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Live Like the World is Dying, S1E45 & 46 (Patreon)

Published:
2022-07-23 22:16:05
Imported:
2022-07

Content

In the latest episodes of Live Like the World is dying, we discuss how to get started with community preparedness, and Margaret talks with Mixael from the Four Thieves Vinegar Collective about access to different medical technologies. 

Are there topics you'd like to hear discussed on LLWD? Please reach out and let us know!

You can find all LLWD episodes on the LLWD page, the Strangers site, and wherever you get your podcasts.  

Comments

TeachersHaveJoinedTheGeneralStrike!

Hello, I am a new supporter who has been planning to support the podcast for a while now. While I love the work I don’t love what finally made me pull the trigger on joining the Patreon.

TeachersHaveJoinedTheGeneralStrike!

I am someone who needs an EpiPen and doesn’t have one, and I found the way that “Normie‘s“ who need epipens and would benefit from the Epi-Pencils were talked about to be deeply callous and upsetting. The way that people were judged for prioritizing infrastructure that lifted their mental load was honestly disgusting and I think indicative of a change in how we as anarchists do organizing.

TeachersHaveJoinedTheGeneralStrike!

I honestly had to stop listening because the way that people in my life, who are struggling and don’t have the confidence to homebrew a critical life-saving device including myself, were talked about and laughed about as “weird” sheeplike obeyance to authority was too upsetting to listen to. Maybe y’all acknowledged that after the fact, but the fact that it was said at all without being challenged was really hard for me

TeachersHaveJoinedTheGeneralStrike!

I hope this is seen in good faith, I really do love the podcast and want win a better world. And I think some of the attitudes shown in this episode are barriers to that.

Strangers in a Tangled Wilderness

hi there! Margaret here. I understand that response... I tend to not be a confrontational interviewer, but I do think I pushed back on some of that tendency in Mixael more than I usually push back against guests. I'm sorry that I softballed that too much, or perhaps didn't happen soon enough in the episode. I spent awhile (again, maybe later?) discussing with him why people might want to be able to trust other people to do things, that the opportunity for DIY is important but it shouldn't be the only means, and that some degree of specialization is actually pretty crucial. I don't know that 4thieves has the best possible spokesperson, but I do think that their work is crucial and lifesaving. (and I suspect that their spokesperson was largely chosen for the fact that they live outside the US)

SJ

I'd love to hear more about what you think are barriers here. I had mixed feelings about the episode myself and am curious to hear more of what other listeners/supporters thought about it. P.S. Thank you for speaking up <3

TeachersHaveJoinedTheGeneralStrike!

Thank you for the response, I was hoping that you might have. What really bothers me is this culture I see of wanting to be a subculture, wanting to separate ourselves from “the normies” and I saw that in spades here in this episode. But ironically I see that as a form of elitism, our grimy punk aesthetics allowing us to separate ourselves from the sheep. But if normal working class people see anarchist politics as purely for punks and lifestyle anarchists then we will have confined ourselves to the margins. Successful anarchist revolutions to the extent that they existed had a normal people who were anarchist build the Care infrastructure necessary to make anarchism a life boat for the working class to make it close to main stream