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The winds of change are blowing through Xbox! Two of their three leaders that have guided the entire Series generation in Phil Spencer and Sarah Bond are out. Staying is Matt Booty, who was also promoted (!), and joining as the new CEO of Microsoft Gaming is Asha Sharma. Despite Sarah Bond seemingly being groomed as Phil's successor, Asha steps in with a background that touts her as President of Microsoft's CoreAI alongside time spent at Instacart and Meta as an executive leader. Similarly to when Phil inherited the mess from Don Mattrick, Asha has her work cut out for her. Joining the Dukes is none other than the man to blame for all this nonsense, Brad Ellis. Together, the trio comb through the initial Microsoft blog post that broke the news. From there, we dig into an article by Tom Warren of The Verge who lays the blame of many of Xbox's shortcomings at the feet of Sarah Bond. Like many in our audience asked, we discuss if this is a hit piece, the truth, or somewhere in between. Lastly, Asha Sharma and Matt Booty sat down to chat with Jez Corden about the new lay of the land for Xbox. There are some answers and many questionable non-answers that lead to conversations of their own. Together, let's unpack what is a seismic change for Xbox as the brand continues to feel like it's hanging on by a thread.Timestamps:0:00:00 - Intro


0:06:36 - What We’re Playing

0:35:06 Phil Spencer and Sarah Bond depart from Xbox

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Mike1core

Who let Brad in? Lmfaoo

Russell Robinson

Brad the Harbinger of troublesome times for the Xbox.😆

Christian

Just one topic. Damn. This is awesome!

Eric

Bad news Brad returns!

Big titty drinker

Brah that nerdy black guy blessings from kinda funny aired yall mans Jez the fuck out yesterday Jesus Christ😭. I’m so glad someone had the balls to treat Jez like the complete fucking clown he is lol

Bogey

Wait….are they really implying that Brad was set to be in this episode before the news dropped? So it seriously happened again?? Bad news breaking when Brad guests? Because if so that’s actually starting to get freaky.

BamAHamYum

Shoutout to this crew for having an intelligent and thoughtful conversation about this situation. Last weekend I listened to a few Xbox podcasts I normally wouldn’t because I was curious what they had to say about Phil and Sarah. What I found was the exact same conversation every single time: “You know, if there’s one thing you gotta give Phil credit for…” “Say what you want about Phil, but he’s a true gamer.” “One time he joined my Fallout 76 server and emoted at me!” I’m not arguing that Phil accomplished nothing during his tenure. But it’s painfully obvious that a significant portion of the Xbox community is so blinded by their perception of Phil as their “friend” that they’re incapable of critically evaluating his failures as a leader. They’re so enamored with the selfies at Summer Game Fest or The Game Awards that they refuse to acknowledge a basic reality: among the big three platform holders, Xbox is the only one putting all of their first party titles in a subscription service, the only one who has a CEO touting his gamer sensibilities and engaging parasocially with the community, and they also happen to be the only one failing catastrophically. You can respect someone personally and still hold them accountable professionally. I don’t think most of the creators in the Xbox sphere understand that.

Zachary

Brad god bless you! You are the antidote to cogs copium

Devon!

Brad is the sleeper agent for PlayStation that Colin wished he could be. Go get em Brad!

Namistai25

"Come on, baby (Don't fear the Reaper) Baby, take my hand (Don't fear the Reaper) We'll be able to fly (Don't fear the Reaper) Baby, I'm your man La, la, la, la, la La, la, la, la, la" ♥️

Anton Kaye

I want the beanie!!!

Slippery when wet

Friendly critique. Matty next time, break a big piece like that down. Glazed over with you reading for 20 minutes

Publix Chicken tender sub

This might be one of the best podcast episodes I’ve ever heard in my life. very interesting conversation. These guys are second to none.

Drew's Dew

Brad Stand Media so lame

Buddah loves Icecream

He walked it back today though because he works at Kinda Funny who only get softball interviews. Classic access journalism.

Eddie B

Goated episode Dukes. Intelligent, thoughtful, fair and interesting convo

Matty LSM

Yeah, fair. Felt like one of those things where I was part way through and thought "this isn't working how I thought it would" LOL - Matty

EEWEE

DD beanie for sure!!

NerfedNinja

Heated Matty = Goated Matty

i_wish_you_wood

Throat coat’s doing its job though you didn’t miss a beat Matty

Daddy T

Ah hello again Drew, still being a dickhead I see

Daddy T

I’ll take that beanie Matthew and Micah

Mysterious Narrator

Great episode, very good conversation and view of the situation. Those my Dukes.

Drew D

Beanie me plz

Claude

Jez was literally talking on his own podcast before the interview about trying no to shill for Xbox anymore 😂

Drew's Dew

Hey :) dick rider friend. I know you knew I’d be here. Rent free on your head top.

Anthony Palerino

When matty said “the real surprise here is…” I thought he was going to say that Matt Booty got promoted not fired

Adam Barber

I’ll buy a DD beanie!!

JazzyB

DD Beanie support!

Daddy T

Nah dawg, you ain’t as slick as you think you are, just cringe lol

Mr. Scott If You're Nasty

They better not get rid of Gamepass. I freaking love that service. Itd be going backwards and bad for the consumer. Also, to get Brad back into ecosystem we need to get rid of Gamepass, bring back Banjo, bring back exclusives, and kill the battery option in the controller? Yeah, Brad can stay outside lol Cog was essential in this episode. Really balanced the other two out. ##DDPhilSarah

Donny C

2 DD beanies please!

Donny C

Think Matty needs to watch Double Fine’s Psychonauts documentary specifically when the pandemic hit before calling some of the dev time limits and such “unacceptable” definitely effects my work.

Austyn Riley

Love the DD beanie idea. Will buy day 1.

Connor G

DD Beanie please

Ryan

Nobody saying anything when Matty was reading all that is crazy lmao

ZombiesNJ

Xbox 360 2 next gen FTW. Back to the glory days lol

ParsleyThyme

Going to be honest, it is a little disheartening hearing both Matty and Brad advocate so strongly for exclusives to return. I guess my only counter at this point is to ask a hypothetical. If you love exclusives so much because they “allow for so many games to get created that wouldn’t otherwise”, would you also prefer for other industries to take the walled garden approach? Should Disney come out as say the only way you can watch Star Wars, Marvel, and Disney animation content is by purchasing a Disney branded TV? Should Taylor Swift make a deal with Apple so the only way you can listen to her music is on an Apple device? And no, streaming platforms like Netflix are not the same. I can download the Netflix app on any smart device ever made and therefore it is an easy thing to subscribe to another platform on the same TV if I don’t like their business practices. Have a “we finally had a competitor in the industry challenge the walled garden ecosystem just for fans to shoot it down in preference of a system that keeps you locked to a specific brand of plastic, kind of day”

James Tyler

If Microsoft remove day one games from game pass, Xbox will die completely as a console manufacturer, who would pay £22.99 a month to get old games, no one, game pass is basically xbox's only revenue except the 30% they get from 3rd party games on the store. They taught their players not to buy games and to instead subscribe to game pass, there's no coming back from that.