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After years of hard work (and tons of external speculation), Sony-owned developer Bungie has finally revealed gameplay from and tons of details concerning its next project, Marathon. An extraction shooter that will be sold for a mid-range price ($40 seems to be the going guess), reactions to the project have been mixed. Does a large market for a game like this exist? Is the cost of entry too prohibitive? Is it DOA like Concord? Honestly, we feel like a lot of people are overreacting one way or another, but one thing's for sure: For some, any payment is too much. Speaking of cash-money, prices for PlayStation 5 hardware and/or PS+ subscriptions alike are going up in various parts of the world, including Europe, Australia, and Canada. Is Sony trying to inoculate itself from American tariff threats by exploiting safer markets? Or are global currencies and economies really doing that poorly? Amongst other news comes, of course, listener inquiries. As Clair Obscur: Expedition 33 draws ever-nearer, what's our collective gut-check? Could rumors of a Prototype 3 actually be real? Have we gotten to the point where trashing games has become tropey? Are we closer than ever to discovering the identity of the woman who was crying in the bathroom during Sacred 200?Timestamps:0:00:00 - Intro

0:30:49 - Sacred is here for you

0:33:24 - Crying woman revealed

0:37:55 - Sacred Lore

0:48:38 - More Sacred dating advice

0:58:59 - Marathon revealed

1:52:25 - PS5 price increase in certain regions

2:18:44 - Last of Us Season 2's strong start

2:23:05 - Oblivion remake is real

2:35:32 - Chronos: The New Dawn

2:41:38 - Minecraft movie domination

2:45:24 - Ubisoft making an Apex Clone

2:50:23 - What We’ve Been Playing (Blue Prince, Death Stranding, Indiana Jones and the Great Circle)

3:13:40 - Clair Obscur gutcheck

3:18:00 - Most toxic fanbase

3:24:09 - Fan service complaints

3:39:21-  Prototype 3 rumors

3:46:55 - New Naughty Dog game?

3:49:36 - Final gaming experiences

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Toretto

Elite song reference with the title!

Meatball

Gonna edge all day to the Sacred Boys

Joshua Jones

As a house painter. I pressure wash a lot and just gotta say, just use the black tip to put soap on and then use the green tip to blast it off it. You'll be fine. The red tip is for concrete, and the yellow tip is just stay away from very easy.

Bogey

I was gonna comment about how it seems like Colin doesn’t like the audience very much when he was talking about the discord, then he had a write in bitching about too much TLOU talk this week and I’m like…yeah I get it Colin.

Murderer Kevin

Can't wait for the segment about PlayStation prices increasing across the world and hear Colin try to act like the American government have the faintest idea what they're doing. From business insider "President Donald Trump said there may be a point where he doesn't want to put higher tariffs on China because the move could deter buying." 🤣 This guy man fml never thought I'd route for china but America suckkkkkks these days man

NUTSO JIMBO

Ah my weekend can begin. Looking forward to hearing the response to Marathon and the PS5 price increases in Europe.

sotelo74

Love that Kingstons dad could make an appearance on sacred today

Unemployable troon

That’s a long winded way of saying you have only one hobby and you’re poor

Murderer Kevin

Lol I've already got a PS5 it's not affecting me personally for now but it's an example of how braindead the US has become. The amount of good will they've blown in a matter of weeks is staggering and their economy is gonna suffer. The amount of shit the US imports from china is laughable, they aren't gonna make it all themselves are they 🤣

Big titty drinker

As someone who has never been interested in anything bungie has ever made I found the gameplay reveal to be very generic for marathon. I don’t play multiplayer games but when I saw helldivers I was atleast interested and ended up playing for a few months. I’m playing through cyberpunk 2077 (incredible game btw ) and to me the art style of marathon came off as a weak rip off. Gameplay looked generic and boring to me. Even if this was single player it still would not have moved me with that that knock off art style and bland looking gameplay. This is the studio that was in charge of giving the Naughty Gods advice ……………? Just lol 😂 give me a fucking break they can’t even make thier own compelling game. Get these fucking clowns out of my presence at once 😭😂

Unemployable troon

Oh cool, so you’re a market and economy expert? Why are you wasting your time whining on a PlayStation podcast comment section then? Doesn’t it get exhausting every week whining into the void about things none of us have control over?

Murderer Kevin

Now that is an extremely valid point. We have no control over it, this is a PlayStation podcast comment section and this is totally pointless so agreed. Apologies

Vladimir Grabbinmikov

I think the shadowdrop is meant to not market a remake of an iconic fantasy game right after they launched avowed. Basically to not shit on obsidian. I don’t think there’s a possibility Oblivion remake will suck but then again MCC.

Unemployable troon

Yeah you’re one of the people who wanna whine and complain constantly making it as insufferable here as the lsm discord is, I can promise you nobody here cares about your political opinions/gripes or your personal economical situation

Deemac

That was such a fucking ridiculous write in too. Oh boohoo, the 2 *additional* shows don't interest me, I gotta write in and complain. Get a grip ffs. Also like even referencing Gene saying on Punching Up that he's been playing TLOU, is everyone supposed to coordinate each week so that they don't talk about one game too much? Like Chris said, right now is one of the times TLOU is most relevant, of course it's gonna be talked about

DD

I can’t wait to get my big sweaty gamer hands on that Marathon alpha

Big titty drinker

They time stamp the podcast. Just skip that part Jesus Christ

Gabriel Prégent Terborch

Saying we have no control over it is a great way to absolve of their responsibility those who voted for this clown show.

Unemployable troon

I am getting exactly what I voted for, and I’d do it again just to spite people like you honestly

Mike1core

I’m not getting marathon because Bungie fucked up my chance at playing factions 2

Tanner Triv

Big fan of the change of having all the news up front

Walk Forward Cutscene

As someone who loves Halo and a former Destiny addict, I was also unimpressed.

GameSimp

The last of us 2 knockback episode was objectively one of the best deep dives of a single video game ever, don’t listen to the haters guys

Lucas Hixon

Great ep! My only piece of feedback is that I do miss the news write-ups. They set the stage for discussion and were always enjoyable for me. Thanks!

JT

Colin’s a great news writer too so I missed his run down.

Moistescarjoe

Marathon? More like Brat summerthon AM I RIGHT?

WhatDarrenPlays

The news format is what I would consider to be the main draw to Beyond, PSILoveYou and now Sacred. Of course once you listen for a while you grow to really get to know the guys and enjoy many other aspects. But the news rundown and how its presented has always been the USP of Colin’s podcast imo.

Devon!

Now that you mention it, the AI Audit was only from the last few weeks, from a few channels. So a small set from data, and definitely POST-Purge. What I can do is pull a much larger data set, and then run it again. I have an idea for the lore thing, I'll reach out.

Rusty Shackleford

You guys used the sacred symbols plus logo in the thumbnail. Tighten up guys. Tighten up.

Robbie Agnew

Wild episode my goodness gracious

Uvula Smack

I have a power washer mostly for my car, 1800 psi will not hurt anything around your house Colin. Just get one of those and you have no chance of hurting anything.

GrzzlyWzrd

Colin, please just go to the chiropractor. I’m sick of hearing about your back pain when it could’ve been remedied weeks ago from a good chiropractor. I know you were shitting on chirps a few months ago but dude you’ve gotta just get your low back adjusted and you’ll feel so much better. Physical therapy is a waste of time. They’re going to give you simple core exercises that you can just learn on YouTube in 5 minutes. All you’ve gotta do is a couple sets of planks and bird dogs twice a day and get adjusted by a GOOD chiropractor, ideally a Motion Palpation Institute trained chiropractor. My dad’s a chiropractor and I’ve heard from so many people how much he helped them get out of pain and avoid surgeries. It works. You’ve just gotta be careful. There are a ton of really bad chiropractors out there. Find a good one through the motion palpation institute website. Please do yourself a favor and go to the damn chiropractor.

Murderer Kevin

May I ask what it is you voted for, what do you want out of this government?

Murderer Kevin

Very interesting as my physio is superb but you're right they must manipulate you physically or it's pointless. A physio that just gives you exercises is a wasted of time

Robert Friemering

"Memories fade in to poetry." Chris dropping Knowledge!!

Deemac

FFS, cancelling my patreon sub now

Zack E

Man I hate to just complain, I’ve had to complain a few things recently like the unified feed Why…why in the world Colin are you changing your news format???? Why???? Please ffs lol It’s great! It allows you to write material! You are a good writer! And why is the format changing at all in order of operations? lol Jesus

Busting on an iPhone Duo and clapping it shut

I need a Summon Sign X Snark Tank episode. We’re so close. Brad knows about them, they know about it, I’m just not sure they know they can just kinda self-invite lol. We gotta keep pushing for it.

Black Detective in Dexter

"Concord didn't fail because it was woke"- Colin. Come on man. What are we doing here? I don't like Grummz or that whole crowd either but it absolutely did fail because it was woke AND because it was boring and had bad characters. These things are not mutually exclusive. But it absolutely did fail because of wokeness. The masses are over that shit and people are done being nice about it for the fear of being "canceled". That shit is over.

Black Detective in Dexter

He just needs to buy a pull up bar and do dead hangs every day for 1-2 minutes. That fixes almost all back and shoulder problems.

FlynnTaggartGuy

Summon Sign probably is the right venue for it

start a infection

That write in about toxicity, thanks for suggesting the best community imaginable with civilization

JT

🛌

PairOfShuse

I do think people downplay that the ‘wokeness” didn’t kill the game. They don’t realize that the entire vibe and art style come from a base level with wokeness involved. That doesn’t mean that “oh there are women and different ethnicities”. What it means is the mindset of the people creating these games made extremely ugly characters. I’m not talking them needing to be half naked. But they looked intentionally ugly which adds to the design being entirely unappealing to anyone. All the characters even had pronouns. Doesn’t anyone actually think that they just decided at the last moment to add pronouns to characters? No, they thought of that from the design phase and it influenced how the characters would look. The whole visual identity was made with this type of mindset.

Tyler Stafford

Weak ripoff of cyberpunk? You can't discern between artsyles very well.

PairOfShuse

The talk about Asmongold was so disingenuous. I’m going to keep thinks respectful but it clearly shows Chris tries to play things off like he’s being balanced but he clearly doesn’t like Asmongold at all. How do I know? Because what Asmongold actually said was clearly misrepresented on purpose (or he just saw a headline and didn’t watch the clip). What he said was, mostly men are going to be playing shooters and yes he said just make the characters “fuckable” - then he says right after “clearly that’s what people want” and goes on to explain his point of view is coming from the success of Marvel Rivals (ironically which Chris then talks about how he thinks a character is hot - it’s almost like it’s ok if he thinks gaming characters are hot, but if anyone else talks about them, they are gooner). He also goes on to explain that women cosplay these characters too and NONE of them cosplay unattractive or ugly characters, which is 100 percent true. Hell, a lot of these cosplayers take things that aren’t sexual at all and make them sexual (which actually annoys me). But he was speaking from a marketing standpoint that games like Marvel Rivals sell. I wasn’t a fan of Asmongold before because all I ever heard was he’s disgusting and a bigot etc, then I actually listened to some of his videos and he comes across as a perfectly normal person. At least from what I saw, he isn’t out there threatening and stalking people like Alyssa Mercante, who for some unknown reason, has been defended on this podcast. Just sorta rubbed me the wrong way given the talk of toxicity lately, yet Asmongold gets shit on for a pretty tame comment, and one that wasn’t even represented accurately. Maybe try to get him as a guest on the show? Might be a cool guest for Colin. I bet they would agree on a lot

Stanley Stoopish

Colin, the official Marathon reveal trailer with 22m views was artificially inflated via plugins and google ads. Suggested organically closer to 3-4m views.

Wall bouncing in WW1

Just wanted say thank you guy s for the timestamps sometimes I press the progress bar and go to random spot in the show on accident. The timestamps make it very easy to deal with this

Jeff in NOLA

Last of Us fans are the most toxic. They take it as a personal affront if you don’t think they are the greatest games ever

AL022

Doesn't seem to be what any of them said. I think you have it backwards.

AL022

On the format, I don't mind the reorganization of the show, but as someone who now doesn't spend as much time reading the details outside of the show, I always found Colin's write-ups enormously helpful to remind me of all the relevant facts around the story. I don't understand why ppl complain about this, just hit the skip :30 button if you don't want to hear it. I appreciated your efforts to bring all the relevant info to the discussion!

AL022

From someone with a physical therapist wife, this is so wrong if you find the right PT. Chiropractors are snake oil salesman who just want to get you hooked on going for the rest of their lives. And what they do can be dangerous given their level of schooling. Core exercises are important because not using the right muscles in your body when doing everyday tasks is exactly what leads to exasrerbating injuries. Chiropractors are quick fixers (like using a diet pill), but PT if done right and you follow the advice will actually fix the problem.

Jeff in NOLA

I’m responding to the question at the end of the show about most toxic fan bases; not what they opened with

Daniel Martinez

Just a small correction. The price of the PS5 slim in Mexico is 11,000 MXN. That is 551.64. In Mexico the price that they show on the store already includes tax and everything else. You don’t have to add tax or anything, that is the final price.

Knightsofray

Also have a Physical Therapist wife and can attest that physical therapy >> chiropractors

Matthew Cooper

PairofShuse is absolutely correct. A culture of toxic positivity is a hallmark of left wing groupthink. Just ignore reality and say everything is great. Be kind, don't criticize or be negative about anything, that's mean. Well, you can't ignore reality forever, and the longer you try the worse it will be. Eventually reality will smack you, like when you release the game and 5 people buy it.

Adam Barnes

Did you use ‘a’ instead of ‘an’ as a targeted attack at me? How dare you.

start a infection

Startaninfection was taken on aim 20 years ago and I hate numbers and characters so I stuck with this ever since on pretty much everything

DIS-Bee

UughhWHAAAT

Daniel

The order of show changing makes 1000% sense. It makes no sense to have small news, what they’re playing and then more news. Keeping the news together and sandwiching the games talk between the write-in’s makes it flow better.

Andre Ordonez

That fallout alien clip killed me 😂😂😂

Link

I’m sorry, but a 1800 psi pressure washer is absolutely useless for most pressure washing applications. If you’re in the market for a pressure washer don’t buy anything under 4500 psi unless you only intend on lightly cleaning your vehicle.

Matthew Skora

For the love of god, please don’t change the write-ups for the larger news items. I always appreciate the insight and the background Colin provides in those write ups. That would be such a bad change for literally no good reason.

Unemployable troon

Pro deportations, pro tariffs, anti dei. I’m just waiting till I get tired of winning

Murderer Kevin

May I ask why you're pro tariffs ? I can understand where the logic for the other 2 come from but the tariff situation makes no sense to me

Unemployable troon

This isn’t really the place to have a political debate, it’s a PlayStation podcast. And that’s assuming I would wanna be bothered with you to begin with. But the switch 2’s price was not what I was thinking or care about when I went to the ballot box

Murderer Kevin

I'm not talking about tariffs on the switch 2 I'm talking about in general but honestly your answer sounds like a good excuse not to answer the question so I'll leave it there

Born-Blind

Anyone else have the YouTube link not work this week? It keeps telling me to sign in and confirm I'm not a bot. Tried logging in and out again of both YouTube and Patreon

Born-Blind

I'm pumped for doom. Hoping they have good ray tracing like the last one

Gray

Totally agree, Asmon is the most balanced and honest streamer.

PairOfShuse

I was surprised listening to a few videos because you hear especially now how he’s this far right mouth piece and he isn’t at all. He just doesn’t happen to be slightly left of the far left so anything gets labeled far right. He gives his takes and he can be really respectful of people as well. He doesn’t seem like this horrible person. The funny thing is, he gets labeled as such when all the people he used to be in a company with seem to always have drama going on, hanging out with terrible people, go on video and talk about essentially how being white isn’t great, etc. Im like, and you call him the bad one? Because he likes to stay home and keep to himself for the most part? Yeah he had horrible hygiene and living conditions and I don’t follow him closely but hasn’t he addressed that recently?

Uvula Smack

I mean, it’s pretty useful around my house? Like sure it’s not that powerful but I have actually used it to great effect all over.

Zack E

That is fair the change of order of news and what not seems fine. But the more detailed news writes up are great and will be dearly missed

Zack E

Any complaint about the news write up should truly be interpreted in they just don’t like this show. I have a hard time believing all of a sudden there is a large group of people who don’t like the news write ups Colin does considering he’s done them for 15 years.

AL022

Fair

Big titty drinker

I’m sorry but it screamed “I played cyber punk let’s mirror that in a multiplayer setting.”

Big titty drinker

Elden ring / fromsoft fans are the most toxic in my opinion. They try to compare everything to it even if it doesn’t make any sense to. And god forbid you think it’s just an okay game they damn near shit their pants in anger 😭. 90% of them only like the game because it gives them some weird sense of superiority/ sophistication in terms of taste. lol that entire base is so fucking cringe it’s unbearable 😂😂🙄

Ahlickaloo

Both of you are right. Find the right chiropractor to align your body then strengthen the weak muscles to prevent it from falling out of place again.

Gooch Gobbler

Outside of the use of yellow, I don't really see any similarities to Cyberpunk

Gooch Gobbler

Man you guys could not be more wrong about HBO. Common Side Effects Chris? You mentioned that show several times. The Rehearsal, Hacks, the Pitt, Righteous Gemstones, White Lotus, almost all the recent A24 movies all within the last month. Meanwhile Apple has had like 2 good shows this year

Michael Rogers

The funniest joke this episode was Dustin asking if Colin would want to power wash his own home. People from Long Island don't even clean their own homes, let alone power wash, landscape, etc. That's what peasants are for, meaning anyone not from Long Island lol.

Kid-Organic

Chris: @2:07:30, try program your sound system to utilize HDMI CEC, then you should be able to use any remote for sound system. Works for my Marantz

Adam Barnes

Elon lives rent free in Chris’ head.

Adam Barnes

What about Siege? I’ve got a couple thousand hours and it’s not for the weak 😅

Bailey Callis

In the relationship segment, very typical of Colin to essentially say "if its not easy, move on" and Dustin to say "some battles are worth fighting, despite struggle" Expect nothing less from a vehement from software enjoyer

Bailey Callis

Asmongold shares a lot of the same sentiments that Colin does, he's just a lot more blunt about it. Chris just hates on all the people that his groups supposed to

Bailey Callis

Man, let's just be real. After all the chaos and turmoil that bungies been through as of late, that showcase was nowhere near what they needed to hit, I'd even say it was a low key disaster. Bungies in trouble man, we all used to have way higher expectations for the bungie brand

Walk Forward Cutscene

Chris gets all his opinions from Hasan, so it’s not a surprise

Ahlickaloo

Lords of the Fallen devs: “The women will look like women”

Ryan Hayman

Speaking as a Canadian, yes, our currency has devalued in relation to USD to the point where $110CAD is $80USD. Why this is terrible for Canada is we used to be on par. In 2010, $80USD = $80CAD. Our wages have increased roughly the same amount as in the US, but everything in our country now costs 45% more than in US, in real wages. Thats why we bitch about it; not because we don't understand that larger numbers are psychologically affecting our perception of value, but because everything now costs a larger % of our wage.

Jacob Lesperance

I get fascinated when people talk about their countries debt spending and then vote for the person who has added the most to the debt, lol. Its like for me in Canada, saying my number 1 concern is the debt and then voting for the liberals again. Just a funny observation, and not necessarily about anyone on the show. Just made me realize how much I actually hear it in my day to day. Great show as usual boys.

Bailey Callis

Feeling like the boys getting a bit prudish here. There's clearly a demand for more attractive woman in games lately, just look at the response to a lot of these eastern games recently compared to the western ones in this specific regard. Let's not play dumb, sex still sells, why do we have to get on our high horses and shame people for wanting more attractive characters?

Bi-curious Pigbaby

Agreed. I think anyone who disagrees is just obviously virtue signaling.

Gabe

I completely agree. The structure this show provides is one of the things that makes it more appealing than other shows.

Gabe

Just want to comment real quick to give feedback about the news write ups. I personally would like things to stay as they are currently structured, but I understand wanting to bunch up the news together. However, please don’t get rid of the longer write ups. It’s one of the things that makes you guys stand out, sparks discussion, and it’s one of my favorite segments. I’m sure the write ups would be missed.

Ahlickaloo

I’m in the middle on this. If a dev has ultimate creative freedom when it comes to character design, then why not make the character attractive? On the other hand, I’m prudish to hardcore boobs and butts floppin out in time for their close ups

Hippopotamus Anonymous

If Trails fans are toxic, then Kingdom Hearts fans belong in a nuclear waste treatment facility is all I’m saying. It’s only video games where people think it’s toxic to say you should play a story driven series in release order to really get it. Never heard anyone say it‘a cool to read Return of the King before at least Fellowship or Two towers, but for whatever reason, it somehow shouldn’t matter for video games. Sort it out, Dustin. Yes, I understand the irony of my comment. Yes, I’m a gatekeeper and maybe a little toxic, but I’m proud of it (and not all that serious, because who ACTUALLY cares about this stuff?).

Bailey Callis

Totally see that and agree, I enjoyed the novelty and amusement of having with Stellar blade, but definitely wouldn't want it in probably most games. Just get a bit tired of the boring argument that wanting more attractive characters in games makes you an incel or a weirdo when it's obviously a perfectly normal and natural thing to enjoy

Ahlickaloo

Yeah the gooner incel name calling stuff is tired when it doesn’t fit the argument we’re making. I would bet those same name callers watch corn anyway

Bailey Callis

One day they're the most sex positive people ever, next day they're sex shaming prudes, it's all very tiresome

Beezlebozo

Can you add a time stamp where dustin talks about time stamps