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Please welcome friend and legendary game designer David Jaffe back to Sacred Symbols+. Today, Jaffe and I (Colin) convene to discuss all of the latest happenings behind-the-scenes at PlayStation. As we know, Jim Ryan is set to leave his post as CEO in early 2024, and -- thanks to Jaffe's reporting -- we've learned that long-time internal production lead Connie Booth was fired from her post after having been at Sony since the late '80s, before PlayStation even existed. Then, we have layoffs at Bungie, Naughty Dog, Visual Arts, and Media Molecule, the closure of PixelOpus years into its new (and unannounced) project, and a general tension at the center of the games-as-a-service strategy, which may or may not benefit the overall direction of the brand. Jaffe is the ultimate insider, in a sense, a man who literally helped create some of Sony's most iconic brands and understands full-well how the behemoth operates from within. What does he think about the seeming chaos at PlayStation? And how do we square the optics with reality? After all, PS5 is a dynamo, vastly outselling its competitor. Are we over-exaggerating, or are we preemptively concerned? Is something wrong, or perhaps nothing at all? We'll leave that up to you. In the meantime, let the speculation commence.

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Tom Gentry

Ohhh this gonna be lit 😮

Zeke the Plumber

Peanut Butter Jaffe Time? What a pleasant surprise!

Joey B

Oh yeah, can't wait to hear Jaffe with you again as it's always fun.

Jon Hutto

Perfect timing! I needed something to listen to. I can already tell that this is gonna be a banger!

rubber nipples 209

These are always great when he comes on. Always fighting lol

StewDog

Sorry Sacred Sweethearts, Jaddy is here to discuss business.

Craig Carter

Was wondering why Sacred Sweethearts didn't drop today lol

Big titty drinker

Horizon is phenomenal imo jaffe off his rocker with that take. Also that Ip sold 33 million so it’s actually one of their strongest Ip

Seth Zentner

Saw Jaffe and I needed to start listening immediately, such an interesting character. Love it.

MetroidIsBetterIn2D

Does Jaffe put his own podcasts on RSS feeds? I know he does youtube, but I typically stick to using my Podcast Addict app on Android.

KendrickLuck

Shout out Guns Up! Awesome game to work on, doesn't get enough credit for having Steam + Mobile support by PlayStation.

Stefan Catinella

I don't always agree with Jaffe, but damn is he smart guy! Always insightful and interesting to listen to. He could be on Sacred Symbols weekly and I wouldn't tire of him.

Ben Haner

Focused Jaffe is just as fascinating as sporadic Jaffe

Viktor

I’d say Mihoyo has cracked the formula for GaaS, they’re about to go 3 for 3.

NeO JD

Another banger. ❤️

Big titty drinker

The resentment people like jaffe seem to have for good graphics is hilarious to me. This argument that if “x game didn’t have good graphics no one would care” is silly. It’s almost a crime for a game to have good graphics these days , even if the game has excellent gameplay and story there is this crowd of gamers that act like they hate graphically impressive games. It’s super weird , like lol its okay for a game to do EVERYTHING at a high level. Also in regards to gow dlc… wasnt jaffe saying the same thing about ragnorok before it released? And didn’t that sell like 11 million in 3 months and score a 90 + metacritic? Idk man I feel some of you guys are so out of touch with what people like and want as regular gamers. Y’all view this stuff through the lenses of creatives waaaaay too much

Ronnell Leon DuBose

Actually can’t take anything about the bill maher show seriously lmao

Peter Jansen

I would be thrilled if Colin x Jaffe was one of the SS+ episodes every single week. Great show!

Michael Mashpotato

I’m getting the feeling that PlayStation is going the Marvel route. We will get 1 or maybe even 2 PS studio games per year. They already have us playing on the console and they project to sell about 25 million a year. They will make deals with 3rd party partners and depend on PS plus subscribers.

garloran .

Jaffe on the show is awesome. It’s always a banger episode when he’s on!

ZG114

I actually really enjoyed playing Drawn To Death. I thought it was a really fun take on an arena shooter.

Don

Jaffe is actually retarded if he thinks Ozempic is the reason various junk food brand stock is nose diving. Surely food prices doubling has nothing to do with it…

Perfect platypus

Some good takes in this.always good to see jaffe on, his Insight and knowledge of Industry and raw honesty make him a good fit for SS+

David Jaffe

Jaffe never said it was his theory. He was just telling you what he has read and seen in the news.

Supes

I think my concern with graphical fidelity is how it can impact budgets and timelines. I know what you’re saying—there’s nothing wrong with wanting it have it all, to have a game that both looks and plays amazing, and we should probably get away from this false dichotomy of a game only being able to either look incredible OR play incredible—but I still worry that over-investing in the highest-end, latest-gen tech is going to really drive up costs and price gamers like me (who care a little less about that stuff) out of the market. I’m actually okay with games taking a bit longer if needed—I’d rather a game come out later and be good than come out sooner and be a buggy mess—but I’d rather not shell out $150 on a new AAA game in 10 years because it has to have everything be 8K textures and have thousands of animations, and I assume you wouldn’t either. It’s simply not worth the price to me.

Asique Alam

I love these deep smart conversation about the industry straight to my veins more please

Josh Gamez

I love Horizon, but Avatar is probably the most spot on analogy possible.

James McGivern

Congratulations on the nuptials to Colin and Micah!

Mark ?️

I think the impact of impressive graphics and animation in terms of how much it impresses and immerses audiences is understated by you guys. Graphics and technology does matter to people. Why else do we have new generations of consoles? You can't tell me that in Spider-Man 2 when you're swinging at 3x the speed of the first game, RT reflections everywhere, that that doesn't impress audiences to the point where it wasn't worth the effort doing. There's a reason why PlayStation games are so revered, part of it are the stories and gameplay they offer, part of it is absolutely the attention to detail they have in their games and technology

Aaron

Always great to have a new Jaffe 1-on-1, thanks!

Jerry Huerta

Naughty dog should make a horror game. The red flair sequence in last of us pt2 was so sick

Gonçalo Ferreira

The amount of negative speculation and contradictory statements in this show was a new record.

Adam Barnes

Listening to this in mid April and when Jaffe said he “doesn’t think Helldivers is going to light the world on fire” I couldn’t help but laugh. If only he knew

Drew

Interesting retrospective. Still waiting for games.