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Please welcome writer and producer Nick Calandra back to Sacred+ for his third visit to our show. Indeed, they say the third time's a charm, and thus Nick's timing is impeccable. We speak with the ex-EIC of The Escapist fresh off the launch of his mega-successful new Patreon endeavor Second Wind. And I say 'we', because I'm (Colin) also gratefully joined by The Washington Post's Gene Park, who requested to be co-pilot alongside me as we dive into The Escapist's recent exodus, the loyalty of audiences, and the endless commoditization of content by corporations that simply do not understand the market. Such misunderstandings cause some companies to buckle under unrealistic financial weight. That's not Nick's problem, though. Indeed, we're happy to report that if early trends hold, worrying about money will be the least of his concerns, another triumph-in-the-making for independent media.

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Joe Perez

I’m so happy to hear Nick is making a smooth transition into independent work ✌️ I’ve enjoyed seeing him on the show before, I’ll definitely check out Second Wind!

Alex Castellanos

Nice. I was hoping this interview was going to happen!

Michael Mashpotato

Shout out to Nick and Second Wind. Good on them for striking while the iron was hot. I left my job of 13 years in January of 2020. The very next day I was working. Two weeks later I had my tax ID and was able to properly create invoices. All my accounts stuck with me and I even gained more once the word spread. My life never skipped a beat and it’s an absolute blessing. Congratulations to Second Wind. I just subbed to the YouTube channel.

Supes

Hell yes. Yahtzee's new show Fully Ramblomatic just dropped on YT an hour ago and it's clear these dudes didn't miss a beat. Good on them for pivoting so quickly and successfully. It's awesome to see how supportive their audience has been as well.

Michael Welter

Good stuff. Didn't really know about the Escapist but definitely saw alot of Zero P thumbnails. Gonna check them out now though. Did we ever find out what Colin was teasing with that poaching image on Twitter when that Easy Allies stuff was going down? Did they ever apologize to Dustin on their actual show? Hopefully Brad stood up for Dustin. Hell, Colin too it's ridiculous people just get away with saying shit like that.

Joseph Gedgaudas

Colin mentions in this episode that they have a new Last Stand show coming next year. Maybe it’ll be hosted by whoever they poached? 👀

Zeke the Plumber

This is a great listen. Nick sounds like a really stand up guy. I dig that. I’ll happily support Second Wind.

Joshua Brown

Having Gene on was a good addition.

Jason

Don't get the guy who made the Boogie documentary. He misspelled "holocaust" and "sympathy" in one of the text lists thing he did. Unprofessional fatherless behavior.

Dante B

I like Nick and happy for the new venture, but they are absolutely not “on track” to hit 15k paying patrons already. One day!

Devon McCarty

Second Wind is such a dope name. Their first project is gonna be a passionate one for sure. Stoked to see the Sacred community partner with a class act like Nick. Great work gents