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Thank you for the support! You guys and grrls are awesome!

Man, it has unfortunately been a very long time since I drew this guy.

Dabbler is either being inconsistent here, or just complex. "Spank me hard enough to dislocate my butt cheek because I'm a succubus and I like it, but only if I know who you are and we have that kind of relationship, otherwise I'll kick you in the head with my hoof. Well, maybe. It's probably worth chancing it."

I always wondered about the mechanical differences digitigrade legs would lend you in a fight. The real differences are that the foot is longer, but the shin is shorter. The leg when fully straightened would be slightly longer I think... You can't really compare a deer's leg to a human leg that way, I just mean in an anthropomorphic animal person, at least the way I draw them, the legs would be slightly longer because they stand with their legs slightly bent.

So the different joint placement would give you some different leg lock options, like you can see Dabbler giving "Hoss" here a sort of Full Nelson, and since he's got a long horse face, she can do it from the front while sitting on his nose. I think digitigrade legs would deliver slightly less energy in a spinning back kick, because while the leg is slightly longer, it doesn't have the weight of the foot directly behind the heel like with a plantigrade leg. That said... an animal like a deer or a goat has a pretty small hoof, but an anthropomorphic clydesdale? I think he would have an advantage in a rounhouse kick.

Tangentially related to this discussion, can I just complain about the naming of the roundhouse kick? The name roundhouse really makes me think of someone spinning while doing it. I had to look it up to get the terms right in the above paragraph. For pretty much my whole life, I've thought of the roundhouse as the one where you spin and kick your heel into someone's jaw or where ever. ROUNDhouse. But no, the roundhouse is just a non-spinning snap kick, knee up, foot out, only you lean a bit so you're coming in from the side instead of just hinging your shin straight in from the front. Call that a side-snap or something.

So anyway, IMO, digitigrade legs with big fat hooves would have an advantage on the "round"house, feh. And plantigrade would be better for spinning back kicks. BUT... if it was an anthropomorphic lion, and could also claw the shit out of your face when he kicked you... That's not the mechanical advantage I was talking about, but it would be a nasty addition to a fight. You know what I wouldn't want to fight? An anthropomorphic Utah Raptor that knew Muay Thai. A Mutah Raptor, if you will.

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Vsmit

That's a Noisy Cricket.

TexasTies

Is that a Noisy Cricket in her off-off-hand?

Michael Obert

As an Incubus (maybe? male Succubus? Not sure if that got defined yet) if you're name isn't Big D, you're doing something wrong.

Chimera80

That’s funny, he doesn’t look like a chicken…?

Brenda Allen

I feel like the smaller hoof is actually going to be an advantage in terms of PSI, all the force of the impact will be concentrated on a smaller area. The Clydesdale physique likely brings more force than the deer, but on the same body the deer hoof does more damage than the Clydesdale's.

Mike

Is that a Noisy Cricket she's holding in panel 5? I kind of feel she's had one before, too. But I read so many comics and Men In Black is pretty iconic these days, I could be thinking about anything.

Greg Morrow

I think it sort of depends on what you're using the digitigrade or unguligrade foot for. If it's speed (deer, gazelle), all the mass is at the body end so you can move the ends of the leg really fast. That's low impact but high velocity as a weapon. If it's something like traction (draft horse, ox) or agility (goat), you'll have different properties. Dabbler looks to be (fittingly) a generalist, with medium-large feet, long thigh, shin and foot about the same length. An expert in animal physiodynamics would be able to give a lot more (and more correct) detail. I know just enough to be dangerous.

Stephen Gilberg

Took me a minute to realize she was compressing her boobs so they wouldn't block her view.

Torabi

A snap kick and a roundhouse are similar, with the snap kick coming off the front foot, and the roundhouse coming off the rear foot, so you do turn halfway. But yeah, "roundhouse" sounds more like a full 360. But have you heard the kind of nonsense gamers make up for fighting game techniques, or strategies, or glitches and exploits? They're usually rooted in a specific context, and made up on the fly, not out of a careful, deliberate effort at categorization.

Justaguy

A) Dabbler studies tae-kwon-leep with the "boot-to-the-head" special move. 😅. B) roundhouse kick varies depending on where from. A TKD roundhouse kick for example comes up similar to a front kick, then you pivot on the planted foot and snap it out from the side. In Karate this is more likes to be called a combination kick. Many forms of karate have the roundhouse kick brought up to the side, knee pointed closer to 60-70 degrees away from the opponent, then your pivot on the foot and roll the hip over as your straighten the knee and drive the leg through from the side. This kick tends to have more power and less "flick" then it's TKD counterpart, but may be slightly slower. It does have more flexibility in ability to vary the aim height till later in the kick if you reflexively spot an opening however. As yo can easily roll the hip that fraction more and rather than continue the kick at initial height drop it to impact lower (turning it into a powerful descending thigh kick for example). There are benefits to both forms. But what Holywood thinks of as a roundhouse is more often a spinning heel kick.

Richard Riley

Because of the way the ankle/knee bends and where the reinforcing structures are, generally speaking plantigrade is going to provide better sweep kicks and digitigrade is going to provide much stronger straight kicks. Humans will snap-kick from the side in a sweeping motion, Succubi will snap-kick from the front in a coiled motion. Also, typically a digitigrade leg wouldn't actually be comfortable kneeling as their "knee" doesn't bend as well - but one can assume that the shift to bipedal movement has changed to allow a much more hybrid leg, best of both.

William Elliott

is that a "Noisy Cricket" in her right hand...her upper right hand..no wait its lower than the right hand on her boobs... dammit, girls with 4 arms are so confusing!

eddi_TBH

Considering Hollywood and DC succubi relationship kinks fit right in on Earth. Max is an idealist.

Twister

Dabs has totally been feeling Sydney up for the last few pages.