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NOTE: We've decided to delay Sacred Symbols until tomorrow to include a pickup. Sorry for the change in schedule.It's me, Colin! Please welcome Rhys Elliott of Alinea Analytics back to Sacred Symbols+. Back in early July, Rhys joined me for his first foray into the world of Sacred+, and at that time, we delved deep into sales data, consumer trends, and general industry analysis. Today, we do much the same, but with a different slate of topics and considerations. We begin with a foray into Helldivers 2's performance on Xbox and the future of off-platform PlayStation publishing, but then segue into a bunch of other stuff, too: The failure for Sony to fully support PlayStation 5 with first and second party product, the need (or lack thereof) for PS6, which strategies Sony and Microsoft will pursue in terms of next-gen pricing and access, the steady decline of the Xbox brand, Grand Theft Auto VI's potential sales and critical reception, the pricing controversy surrounding Silksong, the pending Saudi acquisition of storied American publisher Electronic Arts, and much more. Do enjoy!

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Deemac

Pick up to include the Halo news? Or am I missing something else? Plus maybe Colin can talk about him bodying that grifter last night lol

Orb Ponderer

Waiting for the halo on PS5 announcement I see Would love a sacred x duke to check in when that finally happens

ScrubbingBubblez

Is the pick up going to be about that debate with the retard last night

JustOkJeremy

My favorite podcast host, Colin Montgomery

Mitch Orobko

Well my Friday is ruined and depression has set in. Anyways I'll listen to this and forget about everything in 30 seconds.

Carlos Enrique Sierra

I hope the pickup is regarding Colin's debate with JT smash guy.

Eric

Saw you wipe the floor with that guy last night. Pickup is well deserved.

BigDumbStupidIdiot

You're going to have explain this "retard debate." Is it about trains?

Monkey D Luffy

I really hope the pick up is about Colin talking about the masterclass performance of the grifter last night

Dr. N-Word Cortex

Doesn’t our boy Colin have a warrant out for his arrest after the MURDER that took place?!

Girth Brooks

Sacred delayed for a “pickup”? Whats that?

Michael Welter

Please tell you didnt delay over internet beef. Dont give that loser the satisfaction. Could've waited to talk about it next week. Its not news. Not my podcast network was just looking forward to the normal show today.

Brian

Got to be honest, don’t even think it’s worth the pickup, JT is room temp IQ nonsense, I think Colin exposed him pretty bad last night. As someone who is also a conservative who follows gaming, guys like JT who are cringe and uninformed as fuck totally take the wind out of our sails, what a joke that was, dudes intro gave me instant nausea.

Beef Burka

Pick up must be pretty significant, I don't think I've seen you guys miss a Friday release before

Brandon Crownover

Is this the first time SS has ever been delayed a day? Just curious I’m not mad lol. Like others have said, hope the pickup is to address that hilarious stream from last night.

Dustin Furman

No, that's not the reason for the delay. -Dustin

Deemac

I doubt there would be a pickup if it wasn't for the Halo news. They prob would have talked about the other stuff on the Monday stream

Girth Brooks

Not too sure about that. Smash was cordial the entire time while Colin got really aggressive and started spurging out. All while never addressing the point that ranking a game’s (unreleased) revenue figures compared to other games does not “objectively” prove “success”.

Gabriel

Curious, but all will be revealed tomorrow

Michael Welter

Glad to hear it. Interested to see what news warranted the pickup. Edit: must be Halo.

Colin’s Jellybean-Shaped Head

It’s difficult to celebrate Colin obliterating someone who was so obviously of the special needs persuasion 😉

Michael Welter

Must be to see if Halo is announced for PS5 at the HWC today. Dont think they'd announce platforms for a first reveal but we'll see.

we are all dogs locked in god's hot car

If I had to guess pickup is for potential Halo on PlayStation reveal today, not Colin schooling some dipshit on the internet, as delightful as it was

drew

All good

PropellerDoggo

I hope it both. It will make it funnier to bring up the dipshit

Christian

I saw the Smash JT video on his channel. Ya got him good Colin. Now maybe you can debate Geeks and Gamers and Ryan Kinel over Intergalactic. You might be able to calm down there hate boner for Neil Druckmann.

Carl Wallace

Hope everyone in the LSM camp is ok and well x

Tyrone Yhip

What in the muthafuck is going on ?

StewDog

Delaying the main show so you can elaborate on how you dunked on a retard on the Internet is crazy work Edit* I saw Dustin said the delay is not due to the debate. Thank goodness.

Eric

Rhys is a great guest solid ss+ 🤙

Fernando

I’m saddened to see the amount of LSM listeners thinking Colin would delay the show for the first time ever to give airtime to some nobody he talked with for fun. Are you fucking serious? It’s clearly something industry related, for FUCKS sake.

Chris Yont

First thought seeing the delay was Halo. Didn’t even know any kind of debate happened yesterday lol

drew

Halfway thru this episode I keep thinking I have heard Colin say all this a dozen times.

Dennis Fox

Why the fuck are some of you so mad about the delay in these comments 😂

Smega Man

Dude I don’t know what anyone is talking about here, please explain

Jason H

Better be a good pickup I’m pretty busy with college football and series tomorrow

dooopy_boi

Man got offended when read his own tittles

Marc L

YouTube "SmashJT Colin." IDK how this delays the show though. I'm not filled in on that context

Chris Yont

It didn’t, Dustin said so in one of the comments. I believe it’s 100% about Halo.

i_wish_you_wood

Listen to it at 4x speed between commercials like the rest of us

Gash Bandicoot

Go check out /r/laststandmedia on Reddit. Dude on Twitter who has a troll YT channel implied Colin was a Yotei shill and they got into it on Twitter, Colin offered to get on dudes’ stream and debate the circanna numbers and dude got destroyed by Colin. Fast forward 15 mins to save yourself the brainrot intro. Absolute garbage but wait for the end of Colin’s interview where he goes “it was easier than you think”. Lol. 🧑‍🍳💋

Deemac

At times like this, the truly autistic sensibilities of the LSM audience is highlighted

Deemac

At first I assumed this was all jokes, but I now realise these people actually think that's the reason for the delay, which is mental. Take a good long look in the mirror folks

Supes

if people are legitimately upset that a videogame podcast, of all things, didn't publish an episode when they wanted it to, then they are terminally, inexcusably, preposterously, apocalyptically online. Good lord, go outside and breathe some fresh air. It's a podcast, for god's sake.

Michael McCoy

Obviously the delay is for Halo coming to PS5, but I do hope Colin mentions the debate with Smash JT. At least mention that god awful intro 🤣

Isaac Hodgson Downs

This guy must like like 10 minutes away from me haha! Bridgend here!

Rhys Elliott

I grew up in Swansea, but I live in Amsterdam now! I had a girlfriend in Bridgend when I was in uni though! Visited often :)

Isaac Hodgson Downs

I thought it sounded like a Swansea area accent! Crazy small world we live in

Derpology Mcswag

Nvm sacred wasn’t delayed for the debate with JT smash so :). I’ll listen to this happily while I make an awesome 15 minute AI buttrock intro for my ragebait YouTube channel.

Matt Wiles

Maybe because that other guy was annoying af? Every minute he kept saying ‘do you agree with me?’ Like he’s a manipulative salesman. He couldn’t just say ‘you know what, Colin, good point on the sales figures’. Like most people these days, can’t admit when they’re wrong. I would’ve then detoured off into kicking the guy for other things too.

Matt Wiles

GuYs YoUVe pUT tHE wROnG sHoW Up 😡😡😡 !!!!!

Jeff Willingham

Chris, idk if you read the comments but if you’re playing marathon and would be willing to play with a fan sometime this weekend that’d be cool 👌

Fella

Downside: couldn’t listen to sacred symbols at work today. Upside: I get to listen to sacred symbols at work tomorrow.

PairOfShuse

Good podcast and informative Couple of things I’d like to comment on: 1. The EA situation, while I mostly agree, one thing that gets overlooked is that the Middle East, South America, and mainland Asia, still have slaves. Actual slaves. Most of it is with forced labor and less than indentured servitude, but I never see this brought up. I hear more about LGBT stuff being brought up over the enslavement of people. They should be called out so it’s good to see, but at the same time, from SNK, they really haven’t changed anything that I’ve known of and let them operate how they want. 2. Also regarding EA: once again, BioWare gets called out about most likely being axed. The only thing in the recent discussion you had on stream with SmashJT (which you 98 percent were in the right during it) that disagree with was your statement about Veilguard. You said didn’t they have 2 million sales, acting like it was in line with their expectations. This was blatantly wrong. It ended up having 1.5-2 million PLAYERS and I believe it was estimated to have actual sales of less than a million. They expected 3 million either sales or players and didn’t reach that. It just sort of contradicts when you tried to act like it was a success, but then once again as many on LSM have stated, BioWare is most likely going to be axed. Other than that, that was the only thing I disagreed with in the discussion/debate. 3. It’s nice having these people on to talk sales. I’ve always been someone who followed sales of games and consoles and for a while at one point it was a lot harder to get sales. With the whole players numbers being thrown around the past few years, which means absolutely nothing except in the context of free to play games to possibly project how many sales the product might be able to produce, it’s nice to see real numbers talk.

Alec Barcelos

I hope the pick up has to do with that dork who was disputing sales numbers with the 5 minute AI intro slop.

Clayton Garrett

Going to be very disappointed if the title of the delayed episode isn't Soil lyrics...

Michael McCoy

If this is referring to the closed alpha/beta with the NDA, Chris said he wouldn’t be playing. Unless he said elsewhere that he changed his mind

Dante B

We’re going to find out together my brother.

ScrubbingBubblez

Pretty sure this is about Halo . I guess I'm the retard now.

Big Swingin' Rick

Colin this was a great episode and Rhys is an awesome guest. I love the current SS trio obviously and wouldn't change it, but if dusty or Chris were ever to leave, Rhys should be on your shortlist. He's educated, has great industry knowledge, and a clear passion for games. Rhys, if you happen to read this, you and Sandeep Rai would make an awesome non American podcast duo

zepplinmike

On the terrible idea of a sovereign equity fund, Colin seems to be happy to dig in further on that and only respond to straw men and oversimplified counterarguments like “it’s socialism!” Having actually studied the real and scholarly arguments for why market systems work and overly centralized economies do not, I could go on for a long time, but I’ll just mention these points: 1) The idea that we have “unfettered capitalism” and have seen the failure of that is hilarious. In no remote way at all is the market unfettered and you can trace a lot of criticism of it to unintended consequences of government action; 2) I personally wouldn’t at all argue for NO government regulation of the market, but when you do propose further interference beyond the significant interference we already have, you need to think about those unintended consequences and “distortions” that would result; 3) the claim that the govt would own a stake in American companies and not take a voting role or otherwise use it to interfere in operations (for political and not business ends) is simply not how the world works or will ever work.

Aaron

A lot of good educated guesses in this episode.

Griffin Karr

The entitlement in the comments is crazy. Happy the see and hear Rhys back on the show, always very intelligent conversation

Bailey Callis

Me hearing Rhys plead with Colin not to get a real job 🫩

D

Acting as if American culture is "superior" to Saudi Arabia's and has a higher moral standing is delusional patriotism. There is significantly more blood on the hands of the American government and its people in its short 250 year existence.

John King

Not appearing on rss for anyone else?

Michael Ryan

Great episode. I really think Satya wants that Xbox division sale to Saudi type fund. Exactly what hes gearing up for by forcing all these changes to Phil/Sarah's business plan. Ports, GP/HW increases, layoffs, closing studios etc. He wants MS to be rid of the division. Wouldn't be surprised to see it within 3 years.

Jose Velez

In terms of how minorities, women, and the lgbt community are treated how is American culture not superior.

YP-Berserk

Excellent discussion