more than that, and needed to hear it. There are a few interpretions of what Anakin is here, is he force ghost Anakin? I don't think so personally as he wouldn't have drifted to the darkside in their last duel. What I think Filoni is showing, is that he has become The Father from Mortis, the balance between the light and the dark; we even have to remember that his Sith name literally translates back to Dark Father. Ahsoka chooses to live, to drop all that baggage to unburden herself, step out of the shadow of what became of Anakin and move on, and is thus reborn in water as Ahsoka The White. :) Carson being a real one by holding up the rebel fleet as they come to the planet is great; he's pretty awesome! I think with Disney scrapping the Rangers Of The New Republic show as they dropped Gina Cardano has beneffited this character, so that he'll be one of the characters instead taking the fight to Thrawn on his return. Huyang questioning to Ahsoka that they could be going anywhere with the purgil, but she's not worried about that now, Yoda would always say trust in the force, and this is what she is doing. Having Kevin Kiner compose the show was a masterstroke. We knew he wouldn't let us down, and boy the music has ramped up so much these last two episodes and the ending score is truly epic as we journey into space with the purgil. The hyperspace jump from the whales pov is reminiscent of the finale of Rebels, when Ezra and Kanan took a ride out of the galaxy into the beyond, and now Ahsoka and Huyang are doing the same. Ahsoka tells Hera "we'll find them", echoing what she said to Ezra in the World Between Worlds "I'll find you, I promise". And as we leave we can see the light shine on Ahsoka as she has now reached true enlightenment. I was an emotional wreck this episode. Masterful Filoni, masterful. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/En2VgWtWEAARre1.jpg

Thomas Corp
>>131304071

I so adore that the “I’ve heard that before” line was Hayden’s idea. Such a terrific mom moment that Hera had. Same here, thinking she could subconsciously channel the Force. Knew the Kanan mention complete with his theme would get you. Yeah, there were lots of tears in the Clone Wars flashbacks. The memories of both Clone Wars series were strong. And to see Hayden in that capacity, the weeping was strong with this one. It does have that faded look we all have with memories, great point. Ariana Greenblatt sold young Ahsoka perfectly. She was very good in Barbie too. Everything in the flashbacks/memories, the confronting old wounds, the looking back on when you were young from the perspective of your older self, and the contemplation of legacy, was all masterfully done. Anakin as he appears here being the Father is a good thought. Cathartic it is, seeing Ahoska choose life and emerge as Ahsoka the White. I honestly think we could still get that Rangers of the New Republic show with Teva and Zeb. Certainly, yes, Teva as a character has benefited from the extra spotlight that likely came from Gina Carano shooting herself in the foot. Huyang questioning the plan does also work as speaking for those in the audience who question how nuts any of it is. It is also as Qui-Gon said, “Don’t center on your anxieties, Obi-Wan. Keep your concentration here and now, where it belongs.” and when Obi-Wan notes, “But Master Yoda said I should be mindful of the future.” Qui-Gon replies, “But not at the expense of the moment. Be mindful of the living Force, young Padawan.” The stanzas of the final scenes of this episode rhyming with the ending to Rebels was sob inducing, yes. Cute picture of Filoni.