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Aaron is joined by two CIA veterans—John Kiriakou and Barry Eisler—to discuss the late imperial mania of the US deep state. John Kiriakou is the former CIA officer who blew the whistle on the agency’s illegal torture program. Barry Eisler is also a former CIA officer and a bestselling novelist. His newest book is The System.

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Mike

Kiriakou states Israel had intel they didn't share. I've read accounts where FBI agents blame Saudis like Bayoumi. They act like 9/11 didn't take place in the US. Kiriakou has never explained why al-hazmi and al-mihdhar were protected for 20 months by Alec Station. Did Mossad tell Blee and Wilshire to stand down? Did Mossad order the UBLU to assign a rookie agent to conduct a routine intel side investigation? Kiriakou is a skilled communicator. He is hard to dislike. But he isn't forthcoming on 9/11.

JB

Done with Kiriakou. He can be as charming and smooth as all gets, but he's really unveiled himself in the past year as a limited hangout.