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Extended Play Lounge Episode 24 - POLL (Patreon)

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2022-07-10 20:33:50
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Extended Play Lounge Episode 24 - POLL

  • Camel - The Snow Goose 89
  • David Bowie - Ziggy Stardust 121
  • Gentle Giant - Octopus 84
  • Return to Forever - Romantic Warrior 78
  • Jeff Wayne - Jeff Wayne's Musical Version of War of the Worlds 40
  • 2022-07-10
  • —2022-07-22
  • 412 votes
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Content

We're fresh off of Queensryche and Operation: Mindcrime in Episode 23. Now, I'm continuing with the other top three vote-getters in the last poll (because of broad support), including Camel, David Bowie, and Gentle Giant. The two new options, pulled from our list of recommendations, include Return to Forever and Jeff Wayne. 

One vote per person this time...voting goes through Thursday, July 14. Happy voting!

Comments

Christopher Arters (relative timeworx - Mr.A)

OK folks, let's work on Ziggy as a masterpiece Friday selection. On this list, if you are not familiar with Return to Forever, it consists of Chick Corea, Al DiMeola, Stanley Clarke and Lenny White - each virtuoso-level artists, collectively creating the quintessential jazz-fusion release with Romantic Warrior. This genre has been ridiculously overlooked these days, not just here but universally. This album will open a door to an entire new world if you're not already familiar - and if you are familiar, you've already voted here,

Don Mal 1

DK of NC...I enjoyed the zoom Sat. It was a lot of fun and I haven't laugh that much in a long time. I went with Camel because it's been longtime since I've heard them.

Ash Armstrong

Romantic Warrior is a gem. I remember Return to Forever doing a BBC concert for that album, on the Old Grey Whistle Test TV show, which is probably on YouTube. We were all talking about it next day at school. On the Bowie front, I actually prefer Aladdin Sane to Ziggy Stardust. I think it's a stronger album musically and conceptually. Octopus is near-flawless, and maybe my favourite Gentle Giant album, though Power and the Glory, Three Friends and Free Hand are right there with it. War of the Worlds is fun, but by its nature it's a bit uneven. Forever Autumn is sublime on any day of the year though.

Richard Karbowski

As much as I love Ziggy, it is time for more Gentle Giant. I might have suggested The Power And The Glory over Octopus, but that is a close call. It is hard for me to pick a single Camel album, but it probably wouldn't be Snow Goose. Moonmadness or Nude would be my suggestions.

Jim Reeves

I vote Octopus wholeheartedly. RTF is awesome and deserves a fusion show of it's own as well. If you haven't already heard Ziggy you must've lived under a rock for decades! Please, please, PLEASE find a metal Monday for EPICA Doug! It's high time this channel had some symphonic metal, and Simone Simons has a spectacular voice!

Ron Swirson

Return To Forever Romantic Warrior is THE album to choose, it's the quintessential jazz fusion record that is a MUST for Doug and anyone who hasn't heard it. PLEASE react to this record even if it doesn't win this time

Adrian Goodrich

Has to be Ziggy for me, as it was the first vinyl LP I ever bought, back in 1974 (previously had it on a tape). Classic album, although I would not have argued had the choice instead been the (arguably superior?) Aladdin Sane or the much heavier and darker The Man Who Sold The World. Snow Goose was the first Camel album I bought, in 1975, and I saw them perform it live in Leeds in 1977 (I think it was). Another classic album, although I would not have argued at all with their next album Moonmadness, my favourite I think. Octopus would be just fine if chosen - quite amazing. Not the biggest fan of TWOTW, to be honest. Never heard "Return to Forever", so that would be a new one for me. Interesting selection!

MrWondrous David Beckwith

I assume the Gentle Giant is outstanding, and I know Romantic Warrior is outstanding. Bowie is pretty damn good, but I would not call it outstanding. Not sure about the other ones. I can play every part of Romantic Warrior...on air drums, air guitar, air bass and air keys. Every moment is priceless. Please do the Chick eventually, as I know it will become one that you listen to often. The title cut is most excellent.

Sam

We gotta get the EPL for The Wall soon! When you do it eventually, I encourage listening to one side all the way through, not song by song, cause that kinda messes with the flow of the album/story. That said… for this one Ziggy all the way!

David Marshall

I'm on the Return to Forever train. I've heard three of the four artists live, who were each terrific solo or with other groups, and love the Return album.

Phil West Music

Ah man I think you should do War of the Worlds anyway! What a classic

Steve MacArthur

Romantic Warrior is a wonderful performance; not taking anything away from the other contendahs, but I think it's a great summer disc (maybe not as great as Pat Metheny's First Circle - always makes me think of summer) - now is the time for all good Dougs to kick it with Chick!

Walking the Path with Chris Ramsbottom

It was a very hard choice for me but in the end I went for War of the Worlds. Gotta have more of Justin Hayward's gorgeous voice here! And if you do the original, the words are read by Richard Burton - and nobody has a voice like that!

Paul Hoyle

WOTW for me too...has to be covered one day.

Newt

Tough choice but I have always loved Snow Goose, and Ziggy Stardust, And War of the Worlds...... My pick Camel

Ole Martin

A little tough choice.. With GG I prefer Three Friends, The Power and the Glory, Free Hand and even Aquiring the Taste over Octopus. With Camel I prefer Mirage, but The Snow Goose is a close second, so I gotta go with Camel this time around.

Walker Bachman

The Romantic Warrior is one of my top five albums of all time, so naturally I will push hard for this one!! Even if it doesn't win this particular poll, you've got to do the complete album one day soon. It's easily the most musical of the four on this list that I am familiar with (I've never heard the Jeff Wayne disc).

Tom Brophy

As much as Bowie is amazing. Romantic Warrior is a seminal Jazz Fusion work that truly deserves to be given all due attention.

Eduardo Alejandro del Corral Lira

Torn between Return to Forever and Octopus... this is really a great list, regardless of who comes out on top I hope we get to each at some point.

Christopher Arters (relative timeworx - Mr.A)

RTF is making a comback and my faith in the wisdom of this collective is being restored! Keep it up good people and jump on with this genre-defining masterpiece.

Arrow2theACL

Splitting the prog vote among the 3 classics hurts, but it is what it is. Bowie did get 2nd last poll, so good to see consistency in the voting.

DJ Marquis Marc Rambeau du Tacoma

Haven't from much of these bands, excepting Bowie. I do have a Gentle Giant album (Freehand? Something like that.) It's pretty good, so my choice is for G.G. Is the album listed above kind of progressive (a la early Genesis or early Yes)?

bobj

I’ve been listening to Return To Forever for more than 45 years. This album is in my top three, which is part of why I recommended it in the first place. I was jacked to see that it made it to the main list. Now, jacked again to see it finally make it into a poll. I’m elated that Dr. Doug will eventually react to this album, even though it doesn’t make it this time. This band checks all the boxes for me. All the band members are monster musicians in their own right. As much as I love progressive rock/metal, jazz fusion is prog on steroids!!! Of course, I dig three of the other four bands in this poll, but I don’t know who Jeff Wayne is. All made it this far, that means even the one I don’t know is worthy of being picked regardless of the polls. Vote for RTF, you will NOT be disappointed…I promise you!!!

doughelvering
>>87458488

I'm thinking of having a poll just on jazz fusion albums in the coming months. I think it's more fair to stack these polls against more closely aligned competitors.

bobj

I believe that idea would make sense with other genres as well.

Arpeggio Blues

I would very much love to see you put on "Return to Forever" (Romantic Warrior) Since you have NOT EVEN YET acknowledged the passing of one of the best and most imaginative fusion master keyboard artist: CHICK COREA Also alive and well, one of the greatest guitar players of the 1980s AL di MEOLA. If you don't do this one, I'm going to be disappointed that you are not introducing something incredibly amazing, tonality wise, harmonically wise and inventive and outside the mainstream but brilliant.. the drummer Lenny White, and bass Stanley Clark.. are virtuosos, and to miss it would be very sad not to expose this fine group of Dougs and all out there, to this masterpiece. Later you should hear Frank Gambale with Chick Corea, one of my earliest guitar teachers.. an all time brilliant guitarist..

bobj
>>87495160

I also meant to say something about that no one mentioned the passing of the great Chick Corea. He even won two Grammys after his passing. I also Saw Frank Gambale play with RTF along with Jean-Luc Ponty. Love Al, but this lineup crushed it as well. I’ve seen all these players several times. Either together or solo. Chick was my first concert at 16 years old. Since others seem to be recommending a lot of prog that I would, I will keep pushing the jazz fusion recommendations…HARD!!! Thanks for the fusion support, Arpeggio! I know there are more of you out there. Doug accepted two more of my recommendations. One from Al DiMeola. First track from his first album and the other from another RTF album. Vulcan World from Where Have I Known You Before.

Ray Sincere

I think Ziggy's got it by a mile. Still, I'd like to see Snow Goose covered. It's like a classical symphone played on rock instruments, to an even greater extent than a lot of progressive rock. It's in the compositions, and they way they flow into one another. And the use of the orchestra, and the sections for woodwinds. It's all so brilliantly crafted.

doughelvering
>>87495160

I personally don't have much knowledge about Chick Corea's repertoire. I, of course, know of his importance in this genre...but don't know the music. The slight is due to my ignorance and not due to a lack of respect. I'm working on it!

Arpeggio Blues
>>87495160

After your exploration with progressive rock/metal, the next big step is progressive fusion. It's a lot like progressive rock/metal, but it introduces those jazz upper chordal extensions, uses superimposition (layering bi-tonality), and brilliant solos.. I'd have to suggest a starting point is the album "Romantic Warrior" by Return to Forever (Chick Corea's band featuring master Al di Meola. Try it.. you'll like it.. hehe

Arpeggio Blues
>>87426317

Totally Agree that "Romantic Warrior" would be a great jumping-off place for Doug into the magical world of Fusion. (*LA style Fusion*)

Arpeggio Blues
>>87458488

a jaunt into Jazz Fusion would be amazing, but I would guess not a lot of your followers are familiar with this genre.. There's a lot out there, but there are some that are monumental achievements. The key with Jazz Fusion is not always the Band/Group/Ensemble.. it's the Virtuosic Mastery and Musicianship of the band players.. Many of these players will join and play with many others, it's in flux a lot. So, you have to key in on the players, Chick Corea, Frank Gambale, Steve Smith, Bunny Brunel.. get insights from the council on which musicians to explore and go from there..