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Warriors vs Lakers GM-29 (Patreon)

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Goku44

I'm a first ballot hall of fame Lebron hater who wants Curry to win another as much as the next but I started to root against the Warriors after Draymond pulled that double arm take down on Reaves and Hachimura. He is still doing this crap.

Sarcasm 360

“Warriors are just so mundane, this does not look like a team that’s trying to breakdown the defense, can’t be good forever but this looks like underperforming rather than lack of ability. Also they ran 3 guards for about 85 percent of the game is anyone being maximized here? If the lakers weren’t just as lethargic it’d be a blowout.” <— this note was before the final 5 minutes of the game, went from mundane to just ass, then curry shows up late and almost bails them out just for Wiggins to get beat by AUSTIN REAVES off the dribble for the game. Ok bro

Mitch Coob

Alch, assuming the team doesn’t make anymore moves this season, what would your ideal lineup and rotation be with the roster as it’s currently constructed?

Jansen E

Im sick of Draymond. Im sick of Steve Kerr. Im sick of "fLaSHeS" of TJD and Kuminga. One game they look like our future and the steals of their draft, and the next 5 games they look unplayable. Curry is 37. We dont have time for that kind of inconsistency. As far as we are all concerned, the window is closed. Literally the only that that would get Curry #5 is if he himself is traded to a contender. There is no single trade or even multi-team trade that will push this team into contending. Why? Simple. Steve Kerr, no matter what, will NEVER change his coaching style and philosophy. Even if Draymond is handicapping the whole team and system, lets say we get rid of Draymond. Kerr will STILL use Schroeder incorrectly, he will STILL play too small, and he will STILL force the same game breaking mistakes that this whole roster exudes. We could get fucking Jokic and I wouldnt trust Kerr with him. This is not to say its all Kerr's fault. As you say Alch, plenty of blame to go around. But what Im saying and what my point is, there is NO trade that solves this team's issues. We all know Draymond isnt going anywhere, even if we want to believe. But Kerr wont allow the team, regardless of the roster, to play any other way. We could get Valanciunas and Vucevic, and he still wouldnt play either of them enough to have an impact. The young guys all have "FLASHES". But theyre not good enough even in those flashes to sustain winning and good play. Curry is too old to carry. Draymond is basically useless unless Curry is hitting everything. This team is beyond flawed and beyond saving. My vote is to call up Quinten Post and give him 20 minutes a night and force him to show us what hes got. Cuz right now, not only is there no "two timelines", there is not even ONE timeline. Curry is *NOT* surrounded with enough talent to compete, and the young guys arent good enough to buy into long term. Just unleash Quinten Post so we could at least be interested.

Dashaya Toney

On the last possession: I don't blame Kuminga or Wiggs necessarily, I think the bigger issue is Kerr not having TJD on the floor when he was affecting shots all night.

athleticalchemy
>>159442734

IDK at this point man, we havent got to see any lineup long. Id like to see more Trayce DS 2 man game and if we put Kyle in the rotation as a point forward we could have less 3 guard looks

Shantel

Such a waste of an epic Steph performance.

Yungdoms

The more I think about what you said about Draymond in the post game live, the more I’m seeing what you’re saying. A lot of dumb stuff, and I feel like it’s been years of him making careless passes and negatively affecting the games momentum in multiple ways. At least Steph had a good game, but yeah I hope they don’t offload Kuminga. If they can extend him and put in his contract that he gets bonuses if he hits 80% FTs and 30% 3PTs for the season that would be fire 😂

Ballin Forever

Draymond is in Kuminga and Steph way. And ultimately its going to have to come down to if Steph is willing to sign off on a Draymond trade. And because i dont think thats going to happen... Kuminga might have to be traded for more spacing. Also.. we desperately need a stretch 5. That would give Steph and DS a pick and pop partner.. it would open the floor for everyone. Teams who have been able to go 5-out have been killing us. While we are playing hot potato trickery basketball.. other teams are keeping it very simple If this was 2k and not IRL.... i would trade Draymond GP2 Moody.. picks and whoever else for a stretch 5 and another forward who can space the floor. I think that would solve ALOT of our problems.

Dashaya Toney

I like Kuminga and I think he can be a good player eventually, but if the question is build for the future with him as the centerpiece or go all in for these last 2 years of Steph, it's laughable that it's even a question. Ignoring Steph's legacy and importance to the franchise, RIGHT NOW even with him on the slow decline and not able to go 100% every night, he is a better player than Kuminga ever will be at his peak. I don't think that's even a question. Again, I like JK and I see the potential but he can't shoot, he's a mediocre defender, and wildly inconsistent offensively. He's a slasher who can't create his own shot on the regular, struggles from 3, and doesn't have a super high bbiq. That's not a #1 option worthy of building around when you compare with Steph right now.

Kahlil Baker

Look I was rooting for Podz but I’m over it! Kyle should be playing more minutes. Kuminga should have the leash Podz has and Podz needs a shorter leash! Quentin Post needs to be in uniform to give us 2-5 minutes of a stretch 5. They need to sign Bowden again. We need more size and these 6’1-6’4 line ups need to be abandoned.

Offtopic K

Merry Christmas to dubs😔

jackie

I’m just over Steve Kerr saying he’s still finding the right rotations. Is it really THAT hard??? There is no consistency and no one knows when they’re going to have minutes. Pretty hard for anyone to have rhythm if it’s like that.

Diego

I always thought to myself that Draymond has been the issue with out offensive, he is so predictable and he is the reason we haven’t been able to evolve. Say what u want about Kerr but he has shown he can play with other stars all be it in the Olympics but Dray is the one who limits us. He always need to touch the ball, always need to stand and stare directly at curry. He is playing that 1A role for us holding the ball while curry is playing off ball. That is what we want for curry if we do trade for a star. We want that star to hold the ball and let Steph rest but that can never happen as long as Dray is on this team. You can see it rn with Kuminga and Dennis. Draymond cant be the primary ball handler or offensive initiator of a championship team since the 2022 finals. And even then he was getting cooked by the Celtics. I say either way we are cooked because Curry and Kerr will never green light a Dray trade and Draymond really doesn’t ever want to leave. He makes too much money and has too big of a role on this team for us to be championship contenders.

Diego

I thought Kuminga was ass tonight, like he was pouting and trying to prove a point by being passive and over passing in spite of Kerr. I could see him wake up after his dunk and the very next possession he attacked the paint, even though he missed, only to start being passive right after on both ends of the floor. But to be fair, team didn’t exactly try and feed him or draw him plays vs a Davis less lakers which should have been the obvious decision.

Murugu Venkat

What if we just do the transition and try that. Schroeder, Wiggs, Kuminga, Kyle, and TJD starting with Steph as 6 man, followed by Loon, Moody, Podz, and with Draymond and gp2 for spot minutes. Steph gets to dump his energy as a microwave instead of having to burn early minutes where he has been slow all season anyway. Shorter run might also mean better closeouts. Our starting line looks way way bigger with plug and play defenders. We can use more fouls early and play more aggressively. I think Stack would get a chance to push the young guys without them getting butthurt about Kerr's rotations. + Draymond can still be a voice without his body failing out on the floor. I want to see more Anderson minutes, I want to see more curry flurries but he just looks spent (even when he was shooting well last night), and I want to see more TJD against guards (he just needs the practice)

athleticalchemy
>>159442316

Im surprised they didnt want smoke, at this point I think guys treat Dray like the crazy kid at school. "never mind him he crazy"

Diego
>>159443618

No one is saying he would be a A1 player but he is definitely a player than can help right now and be a part of the future as well. I would say trade him because he isn’t gonna be any better than he is right now under Kerr and behind Draymond

athleticalchemy
>>159443358

the other thing i am noticing when we talk "feel" and "iq" this new gen collectively just doesn't have as much. If we comp JK to Jalen Green, jalen Johnosn who ever slot what ever young wing in you want they all lack fundamentals and feel for the most part

BruceWayne

AD went down and Kerr doesn’t change the rotation to give TJD more minutes. Why?

Paul Hanson

Great breakdown of a difficult game to stomach-but we Dubs fans are somehow getting used to the disappointment. It has me looking at old Dubs games when they had more size, dynamic players, the team was younger, there were 6 centers on the team, etc. A lot of this is Father Time is Undefeated; a lot of this is the Warriors with Steph regardless of record are a 9 Billion dollar organization that might just keep minting money regardless. Are they the Dallas Cowboys of the NBA? I hope not! But all of us fans are tired of the scrambling, overhelping on defense as only Kuminga and perhaps Wiggins have the size and speed to scramble out to the 3pt line and impact a shot. It looks hilarious when Steph does it-he almost labors to get out on a shooter. Without AD-the Lakers still made the Warriors look familiarly too small, too unorganized on defense, too slow, and no one outside of Steph can really shoot. Draymond is embarrassing. I just might be for a Draymond trade as Wiggins seems to be outplaying him. The style that Kerr wants the Warriors to play just doesn't seem to be taking hold because the principals to the style are in the twilight of their careers. Makes you think about if Klay were still around-perhaps it would be different? I really don't know what they are going to do but like all of us-I can't wait to see what movement they make. It's been overdue for awhile now. Thanks again Uncle Alch.

Ballin Forever

Just imagine how dominant our offense would look with someone like Al Horford.. Naz.. Myles.. or Vucevic at the 5. A Center who can go screen but also be a threat above the break and in the corners. That is the move. A lineup of Steph DS Wiggs Kuminga and Vucevic would be a super dominant offensive lineup. Or you can pickup someone like DFS. And run our Steph Wiggs DFS Kuminga and a stretch big. That would unlock everything for us while also keeping alot of defensive versatility. But as i stated above.. Draymond is starting to look like the odd man out. And thats a tough decision Dunleavy will have to make. Like you say Unc... the team looks more free when Dray is out. He is starting to handicap us offensively. I think his value right now is as high as its going to be... GET THE DEAL DONE DUNLEAVY!!!

athleticalchemy
>>159443618

well its not just him, it most likely would cost several 1sts, but again if you believe its owed to steph I get it. I wont be mad if they go all in for him. I just not sure how much belief I would have in them contending

Dashaya Toney
>>159443618

I agree in concept, but sadly with Kerr's comments it's never going to happen with him being forced to play within the "system". I think the move is going to be Trade Kuminga + filler for Cam Johnson

Chris Thomas

Yeah Unc! That game was trash I mean even with the late game heroics from Steph I just had no faith. To me our biggest problems are lack of rim protection, Draymond not excepting where he is and Steve Kerr not utilizing everyone he can the right way. Draymond to me needs to be in the GP2 role if we need a stop or some defense have him in the game but other than that Kuminga should be starting over him and then with Kerr he got these players scared to take shots, it’s just asinine

Davion Green

Alch at what point do we sit dray on the bench like we did Iggy n use him as a voice and a 5-10 minute type of guy. If we’re not doing that I think a trade should happen! I’ll live or die by Trace, Loon, and Anderson.

athleticalchemy
>>159443953

My 6th man talk has always been metaphorical.. they will never bring him off the bench unless its a injury. But I do think Kyle is the key to staying out of these 3 guard line ups .

Jose poline

This Lebron vs Steph rivalry is dead man, besides their individual performances there’s nothing exciting about it. First they seem to love each other and second, they’re playing for nothing so idk why the nba keeps selling this as a head to head. Let’s just move on

athleticalchemy
>>159444849

see my post above.. I just dont think his ego will allow for that. Even when they said he is coming off the bench I think he was told "lets just do this rn"

Nick Elliston

I was out for Xmas so didn't get a chance to watch the game until the breakdown. Glad I skipped it. Just a few observations. For Schroeder, I know it's not all on him, but I was always concerned with his fit on the roster due to our lack of athletic bigs who can finish at the rim and floor spacers to open things up for him. While it's only been a few games, the fit problem has been apparent. Can only hope he bounces back. As for the direction they should take if things go south, as much pushback as I know I'll get for saying this, they need to lean more on the youth. As much as I would love for the front office to fix the roster and to see Steph get one more chance at a title, I don't think there's a star currently available on the trade block who's going to change their oucome on the season. For example, Butler would surely cost Wiggins and JK (our only 2 athletic wings) to make a deal work with Miami and, as we've seen so far with Schroeder, how effective will he be with our lack of spacing and finishing unless they also get a Vucevic or Turner-type C in a separate deal? Not to mention he's going to ask for $50 million or more per season on his next deal to go along with his injury history. I'm not saying they shouldn't look into Butler, but even if they get him, he's not going to be the magic fix Dub Nation thinks he'll be.

Chris Thomas
>>159444849

Right one game! and then Steve was like how do we get our defense to look good without Draymond on the court, idk I guess I’ll just put him back in the starting lineup only for the defense to look just as trash with him starting! Dray and Steve need a reality check!

Gary

Appreciate you calling out those failed Steph close outs Alc. The team is no longer sharp. Remember that first month when every national pod was talking about how connected their D was and Buddy was a revelation - it all fell away and the cause is Steph’s knees. He can’t lead by example and the team doesn’t have leadership to overcome it. Good effort anyway. Hope we can make the playin

e40

At no point last night did I think we'd win that game.

Jarell Greer

When you said "there is no easy answer" at the end. I think that's the most important point. There isn't a superstar available to really change things. The best 2 options we hear about are Butler and Ingram. Is gutting the team for either of them really changing a whole lot? I am agreeing that Dray might need to come off the bench. He's a net negative most nights these days.

John Z

Trademond

yan't get right

I really really love the term “Kerr turnover”

Christian Hollaway

Steph isn't helping the young guys? Is this breaking news. Did you just pull that out your ass. Seriously?? Draymond is a problem and has been for a while now. Get rid of him. One of the few points I agree with is his body is shot. Since he has no offensive game he is unplayable at times. He is not helping steph. Kuminga, I'll try to be nice. He has terrible basketball iq. He's super athletic and has very little skill. He cant shoot, he cant pass hes an inefficient mid range player. He doesnt dribbke particularly well. Hes a great dunker. He's a dime a dozen in this league. At the end of the day the front office is to blame. They fucked up in so many ways. Let's start with terrible drafting, did not utilize Chis Paul's or Klay Thompson's contract to get a real trade done. It's a year to late with vert little flexibility. I could go on but I won't.

Nev

I love draymond, but he's cooked. It's time to trade him or put him at the back of the bench

Ejikeme Uzoigwe

The best franchises don’t do stupid things. I think that trading away future assets - most notably the 1sts - to build around a 37 year old in clear decline is objectively stupid. That is, it’s stupid in the same way that going to Vegas and putting your mortgage money on black is stupid. Yes, it might work out, but the chances of success are too low and the cost of failure too high. If I’m wrong and trading future 1sts to build around this version of Steph is actually the smart basketball move, then have at it. But when ppl’s argument is, “we owe it to Steph”, I hear “we owe it to Steph to make a stupid trade.” I don’t agree with that at all. I just don’t think it ever makes sense to be knowingly stupid.

Ejikeme Uzoigwe
>>159447926

To be clear, I’m not saying don’t make any trades or JK is the future or whatever. To my mind, this isn’t about the kids. I’m talking about those firsts - the biggest non-Steph assets the Warriors have. Any trade that doesn’t involve 1sts and doesn’t tie the team up in bad contracts is whatever, as far as I’m concerned.

BruceWayne
>>159443945

JK’s been publicly told by Kerr to pass instead of taking contested shots…we don’t know anything about our scheme, except that it isn’t going to be attack the rim. We should’ve been attacking the rim the entire game against the Pacers. We didn’t. We definitely should’ve attacked against an AD-less Lakers. We didn’t.

Christian Hollaway
>>159443618

I'm curious what system Kuminga would actually thrive in. If you mean have better shooters to space the floor, I agree. That's not a system that's a roster construction issue. I don't see any system out there that is gonna magically improve Kuminga's game. He has massive flaws offensively. Defenses don't care if Kuminga shoots a three. He's also an inefficient midrange shooter. He doesn't have much of a handle to drive around defenders. He's a terrible passer and accept for a few close outs he's a bad positional defender and a terrible rebounder for someone that athletic. If you really think aboubt it, it's not the system it's the player.

Macca

We did play like trash. But the fan base is too harsh on the team, we had 6 finals in 8 years, and won 4 of them. All good things come to an end. Let’s just enjoys Stephs last days.

Ejikeme Uzoigwe
>>159448983

Agreed. Dude has achieved every success a player could ever hope for. I’m not saying it’s “good enough” I’m just saying it’s okay for us as fans to change perspective and expectations for these last few years.

Omer Ali

Honestly the move should be is to trade Draymond. I watched your livestream and you are right, he definitely handicaps the team. The motion offense does not work because Draymond is way too damn predictable.

Omer Ali

If there's a way where we can trade Draymond for someone like Turner or include him in a package for someone like Bam I think that's the move. I don't think the motion offense is an issue but moreso is that Draymond is killing the motion offense with how damn predictable he is and I'm gonna say it rn, his defense has fallen off a cliff this year.

CarlosPT

There is no value in trading Draymond Green. What’s his value? Seriously I think his value is close to Marcus Smart or Ben Simmons.

Steven Stanley

Lakers 18/18 from the line and that was the margin. Sample size is large enough now to say the Warriors are a terrible collection of free throw shooters and that is entirely on the players. Going forward any trade has to include the bad free throw shooters going out and very good free throw shooters coming in.

SAOpp

Haven't seen any of the Ws media question why the Dray 6th man experiment lasted less than a week. Ws would benefit from a Draymond 30 day suspension because Kerr just can't see what everyone else sees. Draymond makes the Ws predictable and no longer makes his team-mates better, even on the defensive side of the ball. The worst part of predictable is that you can count on him to do something stupid late in the game to turn momentum the wrong way.

SAOpp
>>159448983

Steph seems willing to adapt and adjust to make maximize the "enjoyment" of his last days. Doesn't seem like Kerr or Draymond have the ability to adapt and adjust. That's why the fan base is "harshly" frustrated.

Michael E

Sometimes to save the body you need to sever a limb, and right now the team has a case of "gan-green". I'm also ready to move off of Dray. We all knew that his decline would be more rapid than Steph's because of his reliance on physicality, and too many nights he just doesn't have it. Couple that with his all his baggage, his vibe killing, his tantrums, and its time for a change. Yes, it would be the true sign that these are no longer "those" dubs, but its clear that those days are gone, and its time to transform or die.

Goku44

The young players have been underutilized regardless of if they are going to be future all stars or not. Kuminga and Moody were losing minutes to Lamb and Joseph. I didn't buy the argument that Lamb or whomever was playing better cause they weren't winning anyway. And regardless, Kuminga and Moody are going to be on the team in the playoffs and next season. Lamb and Jerome were not. Kerr's half measure coaching has ruined their early years. This is their 4th year and Moody still can't crack 15 minutes. Kuminga plays 30 then 25 then 18 then 32. It was time to crap or get off the pot at the end of last season. It's over. They have no future on this team.

Natto Santo

Draymond was trash. But more importantly, Chef with Dennis is a lineup too small for any NBA team. Chef Waters Wig JK TJD could be the best lineup. Buddy should go to D league and play some games. As bad as Waters, he is better defender and passer than Buddy.

Mike Peterson

Another bad Dray day. Thanks for watching the Lakers so I didn't have to.

Gavin

Forget the young guy. Get them out of here. We got Steph curry on the team man

Neal X
>>159452938

The one move they need to make may be the one move they won't make. We can only hope that letting Klay go made the FO more amenable to the idea that nobody is indispensable.

G 2tha P

Wiggins got blown by - that’s the issue there. He did a poor job of staying in front of Reaves. Also - the only solution for this roster is a superstar player- and there aren’t any available

Edy

I’m tired of Draymond. He should not be starting considering how many dumb turnovers he makes in the first on most nights. The turnovers are down when Kuminga starts and the game seems to flow much better without Draymond being out there with Steph. Like you said, the two man game with Steph and Dray is too predictable. I wouldn’t mind trading him. We have Slo Mo ready to replace him and it would likely free up the young guys and let them play more freely

Jello Smooth
>>159454227

Well said… Kerr seems like he would’ve benched curry or Klay early in there careers because they weren’t ready to dominate - curry bad defense, turnover prone, Klay no dribble, no lay up… play David Lee the vet over draymond

Neal X
>>159450753

The value is getting him off the team. Addition by subtraction like Alch said

Peter Beckler

This same team was the best in the West at one point, playing great defense and decent offence. The only thing that could stop that is fear of being traded when you do a poor job or a feeling that losing is one group's fault.

David Y

I am now of the mind set that the problem is Kerr. I don't think you can yoyo player's minutes this much. 1-2 players, sure. 8 players? None of them can get into a set rhythm, none of them can build on success. I mean, the Kuminga era lasted 2 games. He's a decent coach when you have a ton of talent but then again, I could probably do a halfway decent job too. I'd love to see him set a rotation and just stick with it. Also, seriously, what was that defensive lineup at the end? I know there are no timeouts but do you really keep Curry and Schroeder out there when you need a stop?

Chip Tingle

Continued gratitude, Alch. Gotta disagree on help defense fundamentals for JK. Wiggs was beat (yes, it happens) how far from rim to ask JK to help? Does he make any move toward driver over those 15-20 feet? Nope. But completely agree there were so many brutally ugly plays on both ends to point to, not just the last one by our 22 year old w well known team D issues. (Why no TJD and more D 5 lineup to close? Steph/Dennis ain’t it for that last possession either, as Kerr usually addresses to close most quarters). The Dray details you highlight are the most brutal to watch for me, as he obviously knows better in most cases. I’m with you on viable/meaningful trades involving Dray, sad to say. There’s a win/win deal out there for him, and it’s been time for awhile now despite all his positives and HOF status. Again, sad to say. 🙏

Chip Tingle
>>159457020

Every single player ever gets beaten on drives at some point, and hoops 101 help defense either kicks in…or not.

Chip Tingle
>>159451489

Check Slater in +|- recently, completely going off on this like I’ve never heard him do. But direct question to Kerr, you may be right, dunno.

David Y
>>159462275

You're probably going with: Guard: Steph, Schroeder, Podz. Forwards: Wiggins, Kuminga, Draymond, TJD, Looney. Depending on matchups, you would swap in GPII for Looney if the other team doesn't have a lot of bigs. I could see swapping Buddy for Podz since Schroeder technically can be the backup point. This does leave Moody, Anderson, and Waters in limbo but better 3 in limbo than 6-8. I mean.. Kerr should know better than anyone - he played a very specific role on the Bulls and I would say he was better for it because he knew exactly what was expected out of him.

Chip Tingle
>>159443945

Pass vs contested depending on shot clock? A contested middie will be there at 4-6 secs as much as 12-15 secs.

Chip Tingle
>>159443813

Dray in that role w/o Klay gravity is a thing, too. We all hoped Buddy would fill that Klay slot.

Murugu Venkat
>>159443953

I know you were only being metaphorical but I'd rather 3 blitzed quarters of Steph getting 30 minutes a night than 4 slow ones at 36

Kd127

I’m sorry but, Andrew Wiggins is not irreplaceable Alch lol. He’s playing well but his impactful is it really?

yan't get right
>>159447926

Yeah, the risk here for the org is in moving slow, deliberate and without a thirst for the spotlight. Anyone clamoring for a firesale now to win a chip is actually asking for the least risky thing with the lowest chance for the reward they're looking for

ACowNamedStan

Our issue as a team revolve around draymond. From the rotations, players lack of mins, 3 guards, to not running the big lineup. All to make draymond fit in the offense. We get rid of him, all of that changes for the better

yan't get right

Wild that we've gotten to the same point 2 years in a row. It was at this point last season that everyone in the fanbase hated Klay with a bright red passion and wanted him off the team. Steve Kerr tried his best to soft bench him and it only made things worse. I think it'll take time, but Klay seems like the smart one in all of this. He's got a great new situation with a renewed love for the game. Now, Draymond is on the chopping block for the fanbase. I don't blame the criticism. But, it just hurts to watch. I'm trying my best to not shit on Draymond even though I know he's the issue. He's been one of the most electric personalities in the history of the sport and one of the most innovative talents. I kinda just hope he gets back to loving the game for himself, with or without the Warriors. All of the guys around Steph are fading from the picture. Smh

Kiefer Neo

Honestly we need to start talks on Draymond he's been horrible the past few games

David Post
>>159463085

Yes, fundamental—Kuminga must see man and ball. He could have helped protect the basket on that final play. Seconds ticking down requires him to not allow a shot to get up uncontested. It was a basic defensive play that was missed.

Chaz G

1. Think Draymond needs to come off the bench. He can't summon it enough. Lazy closeouts, horrible turnovers, lazy defense, and no offense. Let him close out if he on, but he's hurting us too much. 2. JK prob needs to start. He not the answer to their woes, but he helps. JK can't be what we need though. Kerr hurts his confidence and he makes boneheaded plays. His biggest limitation is he can't dribble. He has to bulldoze ppl to get where he wants. I wouldn't mind trading him to get a more complete higher IQ player. 3. We can't build for future and keep some young assets. Podz and TJD. The rest should be on chopping block to get Curry some help.

A L
>>159463085

It looked like he did move to help wiggs but was a couple steps late. Did he miss the help assignment, yes, but nearly as egregious as you’re all making it out to be.

Ed S
>>159471118

I kind of wish they could give away Draymond right now. I think it would help to clarify things. Stop pretending the old system is just a middling star trade away.

Johnny Marko

im sorry, wiggins getting blown by by austin reeves is the problem here. not kuminga. wiggins is supposed to be an all defensive player and we should treat him as such. he had a length and athletic advantage over his matchup and he got beat. it happens

Dale Happy Knowles

Alc you say it then you pull it back. Your eyes and sensors are not fooling you. There is a suggestion that, "If you want to know why your people are not performing well, step up to the mirror and take a peek." ~ Ken Blanchard This team played lights out for 15 odd games including the preseason. Since ... Why? Talent and skill ain't gone no where. It's the intangibles. Biggest of all every player was highly charged believe and hope that they could beat anyone. Consider the fallacy in moving Klay was that he really was not an equal piston in causing the extreemly high reving 4 cylinder engine to pur. 1. Kerr 2. Steph 3. Klay 4. Dray Klay was to the offense what Dray was to the defence in compensating for what Steph needed to excell at his apex. Kerr steered the ship. Remove Klay and substitute not one, not two but ... players in Buddy, Slow Mo, and Melton coupled with the blossoming of the youth and Bam!, championship contenders. Of the 3 remaining, only one is not compensating with the times. Steph more dominant in the clutch to compensate for father time. Dray shooting 3s to compensate for father. time. Kerr 😧 All his adjustments after Terry and Stack additions proved to be the catalyst that ignited the high octane performance but what are we doing? Giving Kerr a pass and point fingers everywhere where players are failing is missplaced attention. I would embrace the players as the challenge if it was one or two but it's all including Steph so it has to be Coaching and the system, the game plan, line ups, adjustments, .... Two notes besides the obvious of not establishing JK as the go to when Steph takes brakes, which is mind boggling to hear Kerr send cryptic messages for JK to pass the ball and not shoot. 1. Kerr took out TJD right when we caught up and then LA extended the lead. No more rim protection. 2. Kerr repeated same with JK. No more scoring until he put JK back in due to the imbalance. TJD and JK are young beast who need to and can play the entire 4th quarter if the game calls for it. I have said it before Wiggs is the lightest of the 5 - JK, TJD, Dray, Steph then Wiggs. If you take out JK or TJD for DM we become high-school light relatively speaking and it makes no sense particularly against a 6' 10" 250 lbs freight train who can fade away when needed. Against light players LBJ fade and 3pt becomes lethal not to mention the confidence his support becomes. Kerr needs to listen to what the mirror is telling him or move one to join Bob.

Dale Happy Knowles
>>159479926

Wiggs had a mental lapse as a drive by was the last thing anyone would have expected Reeves to try, particularly the way he was flinging 3s. Wiggs over compensated on the 3 bug that play did not win the game. I put it to this chat that it was the play call to end the game that did. Steph, and Buddy can shoot from 90 ft. Why all the sharp shooters were not in the game and all on the inbound half of the court to run a 3 pt half court play for the win. Putting all those players in the front had no relevance on the play. This and all the other bad decissions Kerr made is why he gets the L. You can't keep preaching who needs to be better when you bare regressing in your duties.

Dale Happy Knowles
>>159463085

Why trad Dray b4 fire Kerr. If Kerr is not fixed it does not matter if we TRADE for Gnnis, it wll mot make difference while Kerr dysfunctional coaching of the present team. Why Slow Mo, Moddy and Waters out of th rotation? Why distrust Buddy glow Why play sea saw with JK and TJD minds and critical playing times if you profess they are the answer yet call Podski great with open door to play? GSW will not reduce JK value this off-season so they need to decide he is in or trade him. All they doing is digging a deeper grave for him to bury them in.

Elvis

Yo Alc, would love to see a video of you showing us what the Warriors were doing in the first 12 games compared to now. Because i feel like this is a completely different team than what we started with ..

ntare rugamba

Warriors defense has fallen off a cliff…there’s no accountability, it’s sad to see…dray and steph have little to no impact or energy on that end….they need a lot more vets….

U-tube

I just don't understand with AD out, why doesn’t Draymond guard LeBron? Would've took away the need to double. Wiggins is a great defender but Bron too big for him. If Dray can man to man with a young Zion, no reason he can't do that with an old Lebron

B Master

win or lose i'm looking forward to a game with the youngsters. hopefully draymond rests.

B Master
>>159499037

hey mike brown is on the market maybe we get him or stotts to take the reigns.

Chip Tingle
>>159463085

Why Dray? Because he’s no longer a net positive on O, no need to guard him, and he would actually bring back value in a deal. Add that he’s trending downward while being in the same 4 position as JK, and it’s a tough one to figure out. I’m more open than ever to trading him for the right return. Kerr? I don’t put much of team’s downfall on him. Roster is suspect after losing Melton. How have Buddy n SloMo played? Have kids made a serious positive step besides JK? Meaning obvious and able starters/closers/high minutes guys? Only one night, but when Buddy/Wiggs/Shröder go 7-30 together, Dubs lose.

Dale Happy Knowles
>>159499037

I believe they brought in Terry to take over but not until Kerr contract expires. I love me some Brown and the Brown, Scott's, Stack combo would be deadly as all three are highly respected by the pkayers but that's more $$$$ to make happen.

Irritated Inanimate

Kuminga's dunk on two defenders was the turning point for him, now he knows he’s him.