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What If 2x08 Full Reaction! (Patreon)

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2024-02-05 17:52:42
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Ryan

This episode is ostensibly based on a miniseries written by Neil Gaiman, but in practice it has pretty much nothing in common beyond the base idea of putting Marvel characters in 1602. Gaiman himself was disappointed that the story was adapted this way, saying the setting was easily rich enough to support its own series, and hoped if the episode went over well enough that could actually happen. And it seems a lot of people did like it quite a bit, though given how quickly What If Season 3 went into production I wouldn't count on a return appearance there. I imagine there was quite a bit of asking the actors what kind of material they'd like to have, with Jon Favreau having a ball as an old-timey fop and Tom Hiddleston getting to revisit his Shakespeare roots (seriously, if you haven't seen The Hollow Crown, it's one of the most accessible and engaging Shakespeare adaptations ever and Hiddleston's Henry V is the best part). Hopefully this opens the door to more totally different settings in future seasons, because this one was a ton of fun and there's so many more fun time periods you can put these characters in.

Thomas Corp

I still need to figure out my ranking of the episodes, but this is definitely one of my favorites of your reactions to this show. I just had a big smile on my face the whole time. Such a delightful reaction, Jess. This whole episode was bonkers beyond belief. As Ryan stated, the set-up for the episode is based on a miniseries written by Neil Gaiman. I share the hope that we get more of this setting. Loved your joy over Scott. Nice to have more dramatic scenes from Uatu, leading to stellar performances given by Oscar nominee Jeffrey Wright. (Boy, does that have a nice ring to it.) Thor was extremely overzealous in blaming Peggy. Then again, this variant of Thor it appears hasn’t grasped the concept of supreme executive power deriving from a mandate from the masses not from some farcical lightning hammer. The continuation of Captain Carter’s story continues to be lovely. An interesting presentation of the different variants of the characters. Most interesting was seeing Happy and Tony being enemies. I assume this variant of Happy has had it in for this variant of Tony since Tony was caught poaching in the king’s forest. He deered to kill a king’s dare, yes? The final fight/storming the castle was quite chaotic, complete with Hulk being your favorite signal as you said. I don’t doubt the editing was stressful. That’s where the full reactions are lovely, I don’t have to worry about missing your reactions my favorite part of any episode. You and I had a similar reaction when Steve sliced Happy’s feathers. He fell victim to one of the classic blunders. The most famous, is never get involved in a land war with Asia. But only SLIGHTLY LESS well known is this: Never fuck with a man’s feathers when DEATH is on the line! Peggy came through. I mean, the Sacred Timeline really could have used a Captain Carter. I think Thanos wouldn’t have gotten as far as he did. It is quite sad at the end when Peggy saves the day and says goodbye to Steve again. Though as you noted, something to take comfort in is there is the timeline where they did get to live happily. Other highlights. Loki performing Shakespeare, though I’m such a fucking nerd that I yelled, “Hamlet doesn’t hold Yorick’s skull during that soliloquy.” Though they do make up for it with Loki trying to sell Othello by describing Iago as the true main character of Othello. Which he is. It’s like how the primary saga of Star Wars, the story is all about the Emperor, which makes it very fitting that Ian McDiarmid drew a lot of inspiration from Iago for Revenge of the Sith especially, with elements of Richard III combined with Faustian overtones. I also get a huge laugh over Bruce being given the grain alcohol in the early hours of the morning when presumably, his kidneys were expecting orange juice. Silly kidneys. Such a lovely reaction to a wonderful episode. I wish we had more beyond the reaction to the season finale. And we will, I just wish we did not have to wait. And I hope when we do get more episodes that you get some strong Sam focus. Me, I’ll take more Thanos or Red Skull. Plenty of Nebula. For sure. Get Alfred Molina and Willem Dafoe as Doc Ock and Green Goblin. Sirs Ian McKellen and Patrick Stewart as Magneto and Professor Xavier. I would love some Jean Grey and/or Dark Phoenix episodes with either Famke Janssen or Sophie Turner, or hell, I’ll take both of them as Jean/the Dark Phoenix in this show. And certainly, we need to get J. K. Simmons as J. Jonah Jameson involved in this show somehow. Until any of that happens, we still have one more reaction to get to, which I’m sure, Jess, will be just as lovely as this one was. Thank you for this week’s reaction.

Thomas Corp
>>128906554

I’m with Gaiman being disappointed that the miniseries is essentially condensed, though I share his hope that this ends up being its own show. I figured you would quite like this episode given your fondness for Gaiman’s work. Tom Hiddleston doing Shakespeare is quite something. Given how Loki talked about Othello, I’d love to see him play Iago. I too would look forward to more inventive settings/fun time periods in the episodes/seasons to come.

Ryan
>>128906554

Also a nice little shoutout to how Shakespeare experts really do mostly consider Iago the main character of Othello, since he has more lines and drives all the action. I wouldn't be surprised if Hiddleston himself suggested that.

Ryan
>>128907230

I blame Billy Madison for spreading the idea that the skull goes with that speech. The crew has said they wanted to do something with the X-Men this season, but Feige won't let them until the characters appear in the sacred timeline. Of course, we have the return of Wolverine and probably more in Deadpool 3 in a few months.

Thomas Corp
>>128907230

Billy Madison probably is to blame for spreading the idea that the skull goes with that soliloquy. Just like how Tommy Boy is probably most directly responsible for the idea that Darth Vader’s famous line in Empire is “Luke, I am your father.” instead of the actual line, “No. I am your father.”