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Overanalyzing Korra: Beginnings, Part 2 (Patreon)

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2024-07-16 17:29:40
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Remember what that side said at the start of the Serpent's Pass? What was it again?

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Overanalyzing Korra: Beginnings, Part 2

The problems rear their ugly head. TWO EPISODES AHEAD ON PATREON: https://www.patreon.com/Overanalyzing Korra also. #korra #avatarthelastairbender #thelegendofkorra #avatar

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GB2 _

I think Raava doesn't take away from aangs characterizations, Before wan was the avatar he was kind hearted, Caring, and valued balence and equality. I think all avatars need these traits, But they don't come from Raava. We're dealing with destiny stories here, And so when in reincarnation they next avatar is probably picked due to the attributes that are needed to help guide the world

D G

The Rava/Vatu Balance always felt like this "Star War Balance". Where balance means No Dark Only Light

D G

At 11:09 the guy says "He is controlling all 4 Elements". Question how does he even know about the other 3 Elements? He has never seen any Waterbender,Airbender or Earthbender before this. Wang was the first Time he even saw this

D G

"I am not regular Human anymore" has the same vibe as TFS "You are not dealing with the avarage Saijan Warrior anymore"

Spooderman

Personally I never liked the added lore in these episodes sure the character and the final battle was good. But the lore stuff was just uneccessary and dumb. Rava and Vatuu were generic and unintresting. I would have prefered it that every avatar was a chosen one kind of thing and that every avatar was chosen becuse they were good. Rava and Vatuu should never have been a thing. A lot of season 2 feels like spectacle an no substance.

Ben Carroll

Typo in the description there: side -> sign. Best of luck - hope you don't get shouted at too much (great episode btw, as per)

Origin

I always have a really hard time coming back to these episodes because I already know I don’t like them. I find cool or interesting details about it but I can’t get past Raava and Vaatu. I can’t get past how little energybending seems to matter to this time period—the era before the Avatar (unless Raava or Wan’s existence despite not being bonded makes it the era of the Avatar? idk). I can’t get past a lot of things this episode does to the rest of the franchise Are these episodes retconning the previous worldbuilding? Maybe; maybe not, but either way I personally find it less interesting than anything else they could’ve done to flesh out what was established in TLA With all of that said, I can agree that these episodes are pretty good on their own. Were it any other series I would probably enjoy it immensely

Aurora clark

Im surprised hello future me didn’t jump in again as #1 hater of this two parter. Great video either way!

Lightning189

Changing the Avatar from "Embodiment of the Planet's Spirit" to "A carpet vessel" is definitely one of LoK's strangest writing choices.

Dondoki

good and evil? is that a reference to hit album good & evil by tally hall?

Gulley Tract Food Forest Farmstead

She's a magical kite slug wtf show... I feel like they could have added this story in at any point in korra and it wouldn't change anything. In other shows something as big as this story would have been hinted at for multiple seasons or at least episodes and referenced not just oh we are changing the entire structure of the show this late into the game and now future story lines are forced to adapt to this. This effectively killed the story line in Korra and not in a wise end game way no they just killed the avatars connection. any chance at recovering the avatars connection in future story lines forces the story to make some shit up just like korra did and you'll just have to roll with that... really discourages anyone from wanting the story to continue with another avatar after korra

Eating Pancakes Right Now

I definitely "fuck with the vibe" of the humans fighting off the spirits. I think when I first watched these episodes I was totally distracted and disliked the Vatu Raava fight and Wan's intervention that I didn't really get the rest of the story a chance, but I don't want to cause I don't like any of the spirits. Their all so conceited and basically have the right to be cause the show says so, which pisses me off

Eating Pancakes Right Now

That's boring to me though. There should be a chance an Avatar would fail cause of their character traits. Picking up and learning the character trait needed to save the world was aprt of what made Aang's so meaningful, but that means less now

Jordan

Can't wait for you to get to season 3, the best season

Ernst Valcourt

Excited to see you get to Season 3 and Season 4. But More importantly Season 3, the best season.

Josh Clark

They called them light and dark but treated them more like balance vs chaos.

Jellybean

Zaheer, somewhere in prison: 😑😑😳

Spearoux

I really like these episodes and they are great story telling, However with the maybe retconning and a lot of the themes they don't fit in the overall avatar story for me and work best as a stand alone show. I also agree with not knowing the origin being better

A Person

What retcons?

A Person

If only it was

A Person

Kites and dragons are the same thing. Just look at Gyarados.

A Person

What are you talking about? That literally goes against the premise of the series.

A Person

This is a show. They’re not going to have a character fail to the point that they can’t recover.

GB2 _

Of course these characters have flaws, But at heart they are the base things, Caring, Kind, And have good hearts. Aang can't make hard decisions, Korra is too hot headed, Ozai was too caring to not snuff out sozin.

Syncron

I like these episode because of how they are told. But the logic gets thrown out the windows, especially when the finale comes and we talk about the knowledge Vaatu and Raava each know. Wan was desperate and would have tried anything to try and win. He even says they have to try. He was pinned down, so maybe he tried to leave who knows, but its a origin story, so it's cool like said. This episode is amazing to me if it was standalone because the logic doesn't kill the plot. Like without the future episodes, i could reason that every being with light has darkness inside of them which gives Vaatu his strength (such as anger, etc). When stuck together, light and dark balance out and as one moved free they got stronger in influence and the other weaker. But think about it in the finale this logic and the power scale then. When the finale comes around all these writing mistakes will start to show cracks. I like these two episodes more than the entire season and despise the rest of the season because of them

Ernst Valcourt

Well admittedly I found Season 4 to be kinda boring/mid to me. Not a terrible season but not as engaging as the 3rd season

Mateo David

The universe is on a lion turtle. What’s the lion turtle on? Ha! It’s lion turtles all the way down.

Mateo David

Another great episode!…. From you I mean 😁

Robert Vanek

I assume the Airbenders were afraid of outsiders becase of stories from the spirits about other people being violent monsters who throw fire at anything they see. As for the other non-monk coded people in the city, my assumption is that the airbenders are like an order of monks or priests that live within that society instead of just being the society as a whole. Like how on the fire turtle there were social classes, on this one there might be a different way of dividing themselves.

Robert Vanek

Your balance rant really hit on one of my biggest issues with Korra. It took the moral questions of the original show, including the spirits, and the way it's almost entirely different shades of morally gray only to make it "objective good vs objective evil". It's like the writers missed the point of their own show.

Malachi Berry

Looking at these two episodes, I think they are good, but they would be better if it was a standalone story. my reasoning, for this is that this doesn’t really help with the overall storytelling of the main plot, which is the Civil War of the water tribe. I think it would be better if they showed the origins of the water tribe and why they split to north and south

Leonard Marston

Ngl I REALLY don’t like this half of season 2

Warren Patton

So, I think there's a bit more to Vaatu. Yes he represents chaos and evil, but he also represents the spirits, while Raava represents the physical. Or at least that's my theory. When Vaatu and Raava are in balance, the world is like it is in these episodes, with humans and spirits in a tenuous balance. When Raava is dominant, the spirits are mostly banished from the physical world. If Vaatu were dominant the spirits would be stronger (and have their boring dark spirit designs) and humans would be wiped out. While Raava winning is better overall, it is actually worse for the spirits. I'm not trying to be defensive of the show. I think there are aspects of this that don't quite work if you think about it too hard. But if you think of it that way it does make more sense overall, and Tarlok's motive of wanting to free Vaatu also makes more sense.

River Fern

once i realized i only liked these two episodes for the art style, i was released.

Matthew Lang

It takes Wan to know Wan. And Rava knows him better than anyone, now.

L K

I saw this review that said that the polarization of the light and dark were too western for the eastern based origins of the show and made that dissonance. It would have been better if the spirits were more akin to order and chaos as each spirit would influence a region based off their philosophy. As each spirit would be apart their motives would go into overdrive and create an authoritarian or anarchist nations that would be miserable for any peoples/spirits. And instead of sealing away the dark pennant spirit the avatar would have both within, embodying their concepts of order, chaos, and balance.