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Ryan

This episode was such a huge roll of the dice, and I’m so glad they took that chance and had it turn out this well. As a lot of non-comic fans guessed, Kahhori is a completely original character (though unlike those of us watching on release, you’ve already seen her actress Devery Jacobs as Bonnie in Echo, which naturally has a lot of fans hoping they’re related), and on top of that, they had the guts to make us eat subtitles for the whole episode until Dr. Strange shows up, with a nice extra touch of having them be different colors for Mohawk and Spanish. This fickle fanbase so easily could have rejected it entirely, but instead it’s now a popular choice for the show’s best episode. The feeling I was most left with was that I’d somehow seen a whole movie’s worth of story without feeling rushed at all to fit into 30 minutes, and Kahhori is easily engaging enough to want to see more of her (though I do have to push back on all the people saying “finally the MCU has created its own original hero;” I will not stand for this Phil Coulson erasure!). I do question a bit how engaging she can be beyond this origin story as the only apparent limit to her power is getting overwhelmed by enough simultaneous attacks, and even that seems more like something she can get better at with experience rather than a continuously exploitable weakness. But the alternate history angle still has enough interesting things you can do that it’s not as much of a problem as it could be, and being that far in the past means you don’t have the Captain Marvel issue of having to explain why she doesn’t just instantly solve every problem. I’m so happy for all the Native American fans who have been celebrating getting two heroes who look like them in the past couple months, and I hope the success they’ve both had is the start of a bigger push industry-wide.

Thomas Corp

Yes, this episode was a beautiful one. I only have two complaints and they are small, borderline meaningless ones. The first is that I wish this was a full-length film released in theaters. I see Ryan commented on the story being full and rich enough to feel like a movie’s worth of story without feeling like it’s rushed, which lessens the complaint. Interesting how the Tesseract is the root cause of the divergence. Kahhori emerges as a very engaging character. She is original to this show, and since she became quite popular with audiences, I await her being introduced in the comics. I appreciate how you loved her. You do love a stubborn queen. Me too, Jess. Some more than others. You express a great strength of Kahhori that they strike a good balance of she is in awe and wonderment of her new powers and the land in which she has entered, yet she is not deterred from her goal of saving her people; she does not have the time nor luxury of having humorous moments of testing web-slinging powers, or chiding the Dum-E robots whilst perfecting armor. Great how Kahhori gets her fellow empowered comrades to help. After all, the Tesseract was the jewel of Odin’s treasure room. It is not something one buries, and by extension, its powers are not something one hides away from the world whilst others suffer. Kahhori’s fate was to get the power she has, and she seizes her destiny, and saves her people, and it is so great. You mention the music, it did kick up a notch in this one. All in all, like you said, a beautiful episode, leading to your beautiful reaction, which I adored, and now you’re curious how Doctor Strange (Or is it Strangey-Strange?) will fit into things, especially how his appearance looks like the Darth Strange variant from what is still my favorite episode of this series, though a few from this season are close to matching it. Strange’s appearance is the second mild complaint is that I would have preferred to not have him appear at the end, or at least not in the main body of the episode; say this was a film in the theater, that would have been well suited for the end credits scene. Talk about how you’re proud of yourself for not forcing yourself to catch up on all the MCU films prior to this season of the show. I’m proud of you that you’re proud of yourself, Jess. If it helps, I’m still behind with the MCU films myself. I still have yet to see Shang-Chi, Thor 4, Wakanda Forever, Guardians 3, and The Marvels (Though from the sound of things, box-office-wise, EVERYBODY still needs to see The Marvels, so at least I’m not alone on that one.). Thus, I share the concern you had of being lost with any of these episodes, and I subsequently share your delight that this was a purely original story that can be enjoyed by itself, thus the worry, in this instance at least, is nonexistent. Like I said, I adored this reaction, Jess, thank you.

Ryan

I plan to be absolutely insufferable from now on about seeing The Marvels on its opening weekend, just like I am about Elemental. And even without the comedy training montage, I do really appreciate that the line “The record is fourteen” has a distinct undertone of “Did you seriously think none of us had ever thought of that?”

Thomas Corp

Yeah, that line was a good touch. I think I will be the same level of being absolutely insufferable about seeing Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny with my mom on opening night. Same with my seeing The Rise of Skywalker by myself on its opening night, though that is less because of the box office, and more because I genuinely loved it, flaws and all.

Thomas Corp

I heard about that, Devery Jacobs voicing Kahhori, then playing Bonnie in Echo. Good for her. Concur with loving the show forcing people to “eat subtitles” as you put it. Way I’ve heard things, this episode was very warmly received. Nobody really complained, barring bigoted assholes and trolls who keep going on about the MCU “Drowning in wokeism.” whatever the fuck that means, or what people think it means when they say stupid shit like that. In terms of people saying that Kahhori is the first original hero, and you saying you will not stand for the Coulson erasure. There’s also the Cavalry herself, May, I will not stand for that erasure, then there’s Luis. Concerning how engaging Kahhori can be beyond this origin story, she reads some like Magneto, power-wise, and even he had his limits. Provided she has good writing backing her up, she has good villains to contend with, and perhaps the occasional emotional quandary, I don’t see much in the way of problems with that. Plus, like you said, the alternate history angle will help. I agree with you about hoping for the bigger push industry-wide.

Thomas Corp

By the way, on the off chance you haven’t seen it yet, I won’t go into specific details on the Fargo season finale. The finale, and the season as a whole, I loved it. I would have to rewatch the first and second seasons again to properly ascertain my ranking, though I suspect the second season remaining at a close second overall. The third season, of course, being my favorite, and the fourth season, though I still maintain I did not find it to be bad, does end up as the weakest season thus far, though still good, I enjoyed it well enough. For the fifth season, Lorraine came out on top as my favorite character of the season, not least because of Jennifer. A man emerged as a very close second in terms of favorite characters of the season.

Alvin Cura

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