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Cat Nora and Clovis (Patreon)

Published:
2019-06-27 23:30:55
Edited:
2019-06-27 23:33:04
Imported:
2026-06
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#4 Color vote for June, suggested by Iago24!

Also, sorry about the images being small. It seems like Patreon is having some technical difficulties with full-res images, hopefully it's temporary. In the meantime, I've attached the file below, along with a version without any text on it.

Edit: Oh, looks like Patreon fixed it!

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Comments

Elvenhunter84

Busy day today, or needed to finish up the coloring on this one? Also, is there going to be a stream this week, or are the 2 streams going to be after all the conventions are over?

Wind Walker

Dammit Cat Nora, stop being so effectively distracting!

Tharkis

Me-ow! Cat-nora is purr-fect

DiDiDi-X

Let me just add this to my PC background collections.

Galadhrim

Nice, those red eyes though..........

MoppyPuppy

So apparently in TwoKinds it pays to be a villain, if evil is involved the characters are able to touch more than their protagonist counterparts. Refutations welcome.

K.O. PRODUCTIONS

Cat-Nora is going to have a very successful career on patreon!

AstroChaos

Hmm, no refutation found. Your logic tracks.

DiDiDi-X

Is she controlling Clovis?

Markvincible

I think cat Nora has become one of my favorite patreon characters

Silent Thunder

Yup, judging by the “other side of the collar” comment, and the collar itself (both the presence of and that spark of magic visible in the color version)

Silent Thunder

Wow, the text sure changed a lot from the original scetch

metalman20

I’m not sure if i should be scared of cat Nora but.........oh boy

JsTheWolf

That boob sandwich looks great XD

Zxios

Please include the files on every post! Its impossible to download on mobile

Estragon

I am getting mighty fond of Cat Nora.

Linxan

I expect this to be an unpopular opinion, but ... I'm actually getting pretty uncomfortable with how often we're seeing Clovis getting violated in one way or another, on the implied premise that turnabout is fair play, or that he's getting his just desserts. That's not how justice works. Even a villain deserves simple bodily autonomy, and Nora is showing an unpleasant penchant for disregarding that. Yes, it's a fictional, a joke, not even canonical to the main storyline, but it's still the kind of thinking that I'd rather not support, let alone pay for, and it makes us look bad as a fan community that we keep suggesting it.

Spartan277

In my humble opinion, You lose your rights, bodily autonomy included when you violate someone else's. Turn about should be justice. You murder someone, you pay with your life, You make people wear slave collars? You get one, You sell people into sex slavery? You should have an exceptionally painful death, because you are absolute scum and don't deserve to live in a civil society when you're a monster.

coredumperror

>it makes us look bad as a fan community that we keep suggesting it. Don't kink shame. It makes you look bad as a member of a diverse fan community.

Linxan

Wow. No, if it's gonna get rapey, I reserve the right to be disgusted and privately judgemental of those who are into it. I may have misstepped by being so public about it above, but I don't believe that overriding someone else's dignity _against their will_ is kink, because the kink scenes I know are all about consent above all. Clovis' clearly states his lack of consent here, so it is violation, not "kink".

Linxan

It's easy to paint anyone as a monster in a society that operates that way, Mr. Stewart. By the plan you've described, Trace Legacy really ought to be long dead by now. Do you make any consideration of the chance for rehabilitation? Is Trace a special case? Criminals should be punished, yes, or there will be no reason to heed laws. But if there is no hope of return after a massive failure of judgement, if there is no hope of learning from one's mistakes, then there is no reason for any criminal of a certain severity to ever stop committing crimes.

Kaija

gorgeous *w*

Spartan277

Trace was corrupted by magic in a bid to bring his wife back from the dead. Clovis is just an asshole sex slave trader. Not a good comparison. Also ..just to let oyou know? Particualr people who have killed millions, have thought they where doing the right thing and that they where not monsters. People who do things like engage in sex slave trade or murder casually, don't do so because they haven't learned its bad, they do so because they are broken and unfit to operate in a world with people who are not. There's plenty of reason to NOT commit the crime when you know that you'll be punished in the same way you did in your victim. And as for "Oh but what if they learn not to?" yeah, and how many people died from it? how many people got their lives ruined because it took a while for that person to 'learn' No, sorry, your "But what if" doesn't work and apply here, I will pick the lives of those obeying the law and standard human decency vs a monster who inflicts harm on others. Every, Single, Time.

Foxhole

Ah, Joseph's just salty because his favourite rifle to masturbate into left him for someone who can grow a real moustache

Iago24

On one hand, I'm super glad that my first suggestion got picked for a colored version, on the other hand I'm disappointed because Feline for Sale 2 didn't, and I think it was even better than this one.

coredumperror

WTF? "Rapey"? Where the hell are you even coming up with that idea? It's YOUR mind that's in the gutter if you think there's any chance that Clovis's situation is ever going to get "rapey" on this Patreon. I just like guys getting turned into sexy chicks.

Linxan

Joshua Stewart: That's a good point. Trace is a poor example for this argument, because of the circumstances by which he came to commit his crimes. I think that knowing the punishment for any crime is essentially to have the same done to you only works if the criminal believes they are likely to be caught. It does get a little tricky in a fantasy world such as that of the comic, of course, since there are well-known higher powers (e.g., Nora, for one) who can easily do pretty much entirely as they please. It would make me nervous if I thought a dragon might wish to take a personal interest in me, especially if that interest was focused on corrective or punitive action. I'm not saying that we shouldn't choose to protect and seek justice for those who act with decency in favor of trying to fix those who hurt others. I'm saying that simply measuring back to someone the harm they inflict on others doesn't make the world any better. But I may be too idealistic, honestly. There probably needs to be some balance between precise punishment and ideal rehabilitation in order for the world to be as safe and just as most would like.

Linxan

Coredumperror: Well, no, I certainly don't think that Tom would draw Clovis getting raped. What I meant by the term "rapey" is that the actions are not dissimilar to rape — coercing or physically forcing someone into performing or submitting to actions against their will, especially actions of sexual or sexually suggestive nature, such as is the case here. I don't find it a stretch to say this sits on the edge of "rapey". It's far from the "rapiest" thing out there in fiction (or even on Patreon, I suspect), and I have no particular love for Clovis as a character, either, but I stand by my statement that this image does not depict a situation that will improve anything for anyone. Justice, in my mind, is a process by which what is wrong is set right. I don't believe that putting a slave collar on Clovis and forcing him into a humiliating situation would make him any more likely to change his ways. If anything, I think it would just make him more careful about how he does his business and even more bitter toward those who seek to stop him. I supppose it makes a little bit of a difference to me whether Nora believes that she's actually teaching Clovis a lesson here or just enjoying herself at his expense. In the context of fiction, I'm much more comfortable with the idea of a character who is vastly more powerful than those around them and likes to toy with others just because they can than one who thinks they are teaching when they are simply punishing. It's much easier to watch someone play for their own fun than to watch them fail at teaching simply because they haven't thought it through, especially when they are clearly smart enough to lack excuses.