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Sacred Symbols, Episode 46: All the Rage (Patreon)

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2019-05-14 16:01:01
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This week, the seemingly endless march of open world something-or-the-others continues with the release of Bethesda's and Avalanche's Rage 2. How have we been enjoying the FPSRPG's opening hours? We go into all the highs and the lows. The last seven days have also provided fertile soil for news, especially on the back of Sony's second State of Play stream. PS4's Medievil remake finally has a release date, while a new second-party Predator-themed asymmetric multiplayer game is also en route to the console. Meanwhile, Capcom's mega-popular Monster Hunter: World is finally getting a major expansion, John Wick is now a video game, EA Access is coming to PS4 five years too late, and much, much more. Listener questions also bring us on a wild journey, touching on topics ranging from Final Fantasy VII Remake's episodic nature to the mysterious design philosophy of too-long button prompts. Also: Is Chris' shirt red or crimson? This is a podcast, so perhaps you'll never know.

Timestamps:

0:00:17 - Intro.
0:01:16 - Chris watched Lola while Colin was away. Also: Chris accidentally went to a porn award show.
0:04:45 - Remember: CLS Merch is here!
0:05:35 - One listener threatens arson upon the boys.
0:06:24 - The plan with outstanding Sacred Symbols Let's Plays (plus Side Quest news).
0:07:55 - Did the second State of Play live up to the hype?
0:10:42 - What we’ve been playing.
0:22:11 - The Medievil remake has a release date.
0:27:53 - Sony announces Predator: Hunting Grounds for PS4.
0:32:56 - Ubisoft announced Ghost Recon: Breakpoint.
0:39:16 - Monster Hunter World's awaited Iceborne expansion is dated.
0:41:44 - A new special edition PlayStation 4 console has been revealed.
0:43:17 - A John Wick game called John Wick Hex has been announced.
0:44:58 - EA Access is finally coming to PlayStation 4.
0:47:35 - Couch co-op hack-and-slasher Riverbond is coming to PS4.
0:48:46 - Avalanche and Bethesda outline Rage 2's roadmap.
0:51:29 - Weird survival game Away: The Survival Series revealed for PS4.
0:53:50 - These were the top-downloaded PSN games of April, 2019.
0:54:47 - SEGA purchases Two Point Studios.
0:56:17 - Devolver Digital is having another E3 press conference this year.
0:57:23 - Bandai Namco reveals the Tales JRPG series surpasses 20 million sold.
0:58:26 - Minor game announcements and release date information.
1:00:35 - Why is Final Fantasy VII Remake still episodic?
1:08:09 - This week's new releases for PS4, PS Vita, and PSVR.
1:15:48 - Chris remembers that he has finally played Dreams.
1:18:15 - Uncharted 4 came out 3 years ago. How does it hold up?
1:23:02 - There’s new US legislation looking to regulate lootboxes and microtransactions.
1:33:28 - Why are devs insist on making us hold down X instead of a quick press?
1:36:16 - Why don't we talk more about art styles?
1:42:02 - Should Sony invest in a new PlayStation All Stars-style fighting game?
1:44:38 - Will physical games eventually just be collectors items?
1:47:10 - Why do music rights need to be re-acquired for re-releases?
1:50:46 - Is Bethesda’s treatment of the gaming press “Trump-esque”?

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Anonymous

Chris "I go to funerals of people I don't know" Ray Gun.

James Galos

If only this was 6 hours long to get me through the rest of my work day

Andrew

Ryan Russilo and Bill Simmons. Pretty good podcasting duo

Kenneth Oms

I introduced my brother to Jericho after I watched a few episodes. He was hooked to the point where he bought the blue rays years later. He loves that show. Agreed the post apocalyptic games are over saturated now

Real Radec

As the resident PlayStation All-Stars expert (and dreamer of the sequel) I feel the need to weigh in on this urgent issue (get ready for the essay) I have to disagree with your stance on whether or not a PlayStation All-Stars 2 should happen. You said that Smash Bros. encapsulates Nintendo and I agree. It’s a love letter to Nintendo fans which so much care, love but most importantly production value and resources. I’m someone who loved the original game, went on forums constantly and ate up any coverage. One of the main problems with PSAS was that it did not feel like a love letter to fans. The roster was decent but small. The first party cast was great minus Evil Cole. The choice for third party characters was odd since Heihachi was the only one that made sense due to Tekken’s legacy with PlayStation. Raiden and Dante would have been good choices but they were the Revengeance and DmC versions, and Big Daddy and Isaac Clarke really have no big significance to PlayStation since their inclusions felt like advertisements for Bioshock Infinite and Dead Space 3. What they need to do is appeal to hardcore PlayStation fans. People keep saying that PlayStation characters aren’t memorable but that isn’t true at all. Kratos, Nathan Drake, Sackboy, Ratchet, Sly Cooper, Aloy among others are well known enough to carry their own crossover game. They just need to put in the love in care that Masahiro Sakurai does for Smash Bros. It’s not like Olimar, or any of the 24 Fire Emblem characters are well known or iconic exactly. Sony really needs to understand that its fans do actually care about their franchises and characters, and for them not to try again I feel is a wasted opportunity. Especially now since back in 2012 Sony was not in the best shape compared to where they are now. Stronger relationships with 3rd parties could mean more 3rd party characters that are actually significant to PlayStation like Crash and Spyro (which are more likely to be in a PSAS2 due to their remasters) Lara Croft, Monokuma, and even Spider-Man. I could go on and on, but I just want to emphasize that there still could be a market for this kind of game. I still see requests from people that want to see their favorite PS characters duke it out against eachother and offer a nice love letter for PlayStation fans, since Sony does have a rich history. They might move on from their franchises a lot, but that doesn’t mean the fans do not remember them. Just my two cents sorry for the essay. P.S. no Chris the roster wasn't just "dudes". It was actually quite diverse with Ratchet, Sly, Big Daddy, Toro, Parappa, Kat, Fat Princess, Sackboy, Nariko, Sir Dan etc. And for the sequel (if it happens) they will definitely add more "dudes" like the Bloodborne Hunter and Gabe Logan, but they will absolutely add more female characters and anthropomorphized characters like Crash, Spyro, Abe, Lara Croft, Aloy, 2B (Nier), and our holy savior Knack. P.P.S. I actually remember talking to some former devs of Superbot, and they revealed that Tomba was in the works (which is another great retro choice for old school PS1 gamers) and Ryu Hayabusa. Shame what could have been, only if Sony actually cared about this game more instead of treating it like some red headed stepchild with a budget that is equivalent to a $20 psn game /s.

Jeff Caseres

Honestly the one podcast i look forward to the most every week. 👍🏽👍🏽

Keith W

Great episode. And Kotaku is the worst.

Marcus Brown

I'm ridiculous hyped for The Predator game! As well as John Wick and Ghost Recon: Breakpoint so far since they got the actor Jon Bernthal to play the antagonist.

Tanner Brant

Woo 2 hour episode! Glad you liked VA-11 HALL-A Colin, really special game.

Caleb Peacock

“Last of us with sugar gliders” lmao

Jose Horrach

A little disappointed that Projared's penis wasn't discussed but that's ok, I still enjoyed the episode.

Barrett Boswell

Another great episode. I enjoyed the longer length too. Very intrigued by the Predator game since they worked on the Friday the 13th game. Was so much fun, even when it was broken. I was trying to rack my brain over what Playstation character I would like to see in Smash if Sony was feeling nice enough to play with Nintendo but they already have my #1 in Solid Snake. I guess my next wish would be Raziel or Kain from Legacy of Kain series even though they're not Sony exclusive.

Simon Payne

Just FYI fortnite has no loot boxes. Fortnite sells skins though. Except there pve game mode, but nobody plays that.

DB Cooper

I love Bar Sinister! hahaha I wish I would have seen Chris's interaction there. lmao

LastStandMedia

Too late, William. You'll now forever be known as the person who had too-high expectations. I'm sorry.

LastStandMedia
>>22718956

We had no intention of going that long. Just goes to show you that I mean what I say when I say "it'll be as long as it needs to be." =D

Jordan Falduto

1. It's insane how much I see eye to eye with you on the FF series. I had the same arc with 7. Used to diss it because the Madden bros all of a sudden were into my favorite series and I wasnt having it. Didn't break down and play it until 2010. 2. Love the long episodes. Keep the tangents coming. 3. Thumbs up to not immediately jumping into the patrons at the Producer level or higher - I like that you give credit where credit is due! Keep it up, gents...

bk200jj

I always assumed the button holding mechanic was designed for mistakes as well, but never thought about how satisfying it is until you mentioned it. The division 2 is nothing but holding buttons to do anything, but it feels good all the time.

NeO JD

Bod sledding enthusiast. Nice. A Crimson Chin reference. lol I kinda forgot alt porn existed so thanks for that. 😄 Thanks for taking my Breakpoint question. It was interesting hearing your take on it. I guess my playstyle is different but I wish they would’ve at least given you the option with the AI squad. Maybe it’ll play fine solo and more like The Division as you mentioned but I need to see the single player options in play before I decide if I’m gonna jump in.

Anthony Gigi

Really enjoyed the longer episode this week, it’s nice to get one every once in a while. 😁

tejotl

Shoutouts to Colin who asked the question about art and estethics. Highlight of the episode for me apart from 'you can't drop things off a planet' #powerful

GameSimp

My boner hit the table too, Colin

Jayce Tamulevich

Just a quick note on Away, I was absolutely convinced it was going to turn out to be Tokyo Jungle 2, and I was pumped. I am unreasonably disappointed.

Brandon Soto

Why does Chris constantly interrupt/talk over you and not let you finish speaking? 🤦🏽‍♂️🤦🏽‍♂️🤦🏽‍♂️

Nate McKinney

I totally wrote in about the Predator game haha. (It's ok, I forgive you) I was wondering if it was the unannounced exclusive you've alluded to a few times recently, or is there still something we haven't seen waiting in the wings?

Nate McKinney

I remember reading that FF7, 8 and 9 remake story. Calling it a "story" is generous, I guess. It was a blurb in an issue of I think...PSM? Maybe. I remember the distinct moment reading that and getting really psyched. Damn you Square, damn you

Bryan Finck

Great show Colin and Chris! Loved the talk about the Tom Clancy novels especially, I've been reading his books since I was 9 years old and have gone through Red Storm Rising at least 6 or 7 times, and multiple times for the rest of his main line novels. Another one you may enjoy from that same era is Red Phoenix by Larry Bond, tells the story of a second Korean War, really well done.

Anonymous

I listened to the podcast yesterday but I have some things to say because I disagree with you, Colin. Look on the topic of microtransactions and lootboxes, Colin these things are predatory as fuck and they should NOT exist. We dont need any goverment regulating them, but the problem is that I also dont trust the industry to self-regulate, this will keep on happening as long as people buy the games and the microtransactions, it is ruining the industry because when you have the possibility of making such an obscene ammount of money you build games around that concept, your game is going to have artificial grind like AC Odyssey and it is going to suck. I vote with my wallet, if a game HAS microtransactions I buy it used from someone else so the publisher doesnt get my money at all, sorry for the studio if they get a cut of the profits, but thats what I do, and I dont ever buy any microtransactions, how about you give me a whole fucking game instead? And also, day one DLC? NO. Sorry man, I just dont see how any of these things should exist.

Anonymous

I'm totally ok with this podcast lasting 2 hours. Honestly, the longer the better

MeatSpin11

If Sony really wants to get a studio that could make them an amazing asymmetrical multiplayer game they should look at acquiring or doing a 2nd game deal with Behavior Interactive, the guys who made Dead by Daylight. It’s arguably the most successful asymmetric game and the player base is huge.

Marc Boggio

I’ve compiled a bunch of footage while playing A Plague Tale and I think I’m going to use it as my next video review project. Similar to the reason I made my Yakuza 0 review, Plague Tale is very good, but probably not going to be up everyone’s alley, so it’s tough to give any kind of blanket recommendation on. It definitely does take cues from games like The Last of Us and God of War, but with a heavy focus on simple stealth, linear pathways and narrative. It’s a good length too, not super short but also not so long that it’ll take up too much of your time.

BettyAnn Moriarty
>>22773451

I like level headed disagreements/discussion. Keeps us sharp and we learn through them IMO anyway... 😉

B00ch

You talked about EA access coming to ps4, I remember back in the day doubting if it ever would. i'm mostly an xbox gamer and i use EA access, i want to say that all the EA games come to it. anthem will probably come to it soon. it has a lot of 360 games, (dead space trilogy, battlefield games, hell even bejeweled) so i feel like the ps4 version will have the least content of the three. origin access, i just checked has so many more games than even ea access on x1. you should maybe check it out, i know you like some sports games and they usually make it on there around 6-8 months after it comes out.

John Lynch

Colin, I was just curious if the 2nd party unrevealed game you’ve mentioned a few times in the past is the predator game that was revealed, or if were still awaiting a reveal

Rick Lewis

Hey Colin, on this episode you mentioned how well-designed Hitman was. I just wanted to recommend a YouTube channel called Game Maker's Toolkit, all about how games are designed. I find it to be really interesting, and most notably to why I bring this up, the video "The Making of Hitman 2's Miami Level". Thanks for all your hard work.

LastStandMedia
>>22727019

I really do think playtesting has yielded results indicating that the hold mechanic adds something satisfying while also doubling as a failsafe.

LastStandMedia
>>22758782

I can't say I notice that in the conversation, but I'm sorry that it's coming across that way to you.

LastStandMedia
>>22759763

If the creative director of Final Fantasy said Square was going to remake Final Fantasy 7, 8, and 9, it would be one of the biggest (if not the biggest) news story of the entire year. True then and now!

LastStandMedia
>>22758877

No. I heard games LIKE this were coming from second party, but never heard a name. This isn't the game I'm hearing about.

Nate McKinney
>>22759763

Oh I totally agree. I just meant in the PSM I remember reading it was presented a small news brief. If memory serves me correctly. But yes, that'd be huge and I'd be all in!

LastStandMedia
>>22773451

I respect your position, but while you're speaking with your wallet, the market at large is speaking with its wallet, too. I struggle with this argument of something being predatory, versus bad game design. The former is a serious charge; the latter is something that needs to be weeded out of the market, and will be as these different genres settle, and winners emerge.

LastStandMedia
>>22814153

Sony never buys a studio before working with it first, usually multiple times. Second party, on the other hand, is always a tantalizing option. Though I think the major asymmetric game (of sorts) is actually gonna be first party.

LastStandMedia
>>22850443

I'm hearing good things. Looking forward to playing it when I can find the time, and get through a few other things first.

LastStandMedia
>>22853468

It's surprising, but as I said on the show, I think it's Sony accepting the financial reality of staying on the sidelines. Their 30% cuts through anything running natively through their network. At some point (probably from the very beginning, in reality), it was stupid for them to stop this from coming to PSN.