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Nebula Original: Time to Pivot to Romantasy I Guess (Patreon)

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2026-06-26 16:57:53
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2026-06

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https://heresa.video/lindsay-romantasy

Romantasy: It certainly is.

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Emily Ibison

New Lindsay vids every couple months, I used to pray for times like this 🙏🏻

sam

mean lesbian who works in publishing seeing this notification: (sicko meme) yes... ha ha ha... YES

BuckTurner

Oh, I've worked on some romantasy publishing... Very curious if anyone I know will be featured.

James Rule

(Looks at thumbnail) I Think I read that one.

JAKE

The genre hasn’t been the same since Serra Ellinson dropped awoken #whereissexycthullumom

Natalie

Yaaaaayyyyyy I'm so excited for this video 😁

enchantedsleeper

Me on the Nebula homepage: hmm, let's see what to wat- OH SHIT LET'S GO

enchantedsleeper

I was half-expecting an Awoken reference, yes xD

Arielle Lyons

wow the timing of this coming out today is crazy for me. (long mushy emo post incoming) i’ve been watching your videos since high school and got inspired to make my own video essays and reviews on YouTube around that time. but when i entered college, i didn’t really have time for it anymore, and after i graduated in 2024 and got my first job, it took me a while to adjust to fit this hobby into my schedule. it was also around this time that i tried getting into reading again (another hobby of mine that school killed) and discovered sarah j maas’ first series, throne of glass. it quickly became my own My Trash™️ and i immediately knew i had to make a video about it. after about six months of trial and error, technical difficulties, and all nighters (this project was cursed and my adhd is bad), i finally posted the video, my first in over 2.5 years. it was posted on june 24, 2025, so exactly one year and two days ago. the style of the recap portion borrows heavily from your game of thrones recap and a bunch of other elements are inspired by you and jenny nicholson. it was my big (well, big for me) return to making things i’m passionate about, and i owe a lot of that inspiration to you. so now almost exactly one year later, you’re posting a video essay about romantasy books, which is a crazy coincidence and it feels like a full circle moment for me. needless to say, i am super excited to watch this one 🥹 sorry for the long post lol, i couldn’t resist.

Sarah Muder

I am elite! I can bend a spoon with the power of really hard ice cream when I just... want... to scoop out... some... ice cream!!

Sarah Muder

I read the first Sarah J. Maas ACOTAR book because of word of mouth and I was bored stiff through the first half, pretty invested in the second half. Then started the sequel. I read maybe 2 chapters, couldn't maintain interest, and just gave up on the whole thing. I love fantasy, but let's face it, it's mostly Mercedes Lackey and Valdemar, and I own that. Her Fairy Godmother book was awesome, the rest of the series pretty good. The 3-ish romantasy books I've read, just didn't cut it for me.

Deconstruction Interactive

Love the romantasy discussion, especially since I thought the genre has very pretty covers and so foolishly I assumed the books must be good :) I think your point about tropes is a good one. Tropes are a great inroad into a book, and they can, indeed, be done well -- just having a trope does not mean that book is bad. But it's somewhat discouraging to have a whole genre that is built on enemies to lovers but with very very few examples of enemies to lovers done well *in* that genre. The hope is to attract good writing with the bandwagon, even if some of it is sales slop.

Claraby

That was great, thanks!

Brady Thomas

I unironically love how much of this video is dedicated to proper capitalization cases

Michael Wyzard

I feel like some of Jenny Nicholsen's recent patreon vids prepared me for this (not a complaint).

Paulie Paul

39:08 omg 💀 Once again, Lindsay has produced a thing about a thing that I didn't previously have an interest in and I thoroughly enjoyed it. As always.

Eden

So funny that these books are now all considered “adult” or at least, have been moved from the YA section to the adult genre fiction section, because I remember vividly going to find the 2nd ACOTAR book in the YA section at my local Barnes and Noble back in 2019. I guess it’s not surprising that they’ve been moved considering the graphic sexual content but it’s weird that the whole genre is labeled as for adults now when it used to really marketed for teens.

Natalie Arnold

100% agree on the way the worldbuilding and plot fall off a cliff midway through. That is exactly my experience trying to read a few of the titles mentioned. DNF around the time the fantasy becomes set dressing for boring bickering. As for enemies-to-lovers, it definitely works better in fanfiction because then the reason the characters are enemies is in the source material. The author doesn't have to touch it, and therefore cannot screw it up. Minor aside but on watching KPDH for the first time, I really thought they were setting up Jinnu as Rumi's long lost demon father so it was very weird when they got to the rooftop duet.

Faith Hicks

I've loved fantasy all my life and only recently began dipping my toe into romance during the pandemic. I have tried a couple of the big romantasy books; some I couldn't get through (ACOTAR), some I did finish but only because I wanted to talk shit about it with my friends (Fourth Wing). (I have the Knight and the Moth on my TBR.) The way romantasy books *must* be built on the foundations of their specific tropes is so wild to me; I see reviews criticizing a book as "not being enemies to lovers" because the story doesn't follow the specific beats of how that reader interprets the trope. It sets my teeth on edge. I love books and reading and I also watched the Twilight wars go down and saw the insane sexism baked into that (nerds with "Twilight ruined Comic-con" signs at SDCC), but my god, my fellow fantasy and romance lovers, you deserve so much better that what romantasy is offering. Thanks for shouting out Naomi Novik, who absolutely rules. She co-founded A03 and writes fanfiction herself (unfortunately not about any of the ships I'm into, but if you like IRL American Idol fic, she's your author) and writes the most incredible fantasy novels I've ever read. I wish her work was held up as a model for romantasy, not ACOTAR. OT: I had a romance graphic novel about a hockey playing girl falling for a guy who's into theatre, and at my last comic-con I had someone ask if I'd benefitted from the current craze of hockey romances. Sadly, no. The trope is M/M hockey or F/M with a male hockey player and nothing else.

Sophie R.

Loved the video!!! I actually bought Axiom’s End a little while back and am planning on reading it over vacation (I actually planned on getting it based on the description and was surprised by the name!)

Inkibat

As a certified Holly Black enjoyer, I was so excited about romantasy. Then I read a few and just uh. Yeah. Yikes.

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2026-09-05 15:00 Unironically, love the open spite at that line about Avatar. ... gonna use this as an opportunity to rant- there's this tumbler post about how Naruto has done irreparable damage to our generation's social skills. "That was his jutsu" I feel like Avatar is very much the same in that respect. It's kind of infested a lot of people's writing sensibilities. ... Also, if you're on a date with somebody and they bring up Avatar, Teen Titans or One Piece, unprompted, that is an imitate red flag...
2026-06-27 04:34 Unironically, love the open spite at that line about Avatar. ... gonna use this as an opportunity to rant- there's this tumbler post about how Naruto has done irreparable damage to our generation's social skills. "That was his jutsu" I feel like Avatar is very much the same in that respect. It's kind of infested a lot of people's writing sensibilities. ... Also, if you're on a date with somebody and they bring up Avatar, Teen Titans or One Piece, unprompted, that is an immediate red flag...

Unironically, love the open spite at that line about Avatar. ... gonna use this as an opportunity to rant- there's this tumbler post about how Naruto has done irreparable damage to our generation's social skills. "That was his jutsu" I feel like Avatar is very much the same in that respect. It's kind of infested a lot of people's writing sensibilities. ... Also, if you're on a date with somebody and they bring up Avatar, Teen Titans or One Piece, unprompted, that is an immediate red flag...

Sylvie

I vividly remember that during my first mat leave I found ACOTAR in a Free Little Library and thought I'd give it a shot. I guess I thought the attrition that postpartum and sleep deprivation had wrought on my brain cells might make it possible? Anyway, on the first page, ~*Feyre*~ is surveilling "the parameters of the forest." Not "perimeter," but "parameters." So no. Not possible. Heartburn. Cold sweats. Minor stroke. Had to burn down the room in which I read that half-page. So ended my journey as a romantasy reader.

florina

Been watching your work for two decades now and recently subscribed to your channel on here! and what a treat! I was waiting and hoping you'd weigh in on the Romantasy-ification of everything! When you said you were mainly talking about your personal preferences when it comes to the enemies-to-lovers trope execution, I actually thought you brought up pretty objective good storytelling standards!! genuinely, you need actual conflict between two people to make it entertaining and meaningful!

Colby Childress

Oh man shout out for Spinning Silver. It really is excellent. Naomi Novik had a similar book a few years before called Uprooted. Not as good as Spinning Silver but still pretty good.

Natalie

Great video, love pointing out the silliness of ACOTAR. Also, Lindsay I love your books and I am very excited for the next one! Are there any updates on when it will be released?

Djinsin

This video (which I am not done with yet) has already made me appreciate Tusk Love by Thea Guanzon more. I'll be upfront and say honestly that I wouldn't have picked up this or any romantasy book if not for its connection to Critical Role (it's based on an in-universe novel that was a running joke for the 2nd campaign), but on top of being a very good story, it subverts almost every trope Lindsay mentioned. It's written in 3rd person limited from 2 pov's. The main character is a woman of privilege (and color) separated from her privilege. The main love interest is a half-orc commoner who doesn't abuse her in the slightest outside of telling her to stand up for herself. She's not afraid of being killed for her secret power, but it changing how she's perceived by her crush. No Jacobs. And it's NOT AGONIZINGLY LONG, capping at 288 pages. Great book, must read

Mandy Benanav

I know this is very much not the point of this video but I am happy to hear someone trustworthy saying good things about Naomi Novik, because she comes up a lot as a recommendation based on things I really like (A.G. Slatters work, The Winternight trilogy) *and* for stuff I really do not like (romantasy). So I've always been interested in her but highly sus Incidentally, "Lindsay's favorite SFF books of the past 20 years" would be a great vid/post!

Stormbourne

Please, PLEASE do a deep dive on Booktok and Goodreads. Hell, just do one on Goodreads. That site is wild and fascinating and I find it hard to look away from even though I was on it before it became ... what it is now. I would love a full deep dive on Goodreads alone, but I imagine it would bridge into Booktok quite cleanly.

Pumpkin

First time commenting, but I have been following your content you for a very long time <3 I have been reading a few South Korean comics and I believe their tropes will definitely be absorbed by your sponge-like-American culture in the future. European-centric , white people, conservative romantic plot, stupid protagonist, rude male character, and, of course, Time traveler female protagonist! Mark my words, they will take over. Thank u for another video, I watch them as if I am talking to a nerd friend, except that I’m a librarian in a small city in Brazil who has only been to Disney 20 years ago

Charles Haines

Hi Lindsey. Would you be interested in doing a video about the new Supergirl movie, the expected comic book tropes vs the unexpected, and about the attacks on these movies being woke?

Ash

Hey Lindsay, at the end of this video you mentioned that a lot of people found your book because of who you are, and the didn't like it. I'm glad to say that I found it because of who you are, and LOVE them. All 3 of them. The series is not one I would have usually picked up on my own, but I'm so glad I did. Truly, some of my favorite reads.

BuckHolester

Nebula wants to raw dog all my Patreon data which I’m denying so I cannot watch your videos here. I just want to give you money not get raped by data brokers. Is this where we are in the time line?

Lauren

Lindsay I have watched this, gone away and read Spinning Silver and now i have returned to say: holy fuck you weren't wrong that book was incredible. Excellent recommendation

Emma

I read a whole bunch of these before booktok became a thing and even back then got seriously burnt out by the repetition of the same story beats from the same tropes, so this video was very satisfying to me personally. One thing you didn’t touch on is how poor the actual romance usually is - they hate each other until they’re in love and you’ll know they’re in love, because they said so. It truly is junky writing.