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When Grief Is Hijacked | Sacred Symbols+, Episode 405

Please welcome renowned actor and game studio head Abubakar Salim to Sacred+. You may know Salim best for his roles in shows like House of the Dragon, Raised by Wolves, and Jamestown, Ridley Scott's Napoleon film, and even in games like Assassin's Creed Origins and World of Warcraft. But he recently came to my (Colin's) attention because of his studio Surgent's first game, a delightful EA Originals-published Metroidvania called Tales of Kenzera: Zau. I really liked it, ended up Platinuming it, and then shared a Sacred Symbols clip on social media talking about my experience. This got his attention, and ultimately we were able to get in touch and put this episode together. I wanted to talk to Abubakar not about the ins-and-outs of his game specifically, but rather about the completely unearned chaos that seemed to surround it post-release. A lot of the negativity came off to me as forced, misdirected, and -- at worst -- racist. After all, this is a game about loss, grief, and overcoming a terrible tragedy, and has nothing to do whatsoever with race, gender, politics, or pretty much any other potential and predictable third rail. But listening to much of the outside narrative, you would think quite the opposite was true.

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Josh P

This was a great listen, such an interesting guy. looking forward to the next time he can come back!

Dio Lixzon

This was dope, definitely gonna check out the game

hamish-k

I love him as bayek in assassin's creed, it was the first time i heard of him. from all the interviews I've seen of him makes me appreciate him more, he seems like a really awesome guy and grounded he seems like a good guy to hangout with. I've got the already I'm looking forward to playing it

John King

A truly wonderful conversation.

Pyo

Great episode! Loved the game too, got the platinum

Misko 1023

This dude was chill af

Edwin Juarez

GENUINELY one of the most important conversations about gaming currently. Bring this man back whenever he makes another game.

George Edkins

Amazing convo, the effort Colin puts in to reaching out and making connections shows.

Nick Gagas

Good get! Abubakar is a phenomenal actor. First took notice of him in "Raised by Wolves". Check it out if you haven't; great sci-fi, standout performance. “House of Dragons" is also top-notch. He works with Ridley Scott quite a bit. Ridley knows talent. This is the kind of content is essential. Keep up the exceptional work!

Robot Booty

Great conversation, thank you for bringing some nuance to an era that has become increasingly vapid.

Miguel Siguenza

Loved raised by wolves and love house of the dragon … great get interview

Guybrush Threepwood

Interesting guest! and I recognize him from House of Dragon. Really good episode, Colin. Thank you both for doing this.

Festizio

This is probably my favorite episode of sacred symbols+. Great guest and interview!

Gonçalo Pereira

I have to say, this was a great conversation. Congratulations to you both. Once again comes a episode that makes me really happy I’m able to support Last Stand on Patreon ✌️

KeanuReeve

Abubakar is such a cool guy, and Kenzera Zau was a phenomenal game! I platinumed it as well, and was moved to tears numerous times throughout. It is a brilliant, heartful and personal tale, and I think it stands to help many others through their own grief as well. It is a complete and utter shame that the discourse surrounding it has been diluted by close-minded sentiment and lack of willingness to engage. Herd mentality and the Internet are a dangerous mix. Thanks Colin for having Abubakar on and giving him a chance to express himself at length! I wish all the best for him and his continued success in both industries.

Joseph Abraham

What a great interview and truly a lovely guy to hear from. Hope he’s back on the podcast sometime! This was truly great!

ArunWyn

I'm so glad I watched this, it completely changed my mind about this game and Colin is right. There are games shoving agendas down our throats but this isn't one of them.