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While the Xbox console brand continues to wane, Microsoft's wise pivot to third party publishing is already paying dividends. According to recent financial reports, Xbox is now PlayStation's single biggest publishing partner, dominating PSN's very own pre-order and pre-load charts on the backs of Forza Horizon 5, Indiana Jones and the Great Circle, and Doom: The Dark Ages, not to mention strong performance across its brands, from Activision Blizzard's Call of Duty to Mojang's Minecraft and beyond. It's weird, to be sure, but predictable, too: These one-time rivals are now intrinsically linked, with both sides benefiting mightily from this new normal. With Halo, Gears, Fable, and virtually everything else Xbox-related no doubt en route to PlayStation 5 as we move forward, how deep and fruitful can this new, unusual relationship become? Plus: Long-in-development China Hero Project darling Lost Soul Aside gets delayed, Borderlands 4 experiences the extremely rare move-up in release date, Electronic Arts lays off hundreds and cancels projects at Respawn, and more. Then: Listener inquiries! Is it high-time for Sony to explore asymmetrical sticks for its controllers? Does PC gaming represent an existential threat to the console space? Should Sony tap Chinese mega-studio Virtuos to revive its old IP? Are we willing to endorse the new term "remakester?"Timestamps:

0:00:00 - Intro  

0:22:22 - Girl crying in the bathroom Part 3?  

0:23:58 - Hi Jimi  

0:24:35 - Sacred Wives  

0:26:14 - Best man's speech gone wrong  

0:38:04 - nerd slop  

0:44:09 - Xbox is PlayStation's top publisher  

1:07:11 - Lost Soul Aside delayed  

1:13:25 - Borderlands 4 release date moved up  

1:21:17 - EA and Respawn layoffs  

1:35:38 - Video game sales numbers  

1:39:18 - New PS+ essential games  

1:49:36 - Split Fiction movie  

1:53:23 - Until Dawn original writers not credited in the movie  

1:59:07 - Polygon is done, Giant Bomb next likely  

2:05:26 - What We’ve Been Playing  

2:07:43 - Marathon  

2:34:20 - Clair Obscur: Expedition 33  

3:00:05 - Dualsense with asymmetric sticks  

3:07:50 - Virtuos remakes  

3:15:29 - Remakester  

3:20:24 - Goofy games we liked  

3:31:42 - PlayStation's future errors  

3:39:27 - The best case scenario for the big three going forward  

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AL022

GTA 6 news dropped at such an unfortunate time

Michael McCoy

They need to record an extra segment for the GTA6 delay 🤣

Quinn

Rockstar just HAD to wait for this morning for the announcement, lol.

Zachary

Shout out Trupanion!!! Stoked to keep hearing you give them props Collin. If you want a Trupanion ep you could interview my sister who has been with the company for 15 years now.

Michael Welter

Surprised they didn't record a pickup to add on. Guess it can wait until next week though.

Diddy’s Lube Guy

Come join my subreddit exclusively dedicated to shitting on this specific episode.

Cloud

Colin's brain is an absolute enigma. He refuses to produce niche correctly because we "anglicize words" in English, but then he also refuses to pronounce "forte" as "fort" even though that would be the anglicized pronunciation of the word. And they're both French words! Just pure, unadulterated silliness coming from this man lmao

Jackie Rheu

Lol I still play my 360 like crazy

Tyrone Yhip

God I fuckin love everytime they go off on Star Wars. I'm in tears laughing my ass off at work here.

Big titty drinker

That new arc game looks way cooler and more interesting to play than marathon. If it gets PVE I might actually play it for a little bit like I did with helldivers.

james glenn roten

Colin! If you see this you should go back and watch Pitch Black because the creature design in that movie is waaayyyy to similar to the Clickers in The Last of Us!!!

FlynnTaggartGuy

Dustin, gotta give you flowers this episode you had me cracking up.

FlynnTaggartGuy

It was especially funny this time. Enjoyed the ROTS re-release like a dork nonetheless.

Tyrone Yhip

Oh most definitely, I went to theaters to rewatch it like I did originally back in 2005.

Michael Rogers

I'm with Colin, as soon as I heard Dustin say "souls..." on Summon Sign, all my interest in Expedition 33 went out the window. I'm tired of pattern puzzle boss fight simulators. Yes, you're superior for having Pattern recognition like every person ever. It's crazy how much that community puffs their chest out for having pattern recognition lol.

Ricardo Chavez

So I have been checking the leaderboard for FH5 and yeah it already did go up by 1 million players in the span of 8 days. From 25th to the 28th which was early access that number went up by 400k players in that time frame.

Dante B

I’m not a car game guy either. In fact I haven’t really been into one since Ridge Racer 4 (R4) on PSone. But I am absolutely loving Forza Horizon 5. Unbelievably good.

Wayde

Its not a soul's game It has some elements like parrying but that's it tbh

Daniel Navarro

OMG Chris, I moved to Yonkers when my son was born 7 and a half years ago. I went to the Burger King by Cross County for the first time last week and i was shocked at how good it was. When you started talking about the good Burger King by you i said to myself, I bet its the Cross County one.

Dante B

It’s not even remotely souls. Just like Chris invokes Halo/Bungie basically any time he talks about any game. Buy with confidence.

Big titty drinker

Just curious. Does anyone else skip the “what we are playing” section of the podcast? I don’t like having my personal opinion polluted with others peoples for a game I’m actively playing or gonna play. So generally speaking for any game that I have not beaten I ignore all comments on until I’m done as much as I can to form my own authentic opinion and not be influenced by the echo chamber

Breno Bezerra Bluhm

You guys should definetly watch Conclave. It’s a great movie!

Tyrone Yhip

I think youre focusing on a partial aspect of the souls community. Many souls players are guilty of what you say, however an even bigger section of the same community are the total opposite (me included). We encourage and would love more people to play souls games, if they dont dig it then fair enough. Least they gave it a go. It seems only the negative folks in the souls community get highlighted every time, not realizing there's actually a fuck to of us who are the opposite.

PairOfShuse

Great show overall as usual Regarding Polygon. Good riddance. Kotaku will be next. These gaming websites decided to constantly berate gamers, talk down to them, try and shame them and then use their time courting people who align with extreme left ideology. Most of those people don’t even play games or read their articles - hence exhibit A: Polygon. Zero sympathy for those people. I would if they would have actually just did the job they were meant to do, but they chose to dig their own grave.

Aaron

Maybe you just like 3rd person baby games?

BigDumbStupidIdiot

Calling Expedition 33 a souls-like is the brain rot talking. The combat has QTE's to dodge and parring. It's not like you're rolling for I-frames or managing a stamina bar

Michael

Expedition 33 is going wild. Hype somewhat reminds me of Baldurs Gate 3.

Chris Church

I think Colin is wrong about ALL Burger Kings are bad now. The BK in my town has always been 100% awesome except maybe for the fries always not being hot.

Danio

I'm not skipping it all the time but when there's a game I am very interested in but didn't play yet I skip it. Individual timestamps would help a lot.

Big titty drinker

Yeah same , I used to listen to it but found my self thinking about the criticism brought by others while playing even if I don’t agree. This is why I actually think gaming media brings down the enjoyment of games

Joshua Brown

People must be looking at me crazy, laughing with tears in my eyes over the George Lucas, panda express order.

Baden Ronie

Colin: "I'm still nervous about GTA 6 coming out this year" Rockstar: "OMG Colin is right, we ain't making this, what were we thinking? Delay that shit now!"

Cameron Sturre

R.e. The stick conversation - PlayStation gamer all my life, from PS1 to PS4. Switched to Xbox Series this generation. I detest the PS5 controller now and symmetrical sticks. It feels so wrong for me now.

Cai

Dustin was talking very specifically about the feeling of the parry and dodge being like souls/Sekiro (Which he points out was the direct inspiration for the mechanic). It’s certainly brutal, but also manageable for non-souls players. It’s definitely not a souls game and I hope it doesn’t put people off trying it.

Mykal

The Star Wars section had me ROLLING 😂 tears in my eyes boys

Guybrush Threepwood

yes, I think if I could just use my xbox controllers on a playstation, i'd pretty happily switch over. besides my library of xbox games, i really really really love my xbox controllers. (default and razer ones).

Ryan

The gta 6 delay talk 😭😭😭

Ryan

Yeah ik what Dustin means but I do think we can all do better about jumping to the ‘souls-like’ comparison considering I think for a decent percentage of gamers, it’s a turn off. Especially hearing it about a turn based rpg of all things.

Clayton Garrett

For the PS4, I used a Nacon Revolution Pro Controller 3. For the PS5, I use the PDP Victrix Pro. Both have the Xbox-style offset sticks layout and have made gaming on PlayStation consoles MUCH more comfortable.

Cai

Oh definitely. It’s clear it took inspiration from Sekiro’s rhythm game inspired parry system - but that doesn’t make the combat as a whole “souls-like”. But yeah I hope it doesn’t turn anyone off - it’s so good I think everyone will get something out of it.

Murderer Kevin

Colin can only watch it if it's on YouTube

Dustin Furman

I swear some people don't even listen to what I say before commenting. LOL -Dustin

Cai

Haha you did say twice you knew people would roll their eyes when you mentioned a souls comparison. But you got Ben Starr’s confirmation your comparison was apt!

Adam Martinez

I skip if there are no games I’m interested in hearing about lol

Adam Martinez

The bridesmaid speeches part had me dying. Dustin you nailed it 🤣

Ryan Taylor

I’ve been loving arc raiders. Everything about it is scratching an itch for me. Fun gameplay, amazing artwork and audio, cool maps, running well etc. absolutely stoked for this and can’t wait for it to come out.

Danio

I like it too, but I wish it was more like The Division. Sometimes I just want to fight in PvE mode without the frustration that another "pRo gAMeR" will kill me when I am browsing my inventory...

WhatDarrenPlays

Yo Colin I've seen you say iRacing on steam is "Apparently Fucking Massive" a few times, I know you had 616 on and he told you that, but on steam it has 300 concurrent players. It's nothing. Forza Horizon 5 has 24,000 concurrent. Right now. Forza Horizon 4 has 8000. Forza Motorsport from Oct 2023 has 3000 players, and Dirt Rally 2.0 has 1200. So no, iRacing isn't massive. Sim racing isn't big at all, but iRacing is in fact the smallest sim racing game.

Tyler Stafford

It looks good, but Chris's point about 3rd person pvp is exactly how i feel.

Austen Wheatley

Not sure if you know but iRacing is essentially it's own service outside of Steam. You can purchase and use the game service directly on their website, without even using Steam, which is how people mainly interact with it. So Steam numbers for it are pretty useless. It absolutely is massive.

WhatDarrenPlays

I actually didn't know that, thank you! But I decided to look up the players then, in the game itself it says 11,000 people are online. So I stand corrected, much bigger than other sim racers on steam anyways, but "massive" still might be a stretch when compared to something like Forza. A random Total War game from 10 yrs ago has more players actively than that, Satisfactory has 24000... are all these games "Massive" or are they just quietly doing well in their niche. I dunno. Massive to me is 50K+ I guess, and that's still on the low end for big MP games.

Save The Game Media

I would get a Dualsense with asymmetrical sticks in a heartbeat. So much better

Stephen

If you guys ever actually need to apologize for something, you need to get together and recreate the long bow. I am cracking up right now thinking how hilarious that would be.

Claude

Chicken selects still exist in the uk

Bailey Callis

I find Colin's pondering if Sony should be virtuous about pricing puzzling. 1. He points out that Sony could win the console war despite claiming about 500 times in the past that Sony has already won the console war 2. Sony hasn't been consumer friendly almost at all since maybe like mid ps4 generation. They will 100% crank those prices just like xbox soon imo

Bailey Callis

I couldn't believe it. I live all the way in new zealand, just went to a wedding, and it was 1000% that speech 🤣 The groomsman speeches were also inappropriate 🤣🤣

Gabriel Baker

Colin singing “I’m still standing” was s-tier trolling 😂😂

Minji of NewJeans

It seems like it’s gonna happen once ps6 is a thing.

Mr. Scott If You're Nasty

On behalf of the souls community, git gud. Also... It's not a souls like and you should just try it. My wife is really enjoying it and I can't think of a person farther from the souls community

Ahlickaloo

I had the same reaction to Colin’s when “them” was used to address a singular best man 😂

Glen Yelenovic

Good BK > good McDonald’s, but it is a lot harder to find a good BK

Declan McIntyre

Here in Scotland the chicken selects are a main stay on the menu. Crazy to hear that we have something that was taken off the menu in the states. It’s usually the other way round

Gooch Gobbler

Yeah, he's talked about it. I've got the first one in my backlog

Gooch Gobbler

I wait until I have 4-5 hours in a game before listening to that section if I really care about it. Helped me form my own opinion on South of Midnight which I may have not given a shot hearing all the negativity. Doing the same with Expedition 33

Gooch Gobbler

I'm good, one of the most boring things in gaming right now haha I'm good on additional discussion

Bailey Callis

Chris seems to contort himself into liking everything bungie nowdays, not gonna lie. He's just about the only positive voice on Marathon ive heard so far

Titan

Dustin should have mentioned to Colin that there’s still defense if you really don’t want to do Parries and Dodge (no reason not to though). Granted it won’t help on the expert difficulty. Great game and definitely my GOTY so far

Beezlebozo

The term schlooter has never left my conscious