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Sacred Symbols, Episode 14: Mega Meh (Patreon)

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2018-10-02 16:01:01
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The fall rush is just about here, and there's much to discuss. For starters, Mega Man 11 has arrived, and Colin -- The World's Biggest Mega Man Nerd™ -- has some feelings about it. News concerning the recent (and very surprising) Telltale closure has also been flooding out, including word of a class action lawsuit, which we discuss. Plus: Our long PS4 cross-platform play national nightmare is over, new PlayStation Plus games have been revealed, Bungie trademarked a new video game title, and you better damn well buy Dragon Quest XI, or else. You have all of that (plus much more) to look forward to, rounded out, as we do each week, with your questions, comments, and concerns.

Timestamps:

0:00:17 - Intro.
0:01:33 - A discussion on Sacred Symbols' runtime.
0:03:36 - A clarification on Telltale's declining sales figures.
0:04:47 - Read the Dallas Morning News story about Randy Pitchford.
0:05:22 - What should we do with The Drop?
0:06:51 - Clarification on game pricing: US vs. The World.
0:07:15 - Is cereal a soup?
0:09:39 - A handjob from Kratos or a blowjob from Clank?
0:12:27 - What is Chris playing?
0:13:57 - What is Colin playing?
0:21:09 - Sony finally allows Fortnite crossplay (plus Q's).
0:25:54 - These are October's free PlayStation Plus games (plus Q's).
0:30:11 - Ex-Telltale employee files class action suit (plus Q's).
0:45:14 - Telltale may pursue release of TWD's final season (plus Q's).
0:50:13 - There will be no PlayStation Experience in 2018 (plus Q's).
0:56:31 - Bungie files trademark for new game title: Matter.
0:58:53 - Netflix still wants a Stranger Things game.
1:00:31 - Sony intends to bring longer, deeper games to PSVR.
1:02:17 - Fallout 76's beta dated, detailed.
1:03:22 - Fallout 76 won't utilize cross-platform play (plus Q's).
1:05:15 - Hitman 2 has gone gold.
1:07:03 - If you want more Dragon Quest in the west, buy DQXI.
1:08:04 - Some classic multiplayer PS3 games' servers are going down.
1:10:01 - PixelJunk Side-Scroller pulled due to music license issues.
1:11:00 - Minor game announcements and release date information.
1:12:28 - This week's new releases for PS4, PS Vita, and PSVR.
1:18:46 - Why were BMX XXX and The Guy Game things?
1:21:38 - Which old arcade games should make a comeback on console?
1:25:09 - Does Castlevania Requiem mean Konami is coming back?!
1:29:12 - Does fluctuating Trophy completion percentages drive us nuts?
1:30:15 - Which AAA studios are you worried about?
1:31:24 - Was Telltale's downfall due to it not owning any IP?
1:32:47 - Is a fully backwards compatible PlayStation 5 unlikely?
1:37:49 - Is Assassin's Creed's modern day component necessary?
1:40:25 - Outro.

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Comments

DB Cooper

Ugh, roaches. Gotta love LA. Sorry you’re dealing with that, Chris!

Lockmort

Best part of the week.

Owen

Think I'm the only person that defended Sony on not having crossplay. I'm dying on that hill.

James Galos
>>15980051

Winston Churchill was embarrassed in WW1 and boldly led the charge in WW2 to cement his name in history haha

Owen

Have to disagree with Chris about the paying for a demo - Betas aren't demos. They're stress tests, and while I like open betas if you're giving your fans an extra thing for preordering where you're the first ones to play and give feedback on the game, I don't see a problem with that. I imagine if they didn't have enough preorders they would do an open beta.

David Elmore

Thank you guys for making my Tuesday a little more bearable

jalen kelly

I felt you guys spend a perfect amount of time on the games. If people have an issue with the games, maybe just change the placement and put it at the end of the podcast. for the people who don’t wanna listen idk just spitballing I personally love it regardless

James Galos

I feel like I’m on a real role with questions making it 4 out of the last 5 weeks! House of Cards crossed my mind as well, but that IP is pretty dead... or could you revive it with a game without Kevin Spacey?

Cory Hahn

In regards to crossplay, I'm incredibly skeptical about the impact this might have on the multiplayer experience for FPS considering console players will be playing against PC users and in that genre there is a clear advantage of mouse and keyboard over a controller. I've always enjoyed the online FPS experience knowing that the playing field was 'level' and that everyone was using the same equipment and now I'm quite concerned that my ability to enjoy these games might be greatly diminished. Am I missing something or is a larger player pool that much more important than someone handing me my lunch as I try to out gun them with an analog stick?

Bogey Zero

Gotta be honest, I'm part of the camp that really could do without the reading of the game titles. Gets super long in the tooth even when there's not an especially large amount of games. I usually just skip past it. Otherwise, loving this show. Keep up the good work.

Jayce Tamulevich

The drop is a tradition. I love the reactions as we all discover what nonsense is headed our way. And it should be noted, Chris’ “game releases” voice is a delight, I’m glad he’s joined in on the reading.

Kenneth Oms

In regards to crossplay, i'm glad sony bent the knee as well. They had crossplay on PS2 with Final Fantasy 11 lol. Man, i miss that game.

john spatta

First time reading timestamps before listening and felt bad. It was like reading a spoiler review of a movie before seeing it. Wont do that again.

Ryan B.

I love the podcast but the game announcements are becoming increasingly cumbersome to listen to. I respect the concerns around due diligence but I’m not sure I really think of you guys as journalists per se. I’ll keep listening either way. Thanks for all the great content!

Kyle Conaway

I’m just 2:30 into the podcast and thank you for replying to the input on the runtime.

Brian Borlaug

Oddly enough I still have my copy of the guy game on original Xbox. I was a freshman in college when that game came out and it was ridiculous, i remember that GameStop wouldn't take it in trade in, so it's just sat in a box. It did have some fun mini games and at least allowed you to play presidents and assholes in a game to drink to

Richard Duflo

I had asked about this over the weekend, (cause Todd Howard directly blamed Sony) but deleted it after Pete Hines clarified this a bit. Anyway, Hines tweeted out they are too close to the release of 76 to include cross play. I guess Sony jumped on board too late for it to be implemented at launch Also, it’s been a minute since we’ve heard a Shatter reference from ya

LastStandMedia
>>15979496

My parents almost named me that, which is weird because I was born four years before Mega Man launched.

LastStandMedia
>>15981504

Well, his point is that the betas really aren't stress tests at all, and he's right. Most "betas" these days are absolutely glorified demos.

LastStandMedia
>>15982349

You shouldn't have pointed that out. That makes me feel bad. I hate people not getting their questions read. I'm putting you on hold, Galos!

Craig Carter

I work at Safeway and I can vouch that honey with pizza is a thing.. noticed today they had a Italian sausage and honey pie. Idk why I’m telling you but I just thought I’d let you know. Good day Colin.

LastStandMedia
>>15982558

Yeah, that's a legitimate concern, that PC gamers in twitch-style games will have a huge advantage. It's worth figuring out how that'd work.

Jason Bolla

I'd keep the game list - I love the little jabs here and there, especially today's preorder comment toward Chris. Just a nice place for some silly fun.

Cole Minder

Hollow Knight is “not very hard”, I think this opinion may change.

John Lynch

I haven’t had sleep paralysis in a while so I thought I’d share this. The first time this happened to me was in Iraq in 2008. I had never heard of it prior to this, so I was pretty freaked out when I awoke to the Dead girl from the Ring sitting on my chest, choking me, trying to get in my mouth. This has happened a handful of times since. The most recently she decided to rise up through my mattress in between me and my wife

John Quinn

I like the drop. It’s tradition, and I like knowing what’s happening on the storefront, regardless if much of it is shovel ware or asset flips.

LastStandMedia
>>15986940

I don't find it too hard, but it's probably because I'm not a gigantic bitch. (Still one of my favorite, totally arbitrary insults. =D)

David Graham

I still like you guys going through the drop. My only real suggestion would perhaps be to do some kind of "pick of the week" or something of the sort. Maybe what you two are most likely to check out, or what you would recommend to the audience. It'd add some practical value to the segment beyond entertainment.

Will Hahn

You brought up the question of kratos and clank with the hand job and blow job 😂😂😂 holy shit, that made my day.

Marcus Brown

First off I also feel you guys should go as long as necessary as well as continue the drop. Like you guys I too loathe Fortnite and have taste. Great show as always guys! Thanks for everything.

Korey Burns

This Randy Pitchford story is CRAZY! There's a guy that can't seem to catch a break.

hugplx

Curious what you'll think about Hollow Knight long term. I was enjoying it a lot in the beginning, but found it got more frustrating than fun and challenging later on - mostly as a result of the checkpoints and annoying enemies blocking me from getting back to my corpse. Can't wait for the Castlevania collection. Playing that over RDD2 lol

Ryan Lemieux

I personally love when you guys read the game drops.

Anonymous

I enjoyed the dredg reference, Colin. I live in Australia, and the only people I've ever heard talk about dredg are the people I've put onto them. Thanks for another great episode, guys.

Anonymous

Keep listing the games. It's hilarious! 😁

Anonymous

Guy Game is way worse because it had a topless 17 year old girl in it.

Anonymous

PS3 emulators have been coming along really well actually, I don't know where Chris got the idea that it was going bad. OG Xbox and 360 emulation is going way slower and Microsoft managed to make that work on their console on a weaker system. Don't underestimate the fact that MS and Sony have the rights to their own source code. If PC emulators could use the source code, the emulators would come along way faster. The only reason they don't is because it's illegal.

Michael Miller

I believe The Guy Game was actually pulled from store shelves due to one of the girls featured in it being underage.

Cletus, the angry pro-life fetus

"Konami putting out new Castlevanias is not a redemption arc." Haha fair enough, Chris. Just wanted to get an outside opinion. To add to a few comments I've read, I'm in the camp of, I could do without the new game reads. Obviously, it's your show, you do what you want and I'll support you, but I feel like a title and a half-assed description by the publisher is not enough to sell me a game. I play new games based off of the input you guys have to offer and whether or not you recommend them.

Tyson Williams

According to the Rachet and Clank Wiki Rachet is 5 foot exactly, but couldn’t find Clank’s height. I love the drop, it’s quite amusing to me hearing you guys comment on the descriptions and stuff. 2 hours sounds good to me, even if I would listen to more than 2 hours, 2 hours is perfect in most weeks.

Tyson Williams

I don’t think Hollow Knight is revolutionary but I love it, the aesthetic, the combat, the exploration. I love it a lot, I think it really has executed a Metroidvania’s sense of exploration better than most other metroidvanias I’ve played and it doesn’t have those crazy moments that you find in Metroid where you have to do a random thing to a specific tile that’s the same as every other tile.

Steven Oslund

I love the Drop and really hope it continues. I totally understand if people don't like it but podcast apps have a lovely feature to jump ahead 30 seconds at a time. This show also has excellent timestamps, thank you for that, so I think both are great solutions for those folks who don't wish to listen to the segment. Appreciate you listening to feedback on this!

Martin

Regarding Destiny 2 on PS+, it was also on the Humble Monthly games subscription last month (cheaper than PS+!) so thinking they may be desperate to get the playerbase up? Oh and I like the drop but maybe when you have 20+ games you can be selective with the descriptions? Get the names out there without spending 30minutes on it :)

Philip Andersen

The original concept for Watch Dogs was the modern day of Assassins Creed. It was developed by the AC dev team as well. Tho, during the development they changed it into its own game. There’s been Easter eggs here and there in that show that the games has ties to each other. But man, watch dogs was such a disappointment, I felt they didn’t know what to do with it.

Jason Stafford

I vote to keep the reading of The Drop. It's tradition, it's fun, and sometimes it reminds me that a game I was interested in is being released. Some of the great comedy between you two also spawns from this segment. We can't lose that opportunity!

strawhatninja

I also vote to keep doing the drop. We all have different gaming tastes and opinions and I know on your old show PS I love you. You guys read a game and I had no idea it even existed and bought it instantly.

Finn

I personally don't care for the drop (that's the name of the "new games" section, yes?) but clearly a lot of people do. Maybe you could move it to the final segment, so that those of us who don't like it can skip it without missing the viewer comments/questions?

Dylan
>>16009216

As someone who enjoys the drop quite a bit, this seems like a good compromise.

Michal Dudic

the chemistry between you two gets better with each episode, it's a joy to listen to. I'm really happy that you do this podcast.

Matthew Perry

Another great episode :-) really want to give that astrobot rescue mission vr game a try as have read some reviews that its close to a mario or lucky tales game and with a vr spin on it sounds like it could be right up my alley :-) my girlfriend is off to Spain at the end of the month and then back in January so trying to think off all the games to play to keep me occupied till she gets back! P.s my vote is to keep the drop and go as long as you feel nessesary , when you have the content listed underneath each episode of sacred symbols it gives everyone the option to skip what they don't want to listen too and you have the best of both worlds

Anonymous

My wife surprised me with Dragon Quest XI on lunch day. This household has done it's contribution to society.

Mitch G

Colin: "I gotta stop smoking so much weed"

Neely 4x4

Great episode guys! I say do all of the drop, sometimes it’s the only way I’ll hear about some of these games. Also, you mentioned honey on pizza crust. Next time you get a chick fil a chicken biscuit put some honey on that. I never knew they could get any better!

LastStandMedia
>>15992307

It's incredibly obtuse, but does enough to keep me going. I like it. I'm using a spoilerless 112% guide to make sure I don't miss anything.

LastStandMedia
>>15997939

You seem to be in the minority, which surprises me. I thought more people were... let's say... aghast.

LastStandMedia
>>16005682

I wonder if they'll ultimately revisit it for a third time. I know that the second one was very well received, critically.

John Lynch

Loved the show as always guy. Colin I’ve got a question I’ve been wondering and wasnt sure where to ask since I’m not on Twitter. Have you played the latest star ocean, or the PS3 star ocean? Looking for a new JRPG to play

Chad Lewis

If the drop dies so help me god colin

Addiholic

The drop is amazing. Please keep it as is. Listening to you guys crack up as you get through some of the most ridiculous games I've ever heard is legit a highlight.

Roman Caraman

I hope the drop stays. I am pumped for Trails of Cold Steel 1 and 2 on PS4. I played the first one on PS Now, I started the second one and while playing it I became too annoyed with the streaming troubles I had and cancelled my subscription.

Cooly-Z

Keep the drop!

Anonymous

Why don’t you guys call the drop “the drip” and read six or seven games at a time throughout the podcast. It gets them all out there but in short controlled bursts.

Brett Carlson

Hey colin wanted to know your thoughts on 2 things. I personally dont believe cross play is the future. For free to play games like Battle Royale sure, but I do not see AAA 3rd party games will have purchases be playable across all platforms, but I was wondering if you see this move by Sony as further proof that they have there finger on the pulse of gaming? They initially said no and then tested the temperature of the reaction and wound up saying yes which was met with largely positive headlines. Like a good politician, they controlled the narrative. And this post was so long that I have forgotten the 2nd question.

Greg Horsman

I love the drop. When I listen to other playstation podcasts I am always surprised that they don't read them.

Greg Horsman
>>16085346

At this point I only do! Before sacred symbols launched I was forced to explore what's out there. Couldn't find one I came close to enjoying as much as the now 3 you've been on. Your format over the years has been and is perfect.

Cameron James

Hey man, big fan of your stuff. I've been reading your stuff since the IGN days, and I've always find your commentary to be insightful and interesting (even if I don't always agree with you). You asked for feedback so I wanted to pitch a couple of things: - I know people like long podcasts, but honestly I don't get it. An hour and half to two hours already seems like a lot. I think capping off at two hours is good. - I don't ind the idea of calling out the new game releases, but I think the segment goes on for too long. Maybe just read out the full descriptions for the interesting ones? But still read out the titles of all the games. - I don't donate on Patreon, because at the moment I'm a student working full time. I just can't do the donations right now, but I plan to in the future because I definitely want to support your stuff. You release the podcast three days later, and I don't understand why because it's a news-based show and some of the stuff gets outdated before it gets released. I get why you do it, to encourage people to donate, but it makes it hard to recommend the show to others.

LastStandMedia
>>16107455

Hey Cameron, thank you for your feedback! The show is released on Patreon early because the people here are actually paying for the production of the show and the sustenance of its long term health, like you noted. If you don't want to recommend it to others, that's okay! More than 50,000 people listen to each episode on free feeds and YouTube days (and often weeks) after the episodes go live here. So, all is well. Whether you support me on Patreon or not, I appreciate you!

bk200jj

Love the drop. I look forward to it every week. The haters love ice in their drinks.