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Willow, Katie, and Vivian participating in a chili eating contest, suggested by DarthKeidran!

Katie and Vivian haven't been drawn before, they are from concept art for Riftwall West, the spin-off series I was working on a long time ago (the series where Willow, Windstraw, and Amelia technically come from!). The designs were never nailed down. Here's some old art of them:

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Fun fact Did you know birds can’t feel spicy!

Jeremiah Fox

Ha! That's just wrong to put an avian in a chili eating contest! 🤣

UBE Chief

Oh yeah, birds can't taste capsaicin, can they?

Oswald

We all know the bird is going to win this one, also i really want to see this comic it looks like a cool concept

Shadow

Will we ever read the spin-off series?

Ranbowshep

I want to read it too

Elvenhunter84

I feel like that's the reference Tom is making here

Elvenhunter84

Oh, this is where Magpie is from too. I'd love to read all the old comics and side stories you were working on, Tom, even if they aren't finished/are abandoned. Like the Colin comic and the Split Isle novel

Hauke Sattler

Yeah, it is "intentional" to make fruits inedible for mammals but tasty for birds . Because birds spread seeds to a wider distance than mammals.

RemyHindle

Spicy, I wonder which one of them can manage to take the heat lol Also Katie and Vivian look beautiful! :)

Just a Cat

Of course the bird would be the best at this, she’s basically cheating!

Ruben Smith

What creature is Vivian called? She looks awesome.

Glenn Sellers

She looks like an anthro griffin.

Fortress120

It would be great to see a new series inspired by the world you created.

MR, ABYSS

Katie and Vivian seem nice, i am looking forward to seeing them in the future.

Hunter_emerald07

O hell nah this must up coming chapter about riftwall west maybe this Gona be epic in chapter 22 or 23 the new what idk but i hope so this just my pradictate right Mr tom

Avis Ignis

If I had a nickel for every Vivian I may or may not have a crush on, I'd have two nickels

Avis Ignis

also fellow gryphon!!

Ian

I require more Vivian 🙏

Admiral Storm

I would love to see more of this, it looks like a nice little spin-off

Drazgon

I've heard that some parrots (maybe other birds too) feed on very spicy plants, they just don't have receptors for capsicin in their tongues, so can eat even the spiciest chili without breaking a sweat. Vivian's response must be a good reference for that fact, if it's true.

TheLoreMaker

The ghosts of old projects. It is a painful price paid by the creative. For every project that sees the light of day, there are many more relegated to the recycling bin because they never came together.

Sim. Frischh

More like, the plants evolved to defend themself from other creatures but birds by developing capsicin, only the birds can eat it, helping wiht transporting the seeds in the chilis far and wide, so this is a mutually beneficial relationship. ...that is, until some weirdos came around and found that sharpness nice... Humans, SUCH a weird species, right? XD

Drazgon

What species Vivian is? A keidran? Flora didn't tell Trace about that type of keidran. Or is it entirely new and rare species? Not 'notable' enough for the list of notable civilizations. Or maybe it's a unique creature like Willow or Chimera? She looks like a chimera too, with those six limbs, bird wings and mammal paws.

Xenow Reborn

I reallly like Katie's design, it's really cute, I also appreciate the sharing of your old arts, it's always fun to see

Anonymous1988

Willow: "I'm literally made of fire and it burns! How? HOW?!?"

Your name

Keidrain Griffin, you could say

Your name

Fifty bucks to say Katie and Red are related

JIngle

As a fan of anything gryphon related/adjacent I'd love to see more art of Vivian

REDemon14

Characters are so pretty :D Vivian may be cheating, her being a birb and what have you :P

Der Burger

Can you please upload the Vivian pictures separated or add a link? They seem to be downscaled by patreon.

Sleepyboi

Get ready to see these folks come back in future sketches lol

Markius Fox

Tomatoes in particular were feared for a long time by Europeans, thinking they were poisonous (and they are, kind of).

Rook Prime

Given that birds feel no burn from capsacin, it's no wonder Vivian can just chomp that no problem.

VGR

This is new to me. I hope we’ll see more Vivian in the future. Lots more.

DarthKeidran

I love how that panned out. And, considering overly spicy chilies, bred just to induce pain, don’t tend to have much flavor, I love how you twisted the suggestion. Fantastic work as always Tom!

DarthKeidran

That was actually part of my suggestion, pointing out avians aren’t affected by capsaicin. Actually, it would make her a good prison guard or police officer in the “modern AU” because she could just roll into a cloud of O.C. and make an arrest without batting an eye, where others would be choking and coughing from the stuff (firsthand workplace experience in that statement). Not to mention one of those early sketches indicates she works as security for the tavern.

DarthKeidran

That was a little bit of the reason for this suggestion. XD

DarthKeidran

Same. I’d like to see more of both Vivian and Katie.

DarthKeidran

Yep. My thoughts exactly. I originally wanted Vivian to be commenting about loving the flavor, but, Tom correctly thought about the fact that most ridiculously over the top spicy peppers don’t actually have any meaningfully good flavor.

DarthKeidran

That would be an interesting story to see if that is the case.

DarthKeidran

My understanding is that she’s an avian species of some form, unique from Keidran. Given some other comments, we’ll probably see more suggestions that ask for more details.

DarthKeidran

Shh! Katie, Willow, Windstraw, Amelia, and any other offscreen participants don’t need to know.

DarthKeidran

That, precisely, was a component of the suggestion.

DarthKeidran

Shh! None of the other participants need to know. XD

Louis Richards

Apparently the seeds of peppers pass through the digestive systems of birds, allowing them to spread the seeds widely. Rabbits, on the other hand, digest the seeds. So a plant based chemical repellent for mammals that does not chase away the birds was a nice evolutionary step. But then, along come these weird apes that seem to really LIKE the hottest peppers, and they also digest the seeds... but they also developed something they call "agriculture", so the seeds get even MORE widely scattered. Who could have predicted?

DarthKeidran

They show full scale in the app for me. Usually sub-images get attached to the twokinds.gallery site, so, if they aren’t there yet, they might be soon.

mustangdrew4

Me too! Vivian kinda reminds me of an anthropomorphic Gryphon.

wjd1206

Knowing Tom had said the twokinds story is finite, I'm truly hoping that the 'Riftwall West' project will come to fruition and keep some of the original characters around as well as brining us new adventures and characters to fall in love with! I'm sure most of us agree...

SCD

Don't worry Katie, you won't die from eating a Ghost Pepper, but you probably will after eating a Pepper X.

Ariffet Orlase

Someone's taking advantage of their bird biology.

Sadira

As a griffin aficionado and appreciator, I absolutely adore Vivien.

Carmeops Renard

except, spiciness is felt in the input ... and the output.. it seems to me that her bird part that is immune to spiciness is only in the input..

Der Burger

They're in webp format for me. Also the compression is very high. Thanks for the gallery site but i couldn't find Vivian there. Maybe she's hidden in older posts or i just missed it. Edit: I must retract my previous statement. Looks like they're now there.

Ordithus

Katie is CUTE! I really like the character design for this setting, they are all interesting.

Swendle

Where can I request?

Devoted Archon

Omg I need to see more of Vivian STAT

Xhan

We need more Katie and Vivian, and that tavern "Mom"

eddi_TBH

Vivian doesn't have taste buds, does she? That's why birds can chow down on hot peppers. As for Katie... just handling it stings.

Tazer Silverscar

Ooooh, Willow is a bit different from her concept - in a good way of course. I'd like to know more about the bookkeeper, there seems to be something of a 'Little and Large' thing going between her and the barkeep, lol.

Joshu Kel'Machan

Personally, I think it’s completely crazy to breed chillies that are extremely hot but have no real flavor. That’s the kind of idea only those weird naked apes mentioned above could come up with… When I want it hot, I use the small red Thai peppers we grow in our garden — they’re fiery, but also full of flavor. That’s the art of cooking: a scorching hot crab curry where the delicate aroma of the crab meat still shines through, even alongside the heat of the chillies. But just my two cents ...

Joshu Kel'Machan

Let's hope the crew will travel trough the riftwall gate and encounter this folks on the other side, so they become canon ...

ThirdKind

If you ever need a break from Twokinds Tom a one shot of this might just be the thing

ijuinkun

It's my understanding that Ghost Peppers are just about the hottest of the ones that are NOT specifically bred for heat over flavor.

Chakat ShadowWalker

OMG I need to see more of these characters! They look so cool!

Tiglish

May god have mercy on their tongues

Earendil

They don't have the type of receptors on their tongue that bind with capsaicin. And while birds have far fewer taste buds than humans (and mammals in general), they do have some taste buds.

Professor Ryuusei

Hey Tom, are you writing the Riftwall Tavern as a novel? And if you are, where can I read it?

Tyler Dollarhide

Vivian is lucky since birds can't taste capsaicin, so she'll be fine. The others though.

Tyler Dollarhide

It's specifically capsaicin that they can't taste. The plants actually want only birds to eat them, as birds are good at eating fruit but not digesting the seeds (and thus helping spread seeds).

DarthKeidran

True. But it’s not like anyone other than Vivian would really be able to tell the difference by taste.

Swendle

Like, how can I request Tom to draw an image?

IvyReed

I've known Katie for all of 4 panels, and she's already amazing! She's not my favorite just yet, but give it time!

DarthKeidran

You’ll need to subscribe as one of Tom’s patrons. $10+/month. Usually each week (aside from color weeks and tom being out for big events) tom posts a form to submit suggestions.

Peanuts

I love Katie's design! Super cute :)

eddi_TBH

Can Willow taste anything?

Ranbowshep

Yeah, for example, the big events are ones like San Diego Comic-Con, and other conventions.

Tiglish

Good to know

Thomas Fischbach

Yeah, I'd still love to make Riftwall a thing in one form or another! One day!

Professor Ryuusei

You should try tapas or Wattpad if you’re gonna make it in novel format. I hope you’re gonna have a great plot for the characters.

wjd1206

I'm sure Tom's plot and story will be great! But I know first hand how hard it is to write a novel...

wayne sampson

Would some of the characters from two kinds make a cameo or something like that?

MS Studios

What will you make next anthro Earth Ponys, Unicorn ponies, and pegasus pony from My little pony: friendship is magic and Anthro Balto character cameo appearance?

StaggyTheBoyscoutSlayer

It is so nice to see these "new" characters. I love the cat (is it windstraw?) in the sketches

Carmeops Renard

now, the question with anthropomorphic characters is to which degree goes the human attribute in them in this case, they have the taste buds of a bird but other bird-like character might inherit a more human-like tongue and be able to experience the burn

Went Brown

Is Vivian a griffin?

Joe

Whoa!!! Lore drop!