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Labyrinth - Patreon Version (Patreon)

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Jay Davis

Let's do some muppets this A.M.

Nathan Jasper, the Artist Formerly Known as Primary

I can tell you I do not introduce myself through city and state because I hate my city and state so I will never admit I'm from here if I don't have to 😂 but I'm also one of millions. I think a lot of Americans introduce themselves by state or location is because of socialized stereotypes. Someone says they're from New York then you automatically think Times square and Broadway. Someone says they're from Georgia then you think of the South and Hicks and rednecks. Someone says Texas you think Wild West and guns and blowing shit up 😂 someone says Arizona you think 'must be hot there!' 😂 someone says Nevada then you think of Vegas. so it really does depend. I think a lot of Americans introduce themselves by state to help you have an idea of what's near and what it might be like there. Or they're just really proud of where they come from. And perhaps they say city as well so you don't just assume NYC or Vegas or typical tourist destinations? I'm not sure about that part.

Mister_Momus

It's because we introduce ourselves to other US Americans with city/state, so it's habitual.

JakeyShakeyBakeyBoy

First saw this super baked and was the right move as a late teen haha. That aside the imagination and puppeteering in this film are amazing. The MC Esher sequence is still terrific even today. Always loved how Terry Jones from Monty Python had a big hand in the screenplay too! Also Aussies from rural areas when they get in the city will often tell us where they’re from when introducing - happened to me three times this week for work for instance lol

Elvenwitch
>>140355977

I agree. Each area has such a predominant stereotype that it is such a shorthand.

Odd Thomas

Jennifer Connelly was a lot of boys first crush. Then she made The Rocketeer, The Hot Spot and Career Opportunities and a legend was born.

miniature
>>140356189

i dont think thats uniquely American lmao. every person from every country has to say which part of the country theyre from when meeting someone else from their country... if 2 brits meet for the first time, they dont just say "hi im brian from the UK, and im jen from the UK!" lol

Odd Thomas

Another great fantasy movie is Stardust (2007)

Amos T Fairchild

Because the states have a name. The country doesn't really have a name. It's just a bunch of not very united states. lol. My parents were from Louisiana by the way. Not the US, just Louisiana.

Amos T Fairchild

I will say Queensland Australia because Australia is a big place and I have lived in that state all my life, in three towns.

Keith Jones

I'm with Simone on this, I don't think I've ever introduced myself. If I'm asked "where are you from" my general answer is a bad impersonation of Christopher Lambert "Lots of different places". More seriously, it would depend on where I am. If I'm here in the US I would probably say "Kentucky". I wasn't born here and honestly spent more time away from here than I have spent here. If I'm overseas I would answer "The US".

Jacob King
>>140359279

Yeah, his mother, Wendy Froud, is also a legendary fairy/fantasy artist and was a designer on this film. They started working on it before they were even pregnant and his whole life at the time of shooting had been spent around the goblins and in the workshop. Obviously it had some effect because he now designs goblins but it seems to have been a great environment for a baby.

Jeff I.

Sorry for the wall of text, but I find your intro discussion pretty interesting. I imagine there's actually a lot of variation in how Americans would answer that question. Like you alluded to, it probably depends on if they're from one of the big, well-known cities like Los Angeles or New York or a smaller city in a lesser known state like a Fort Dodge, Iowa. When I'm traveling outside of the US, I always simply say 'America', if asked where I'm from. I'll then say Texas if they ask for specifics, but I won't assume they're familiar with my city, so I don't say that unless they ask (maybe they've traveled to Texas so they're familiar). When speaking to other Americans, I'll obviously just say the state, and then if they ask which part I'll tell them the city. As to the follow-up question, if I moved to Las Vegas and a couple of months later someone asked me where I'm from, I'd just Las Vegas for simplicity sake, but obviously if the conversation goes longer/deeper (or they say they're a fellow Texan), then I'll mention being originally from Texas. Ha, I just caught myself wondering why I wrote "fellow" Texan there, when I now live in Nevada and am technically not a Texan. I think it's because in America, the states all really have their own identity, so whichever one you've lived in the longest is probably the one you'd feel most emotionally a part of.

Young Blood Priest

Gary Indiana is a real place. It’s just outside of Chicago. By the way I’m Young Blood Priest from Indiana. 😁

ghostmoan

Oh George of course it’s fine that you don’t know a whole lot of David Bowie’s music. I mean it’s just the internet, it’s not like we’re gonna call for— BURN HIM! BURN HIM!!

Dioskur

About naming the detailed place youre from when introducing yourself: I am from Germany and I am used to just saying Germany. But most of the time the first question I ask anyone I meet online and that someone who meets me will ask me is "where in [country name]". And I try to make it easy for people to know where it is. I am fairly sure no person from outside Germany will know my city. So I only say Northrhinewestphalia and if I dont get an instant reaction I say "thats in the middle, not the coast, not bavary but the industrial part in the middle." If I talk with someone from another european country I'll ask something like "somewhere near [whatever place I know]". The USA has so many known places that there is a reasonable chance that people will know whereever youre from. And, sorry George, for places like China that just isnt the case. I know Bejing, HongKong and I'd know if people said "close to the border to..." and thats it. So for few other countrys it makes sense to name the place

PaulChristopher

Americans mostly meet other Americans. When someone from Georgia goes to Vegas for a bachelor party and meets some people in town for a 21st birthday, if they ask where each other are from, the U.S. isn't really an informative answer.

PaulChristopher

A labyrinth, I believe, is not a maze. It's one path, twisting around itself with no choices. You walk it for meditative purposes.

Patrick Egan

Americans in general have always had a very strong sense of regional identity and pride. We didn't start as one country after all, but as a union of former colonies that were used to operating pretty independently. How big a role the federal government should have compared with the states was one of the earliest political debates in our country and remains one of the biggest to this day. And the differences aren't just between states, but often within states too. In the state where I live, Virginia, there's a BIG cultural difference between "Northern Virginia", i.e. the part closest to Washington DC, and the more rural southern areas. So just telling someone I'm from Virginia doesn't actually say a whole lot.

Elvenwitch

I saw this movie when it came out and I was 9 and have loved it ever since. I met one of the students taught by the contact juggler. He was so impressive.

Paul G

As for the American conversation, keep in mind the US was formed from 13 individual colonies that were all established by different groups with unique charters and goals; they were essentially 13 separate countries to use modern principles. The uniqueness of each colony was baked into the unified nation via the establishment of the states, each of which have their own constitutions. The state constitutions are inspired by our federal constitution, but each is unique to the individual state. Most non-Americans refer to us simply as Americans, inferring a single peoples but, the reality is we are a union of 50 individual states. The best way I could describe it is to think of the US as a more unified version of the EU. Also, yes there is a Gary, Indiana. It is a suburb of Chicago. I wouldn’t recommend visiting. It was a former industrial powerhouse and was, for a time, one of the biggest cities in the US. It started to fall on hard times after WWII and over the past 40 or so years it has declined to a shell of its former self.

Sir Didymus

Finally! I have waited a long time for this movie reaction. Thanks for a good time. Best wishes m'lady and good sir.

MikeBdrx

I just wish I live long enough that when someone asks me where I’m from “Earth” would be the appropriate answer.

YukoValis

So to answer something during the Fireys. The Wizard of oz books were not a dream. Really they barely have much in common with the famous 1939 movie. I would consider the wizard of oz books more horror and twisted based.

MoonageDaydream

I somehow completely missed the memo that you were reacting to this. So glad you enjoyed it!! One of my fave childhood movies. The Bulge™️ is iconic 😂

Spacedone

Ok you've definitely got to do The Dark Crystal now. A bit darker story with even weirder Henson puppets.

Cinebinge
>>140360772

so interestingly, the day after this reaction was filmed is when i went to Greece, and it was in Crete where i then learned the origin of the Labyrinth and it is neither a maze or just 1 path. its actually the palace of Knossos and its many many rooms across many different floors, with the biggest chamber near the bottom where the royal family lived for temperature reasons, but the theory is that the ancient Greeks saw this ruin (as it was already over 1000 years old by Homers time), and created a myth around it as a labyrinth with the a minotaur at the very bottom in the biggest chamber. and the whole reason for the minotaur myth is because the Minoans saw bulls as sacred animals.

Cinebinge
>>140362662

earthborn would be such a great thing to have on a passport. i suppose the inner grass being greener on the other side part of me would be envious of those with spacer or Andromeda on their birth certificates..

Spacedone

To be fair, most times I've heard of anyone talking about how this movie was their sexual awakening movie, they're usually talking about David Bowie. All I can guess is that it was either the masquerade ball scene that did it or the Bowie Bulge... :D

Justtired

George, you’re right. I had a big crush on Jennifer Connolly back in the day. And Simone, you’re also correct. Kevin Clash (Elmo) does several voices in the film including the weird, head removing characters

Hans Czajkowski Jørgensen

regarding your question, George, I would present myself as 'living in [current place]', and if it becomes relevant to the conversation 'originally from [childhood place]'

China Andronicus

It sounded like you missed when Sarah was telling her story to Toby that Jareth was in love with her, but that's very much part of the film. It's highly suggested during the masquerade scene, amongst others. Sarah is definitely a bit bitchy but it's also easy to understand the reasoning behind some of it. Simone pointed out a bit with her father moving on to her stepmother, but there's more pointed out. Sarah mentions how she is never asked if she has plans, just told that she has to watch Toby. Her dad also said he was going to come talk to her and then all he cares to do is give her instructions for watching the baby, which isn't great parenting.

REDR58
>>140358424

The country does indeed have an official name, the “United States of America” credited to Thomas Jefferson and ultimately “…the words ‘United States of America’ appeared in the first draft of the Articles of Confederation on July 8, 1776, as it was submitted to Congress.” And: “On Monday, September 9, 1776, the Congress moved to approve some important resolutions, including payments for the army. The fifth resolution read as follows: “That in all continental commissions, and other instruments, where, heretofore, the words ‘United Colonies’ have been used, the stile be altered for the future to the “United States.”” https://constitutioncenter.org/blog/today-the-name-united-states-of-america-becomes-offici EDIT: And fun fact, the US does not have an "official language," at least on the Federal level, though some individual states do have English as the "official" language: https://www.usa.gov/official-language-of-us

REDR58
>>140356626

Simone and George should definitely check out “The Rocketeer” from 1991.

Crow

Watching this takes me back to my childhood also. A lot of our movies back then were a bit darker and more creepy than what you would normally have for kids now. If you are into this kind of movie, I would really recommend The Dark Crystal and even the Netflix series Dark Crystal, which was a prequel series of sorts. It only has one season...I don't think it's getting a second, but I really liked it.

Fernando Alamán

Not gonna lie, not the kind of reaction I was hopping/expecting. Maybe he was tired/jet-lagged from his vacation, but George seemed really not feeling it (Amelie/E.T. vibes). Maybe he just didn't like Labyrinth that much, which is totally fair. Or maybe it's just that this movie is too precious to me, I don't know. Thanks for doing it anyway, of course.

Kelley Leary

Fun fact for Simone. Gates McFadden (Dr. Beverly Crusher on Star Trek) was the choreographer for this film. She’s credited as Cheryl McFadden (her actual first name; Gates is her middle name).

Chase Lonnergan

As an American, and someone with a deep passion for studying American cultural heritage, the reason for introducing oneself by city and state is fairly simple: it makes a huge difference. I am a Texan, which is hugely different from being a New Yorker geographically, culturally, and even philosophically. There is a New York City mindset, and there is most definitely a Texas mindset. Both of which are different from Louisiana, California, Kansas, Florida, etc. People also have pride in their states and regions, because of those differences. The US, as a country, is so large that we even see how regions make us different. New England, the Deep South, Appalachia, Texas, the Southwest, etc. The easiest way I can relate it to the Canadian experience is Quebec vs British Columbia, which are two radically different places. The Fierys sequence was supposed to be about responsibility over fun. They were singing a whole song about shirking responsibility and doing whatever you want while being chaotic and dangerous. The filmmakers just never explained that. At all.

Jon Burrows

David Bowie’s son Duncan Jones is a director that has done some really good movies including Moon and Source Code.

Monica Alarcon

Oh good!, Sarah and Hoggle go to White Castle...

Terdell Ferguson

I love this reaction more than I had a right to. Haven't seen this film in a long time and watching it with what I consider friends was really fun. The where's Waldo ending in the crazy scene right out of the poster/painting/drawing was awesome. I mean look at it, Sarah puts on a Waldo hat at the start of the movie and Toby is full-on Waldo outfit... coincidence? Anyway, thanks George and Simone for this one. Now on to FREE GUY!

Monica Alarcon

I was like: "when are they going to realize that they mention Sir Didymus in every video???" and they finally did in the last seconds...

punterjoe

Have you guys seen "The Man Who Fell To Earth"? It's very indie & artsy, but it's one of Bowie's iconic roles (so much so that in Fringe - one of the villians was named after Bowie's character) It might not be CineBinge worthy, but on your own time, you might enjoy - or at least appreciate - it.

REDR58

George, another thing to remember is that more than one US state has a population that exceed that of some smaller countries. And California's population is (slightly) greater than all of Canada.

Zero Cochrane

Who’s never heard of the Muppets?’ What the heck!? LOL

Joey Jo Jo JR Shabadoo

I'm from the middle of nowhere in the uk and I just say I'm from Bristol because its the closest city that someone might actually know even know its still like an hour from where I'm from lol . its also easier for an American to mention a city to someone whose not from the country because American media has meant that most people know basic American geography in terms of big cities and stuff compared to countries that don't really export all their media meaning that people might only know the capital city of the country so it would just make things easier to just say the country.

Patrick Egan
>>140364632

I love The Dark Crystal SO MUCH, the only movie that ranks higher than it on my all-time faves list is Casablanca. And the 4K blu-ray of it is freaking GORGEOUS :)

Jonas Buckner

If you're from Edmonton, and you go to Toronto, and someone asks, "Where are you from?" do you still say, "Canada."? "Like, no shit, we're all from Canada. We're all from Earth. We're all from the Sol star system. 'Where in Canada' is what I mean, obviously." When someone inside the US asks, "Where are you from?" I don't say, "The US." During my first time in Europe as an American, it was a hard habit to break not to mention my state when asked where I was from because all my travel up to that point had been within the US. Most travel Americans do is within the US. Also, just to mention, my home state of Tennessee is about the same size as Denmark, over twice as large as The Netherlands, and almost 4 times larger than Belgium, and it's only the 36th-largest state. Someone saying they are from a country in Europe is somewhat analogous to being from a state in the US. And there's 55 different answers to the question in the US (50 states, 5 territories), compared to 44 countries in Europe and 13 provinces/territories in Canada.

Grand Moff Slackin'

Taking some time to listen to some Prince and Bowie music would be well worth the effort. You can keep it simple and start with their greatest hits. 🎶 🎵

Guy Gordon

I think there's another reason that US people usually use city/state in introductions. A majority of us rarely ever travel outside of the country since there's such a huge variety of different kinds of stuff and climates in-country to go to and you don't have to deal with customs and all that, so we often just travel around the US. My passport has been expired for decades. As such, it's pointless to say the country in those circumstances, so we develop the habit of city/state, or just city if you live in/by a known one. In my case, on the rare instance of not being in the US or talking to somebody who is from elsewhere, I just say "from Chicago". I don't even bother with the state of Illinois or the Chicago suburb I'm actually from. For one, people are FAR more likely to know Chicago than Illinois. I also still don't bother with the country, as people tend to at least know Chicago is in the USA. Only when I'm talking to locals would I state which suburb of Chicago I'm from, etc.

Patrick

I think I'm gonna have to be really really bored if I come back and watch this movie. I only watched the trailer, but it doesn't seem like something I'd like. Looks goofy.

Wally Hartshorn

I think Sarah is supposed to be about 16 years old, and the movie sort of touches on the transition from childhood to adulthood. As part of that transition, there are some hints of awakening sexuality. The dreamlike ballroom sequence in particular has that undertone, with the other partygoers giving off an aura of coarse vulgarity. And, of course, near the end, the goblin king tells Sarah that if she obeys him, he will be her slave. Everything is just hinted at, of course, but that's how it always seemed to me.

Thirty Year Old Mulberry Field
>>140378228

Great sci-fi flick, funny enough that was my introduction to David Bowie, way before I got into his music. Unless you count the cover of “Changes” in Shrek 2.

Our Patrons thought we were a myth. Well... They were MYTH taken.

🖤I would say us here in the U.S. adding city and state in our intros may be more common when the intro is to another American since that info is relevant to them. Personally I just wait and see if they say (an American or someone not from the U.S.) "oh? where from?" then I'll add the state and nearest major city. Americans may do that to Canadians as well since yall are neighbors and they think you may have heard of the city state. But even giving that information from American to American may just be more of an "us" thing since George said he doesn't do that to other Canadians. I just don't imagine Americans will do that if they travel overseas, and say meet a German, I don't think they would give their city and state in their intro. For the most part at least. Some might thinking it will make them appear more friendly I guess.

Scott McClintock

"Hmm... I'm not sure we wanna pay for a dimension we're not gonna use."

Cinebinge
>>140385063

im always a little hesitant with musicians of that caliber and belovedness... what if i actually dont like it upon listening. i fear the repercussion lol

miniature
>>140383085

i think hes talking about americans meeting ppl from other countries. not 2 ppl of the same country meeting each other...

miniature
>>140379548

i think you misheard? he said hes never seen. not never heard of. but also, theres 8 billion ppl on this planet, theres DEFINITELY people whos never heard of the muppets. in fact i wager theres more people whos never heard of the muppets in this world than there are those who knows it.

Cinebinge
>>140370618

sorry to hear that! but i did enjoy it if not emoting as such! though i dont doubt that if i am a kid instead of an adult, id enjoy it a LOT more, but that doesnt mean i didnt have a blast watching it :)

Anthony Villena

I say Texas too because that's almost always the next question after I say the US, probably because of my accent. And if they press further I usually do a heavy sigh and say "my grandparents are from the Philippines" because that's often more what they're getting at.

Cinebinge
>>140368399

that all makes sense! thanks for the explanation! though as much as i understand where thats all coming from, a part of me (George) cant help but feel a gap in being able to relate to it haha. mostly just in the fact that as a kid/teen she gets to even complain or talk back in such a way in the first place. a person is made up of their own past/experiences, and for me the Asian up bringing is, if youre told to do it, you do it. theres no if or fairness or what I as a kid wants lol. do it or get belted, the concept of "never asked if i had plans" would have never entered my mind at that age as a possibility. 😅

IncredibleBulk

if asked where im from or stating where im from i will give a generic England when interacting with people online that can be anywhere in the world. if im speaking to people in England and saying where im from, similar to Simone i still count that as where i was born even though ive not lived there for 20 years. But its a place thats quite small and nobody really knows it so i say im from near Birmingham (the closest large city to my actual place of birth)

IncredibleBulk

also yes if you always keep a wall on one side of you and follow it you will eventually find your way through. but this is very indirect and would likely take a long time especially in a large labyrinth

REDR58
>>140385358

You should give it a shot! You just might end up liking it.

REDR58
>>140385331

I haven’t even been outside of Pennsylvania for the last five years. Part of that was Covid of course.

Jacob King

The difference between a labyrinth and a maze is a little fuzzy. The etymology of labyrinth comes from a Greek name for a type of axe and refers to a branching path and maze comes from the same root as amazing and describes the experience of being lost. It’s the classic English problem of having a composite language. This was a foundational movie for me as a child, along with the TV show Jim Henson’s Storyteller which used a similar mix of puppetry and live action to retell myths and fairy tales. The fire gang is my least favourite sequence but of course that’s Kevin Clash (Elmo) doing a voice. They represent peer pressure and the temptation to chill out and not care about anything. Take off your head and party. The stuff with her mum and David Bowie is from a cut subplot so you’re not meant to pick up on it. The sequel to Where The Wild Things Are, Outside Over There, is also about a baby brother being stolen by goblins and the sister having to rescue him and Henson had to include an acknowledgment in the credits because they were a little to similar. My recommendation for which eighties fantasy movie to watch next would be In The Company of Wolves which is the perfect synthesis of An American Werewolf in London and Labyrinth.

Jesse Coombs

I hope y'all react to the original Muppet films that were made when Jim Henson was still around. (The Muppet Movie, The Great Muppet Caper, and Muppets Take Manhattan). They might be my favorite "trilogy", with the original 1979 movie in my top 5.

Kevin Knadle

Simone mentioned earlier that she has an owl that lives outside her new home. You need to name him Jareth.

John

This was a great watch a long I would recommend Berry Gordy's The Last Dragon as another 1980s movie that mixes genres. I would say as an American it is mainly to identify where I am from to other American's and when I have traveled overseas I try to limit that. I agree with other comments about the regionality of the USA and a pride component about where you are from (I'm a Texan).

Jesse Coombs

I love both David Bowie and Prince. For the quintessential Prince movie, you guys should totally watch "Purple Rain". It's such a fun movie.

Alex Ch

You know, I have actually met a few people who’ve introduced themselves as from Montreal or Quebecois.

Morion Williams

Most countries don't have states, if you look at some European nations they are about as big as some of our states.

Morion Williams

I lived a small percentage of my life in texas, But I often say I am from texas as a way to explain why my accent is slightly different and mostly because Texas is where I really felt at home, really belonged and felt more myself than any where else.

MacGuffinStuff

The US is too big and diverse I think to just say "I'm from America", like if you say "I'm from LA," versus "I'm from Bakersfield, California," they're both in California but they imply very different lifestyles etc. And if you say you're from Texas it just has a very different connotation than being from Chicago, obviously a lot of that is wrapped tightly in stereotypes but like a lot of stereotypes there is sometimes a little truth there otherwise we wouldn't identify ourselves geographically like that. Here's a fun conundrum for me when I've traveled, I'm from a small city just about 35 miles east of LA called Ontario, so when I would introduce myself if I didn't just say LA I'd have to go through the whole thing of explaining that I'm not Canadian, its even happened with people from other parts of California. But anyone actually from LA would consider it blasphemous to say Ontario is in LA, and thats true but for the sake of simplicity I would just say LA. To me I think the weird thing is how we Americans will sort of identify ourselves by our job, especially on vacation, I hate talking about my job AT my job, let alone on vacation.

Amar

Just watched "Godzilla Minus One" OMG!!!

MacGuffinStuff

If you guys like this you should watch Return To Oz, it was a favorite of mine as a kid (and scared the hell out of me, but that's probably why I turned out to be a horror fan lol) and honestly I still think it's cool.

Logan Kerlee

lol, as an American I totally always say that I'm from the Pacific Northwest, Washington state. If asked where specifically I'll go ahead and say the city. If I'm asked where I was born, I'll mention the city's name and go from there. I've spent nearly all my life in Washington state - but if I was say born in Oregon and moved to Washington I'd say that I was from Oregon but lived in Washington for a majority of my life. That's me! :) I don't think that I've ever imagined a circular labyrinth - at least in terms of this movie. xD This movie IS NOT Pan's Labyrinth!! hahahaha, wow. I totally understand why you'd draw connections between the two but they're very limited. Good job George, on calling an evil David Bowie out! :) :) We love your consistency Simone! lol, don't feel bad George. Many people these days, especially those that're your age don't know very many David Bowie songs. lol, George it's all good man! <3 xD You're alright, promise. Nobody will call you out on not knowing David Bowie's music! That is a beautiful dog, George! :) Reminds me of my doggo that I had as a young boy. I love this movie so much! It's always a lot of fun to watch. :) David Bowie IS AN INCREDIBLE GOBLIN KING!! He's simply fantastic in this role. The effects used in this movie are top notch for it's time! I mean, look at who made the movie! I'm hoping that you both enjoy this! This is a childhood fave of mine. The music is 80's and it's awesome that it is Simone!! I won't accept any other take than that. This movie's magical! lmao, I've had a colonoscopy and they aren't that terrible! xD lol, the needing to have one done is so much worse than the actual experience. Jim Henson was fantastic with his creature designs! lol, Rakanishu, I think is what you meant. I LOVE LUDO! Such a big sweetheart! <3 lol, I'm so happy that you both enjoyed this! :) I totally stopped writing along after Ludo was brought into the show - I just fell back in love with the show at that point. :) hahahahaha, wow!! I was laughing so hard at the end when you both realized/remembered Sir Didymus! hahahahaha, so damn great! :D

Logan Kerlee
>>140420288

<3 xD You're alright, promise. Nobody will call you out on not knowing David Bowie's music! That is a beautiful dog, George! :) Reminds me of my doggo that I had as a young boy. I love this movie so much! It's always a lot of fun to watch. :) David Bowie IS AN INCREDIBLE GOBLIN KING!! He's simply fantastic in this role. The effects used in this movie are top notch for it's time! I mean, look at who made the movie! I'm hoping that you both enjoy this! This is a childhood fave of mine. The music is 80's and it's awesome that it is Simone!! I won't accept any other take than that. This movie's magical!

Matt Gwinn

Toby grew up to be the design supervisor for Jim Henson's Dark Crystal TV series, and did special effects for WETA workshop for The Chronicles of Narnia: The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe. Brian Henson said in an article regarding Jareth's codpiece that "The codpiece represents male sexual aggression. Sarah is at a point in her life where she’s a child but she’s becoming a woman, she’s in that cusp period, and the character of Jareth is sort of an aggressive, adult, masculine sexuality, that is both terrifying to her and very attractive to her."

Thirty Year Old Mulberry Field

Now this is a dank slice of 80s fantasy I get so giddy over. Jim Henson and co are damn magicians when it comes to scene & set concepts, as well as the many charming creature designs. And David Bowie and Jennifer Connelly mesh incredibly well with the whimsical, and sometimes sinister, setting. Really hope y’all get to some more 80s fantasy, like “The Secret of NIMH”, “Return to Oz”, or “Heavy Metal”.

WalrusWallace

As someone from a small, less known country, I rarely introduce myself using my country. And even when asked I end up naming neighboring countries so people get a better idea where it is haha. So sometimes I get a bit envious of people who can introduce themselves by state let alone city

David N

From what I have experienced, people will introduce themselves as being from a place that they assume people will know. I have met several people from big cities across the world and they do say i'm from Seoul, or Rio etc. Americans do this with small towns and states because (me) Americans are arrogant and assume everyone in the world knows US geography as if they grew up there.

BubblyRainbows

Not that it's especially clever or anything, but one time when I was watching this with my dad, at the end when Sarah was chasing Toby around, after she shouted "Toby," he just randomly goes "Fuck Off, you're mean!" I can no longer watch that scene without thinking of Toby saying that.

Jethro Divine

Your eyes are really popping in this one, George.

Christian Rennie

I think the city or state introduction is because laws, political views, social views, and wealth are drastically different in every US State. Each state acts very much like a different country inside the US. We say we are from Cali or "I'm a Texan" or Hawaiian, etc. That carries over to when we leave the US, too. In Germany I'd say, "i'm Californian," or, "I'm from California, in the US." Though we are all considered that same country, most people think of themselves from each state as those states were another country.

Matthew Langley

In the US where are "from" is a complicated question. People here in the US say City and State because though there is indeed quite a bit of common US culture across States each State actually has quite a bit of unique culture too. Within those States as well. For example if I say I'm "from" California that could mean something completely different if I say one of the big cities like San Francisco, LA, etc vs something more removed saying like Redding, or even something in between like Bakersfield. Again a lot of common US culture but vastly different in many ways too, almost like different countries in some ways. Another example is New Mexico where my mom was raised. Though she was raised right on the border of Texas (and born in Texas) so that specific place has a weird fusion of New Mexico and Texas culture. Very different than someplace like Santa Fe. So saying US or even just a State isn't really a useful answer to people. If someone tells you a city or town you don't know usually you'll ask (or they'll offer seeing the confusion in your face trying to place it) some context, like nearly a city or a feature etc. As for the broader question it gets tricky. Where you are "from" vs where are "in" or living currently can mean something very differnet. I was born in Phoenix, Arizona, after graduating college I went to work in Eugene, Oregon (funny that you Simone threw that place out, a great place btw, hippy town meets college/university town, a lot of fun), then Las Vegas, Nevada, then the San Francisco Bay Area of California for about 10 years. About 3 years ago I moved back to the Phoenix, AZ area. So when people asked me where I was "from" since I had recently returned I usually answered that my wife and I came here after being in California for 10 years, but that I was born and raised (and spent my first 21 years or so of my life) here in Phoenix, AZ. There's a stigma of Californians moving out to new States and when I put that in context that usually stops that, most of the people I see complain about there here in Arizona weren't born here so I typically have a leg up on them in that regard. The longer I've been back my answer will probably just revert to being from here. When to say where you are "from" vs living vs born vs raised gets a bit individual I think though. I'd say when I'm in the State I'm living in and someone asks me where I'm from I would say where I was born or raised (same for me, but not for everyone). If I'm out of State (say visiting family or on a trip) and someone asks where you are from I'd typically say where I'm current living etc. I think that's usually what people mean when they are asking it, at least here in the US depending on the situation. Sometimes it's useful in the US to go one step further, where your parents are from, especially out West where peoples roots don't run very deep. This probably is at least somewhat analagous to your example of saying you are from Canada but further back from China. I know an Asian American friend of mine would point out he's born in New Jersey but his parents are from Taiwan since he knows (and doesn't have a problem with) people typically meaning what's your identity breakdown sort of and being a first gen American that seems to usually include one step back for context, or at least sometimes. I for example am born in Phoenix, Arizona but my father was born in San Diego, California and my mother born in Lubbock, Texas. Which may come up in a deeper conversation about where you are "from", or more apprioriately what sort of culture(s) are you made up of. California and Texas being common in basic US culture but very different in many others ways (often shown as vs eachother, being the first and second most populous States and predmoninate in liberal vs conservative culture).

djKENTO

We say where we’re from because the country is enormous California has more people than Canada… So Even just this one state, which is the 4th largest economy in the world, has a hugely diverse population of millions and millions.

G Lam

I say I'm from where I most identify myself from, where what I consider my formative years were spent (12 years in Yorkshire [England]). That was my 18- 30 period). However, I was born in Germany, lived 14 years total there (in two stints) during my childhood, plus 3 years of that childhood in Hong Kong (a stone's throw, via BFO nuclear-powered trebuchet from Guangdong), and another 14 years in Australia.... But I still consider myself from Yorkshire (much to my parent's dismay who are both from a town not in Yorkshire), even though I've spend over 2/3 of my life in other countries. It's where you feel you are from, and it helps if that aligns with where you sound (and unfortunately, look) where you are from (to other people). I don't sound Australian. George doesn't sound like he's from China. If I decided I'm from Australia (my current and probably forever home), it would have follow-up questions for sure, because I absolutely don't sound Australian, I sound more like Ned Stark than Crocodile Dundee. I think the American [City, State]thing is partly because they have numerous towns with the same name in different states (not to mention the whole Washington state vs Washington, D.C) thing.... But to non-Americans (those who understand geography), it makes things clearer given that America recycles so many names. For example: Canada, Kansas Egypt, Texas England, Arkansas Jordan, Minnesota Lebanon, New Hampshire Mexico, Missouri Poland, Ohio Wales, Wisconsin I really do not understand what that is about! That said, Ontario has an Egypt and a Lebanon, so.... Come up with your own place names North America! I say this in jest, obviously, we have the history in Europe, but if we have places in the U.K called Crapstone, Shitterton, Wetwang, Cocks, from CENTURIES ago, imagine the fun you could have naming new places! Saskatchewan has a place called 'Climax'... they've got the right idea! But to be completely fair, the ONLY I know what states Boston, MA / Knoxville, TN / Cleveland, OH, Seattle, WA / Chicago, IL / Denver, CO, Portland, OR are in is because American's insist on saying the state after the name, otherwise I would have NO idea, and I like geography so it's good association learning for me. Edit: Upon review the USA has I think 6 states with a place called Climax, so you need to up your game.

WastedPo

I grew up with this movie, and I'm glad you guys appreciated the creativity, puppetry and practical effects on display here. I will say that something that is super blatant watching it as an adult is how awful Sarah behaves at the beginning of the movie - like verging on abusive. I feel like if they made a new movie in which a teen girl acted this way towards a baby, the audience would immediately hate her. At that point, the movie would at least try to eventually address it with some self-reflection. Curiously, Labyrinth just lets it slide.

Simone's Coconut Squire
>>140570054

I'll tell you the real reason Americans introduce ourselves that way. We are so self absorbed, that we automatically assume EVERYone is American unless stated otherwise. (Ok it's only a little bit self absorbed. It's actually a lot more to do with the fact that America is so huge both in area and population that most Americans never or rarely meet people from other countries so it's uncommon for it to be in question, thus State and City are far more relevant to us).

Michael Bourke

Back in the day I used to spend a bit of time in chat rooms and I once pointed out that it was a bit weird that when you asked people where they were from Americans would just put the abbreviation for their state and nothing else, just expecting that everyone would know what that meant. I did feel bad though when all of the non Americans started piling on about it.

pedantech

The weird thing to me is that there's one state that people never say what city they're from, and that's New Jersey. They always just say they're from New Jersey. I've never been there. Why doesn't the city matter in that state like it does in all the other states?

Simone's Coconut Squire

Re Nectarine vs Peach: A nectarine is just a peach with a minor mutation that causes it to not have fuzz.

Renee MeowMeow Beans
>>140361637

I also come from a state that views itself as having significant differences within itself (East and West South Dakota) And those states around it. 😆 I always find it kind of hilarious, the way we humans like to keep dividing ourselves into groups based on nothing but geographic placement. We're so weird. 😁

Poddington

Simone when Geroge kept saying "I'm George from..." how much did you want to add "...from the block" lol It seemed like a thought was on the edge of your lips when he was saying it so I did wonder :D

Poddington

Growing up Jennifer Connelly was perfection. She was there during my informative years and I credit her for my taste in women. It's almost unfair how beautiful she was and still is.

brian burke

hello, there is a cool music video for this movie called UNDERGROUND by david bowie, which is both stuff from the movie and original scenes for the video. check it out, it should be online. i am not a super fan of this movie, but its good but my cousin is such a big fan she named her son toby after the baby in this movie. she knows the film very well. i'm not sure if he's seen the movie yet but she will show it to him eventually, he is still a young child.

Don Mayhem

This movie is my childhood favorite as a little kid. I have the cd of the movie soundtrack. I always associated David Bowie with fantasy because of this film. Bowie said when writing songs for Labyrinth, he couldn't write the songs as David Bowie the singer, he had to write the songs as Jareth The Goblin King. Did you know David Bowie did a Electronica album called Earthlings? I have that CD also. Rest in Peace David Bowie.