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Citizen Kane - Patreon Version (Patreon)

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No Sync Required Version: https://cinebingers.ca/PddhzEenw2 - For Patreon tier "Bingers on The Wall" or higher.

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Śéáń

I can't wait to get to the part with the cane.

REDR58

Oh, I’ve been waiting for this one! To start with, here are (many of) the references to Citizen Kane in The Simpsons: https://youtu.be/sydeLbpk4ac?si=B675iEt2n5eMHvpN Anyway, anyone wanting to learn a bit more of the making of this movie please check out the commentary track by Roger Ebert that appears on the Criterion release of this film. (Edited!)

Prof. Writhms

“Citizen Kane” always had a perfect critics score of 100% on Rotten Tomatoes. Recently (in 2021), they discovered an old review of the movie from 1941 by a critic named Mae Tinee (a name play on the word "Matinee"). It’s part of a long-running joke since the late 1920s. A ghost critic from the Chicago Tribune kept leaving movie reviews in their newspaper. Apparently, "she’s" the only critic who did not like “Citizen Kane” and they included the old review on Rotten Tomatoes, knocking it down to 99%. Hilarious!

djKENTO

And I just got this during the Criterion sale. Let's goooo. SCREECH!!!

Keith Brown

This movie does make the list worldwide of the top three movies ever made . It has groundbreaking tech behind scenes that for changed the way movies got filmed. Plus the acting is great as most of the actors when onto decades of film roles.

JakeyShakeyBakeyBoy

The fact Welles was 25 when he made this is amazing. The makeup is truly remarkable for its time and doesn’t get mentioned as much as Gregg Toland’s cinematography, which of course is groundbreaking. Definitely recommend The Magnificent Ambersons if you want some more of Welles style and camerawork on display 😀

Maiki

Citizen Kane - 1 guy, 2 girls. Nailed it there, Simone. :)

Bob Bittner

So glad to see you watching this! I discovered this in college, when we watched it for a class. Although I’d always liked movies, this film made me love them.

punterjoe

The physical disc version (at least some packages) came with a PBS documentary "The Battle Over Citizen Kane" - which I found far more interesting than the film itself. Yeah, it's great to analyze and dissect in film schools.... and on that ground I will agree it may be the "greatest" movie ever made, along with Battleship Potemkin & Birth of a Nation (talking technique - not content - which is deplorable). HBO did a movie called RKO-281 (its in-house designation) which dramatized the backstory much like the PBS documentary. It was a fun watch, and I learned a lot of juicy trivia. If you can find it, you'll likely enjoy it. I own a copy of Kane. I keep it like one of those books everyone should own. But I never have a desire to watch it again. Like so many 'classics', consuming it once to be familiar with it was enough. Just my philistines take on it.

punterjoe
>>147255651

I wonder... Was the 'critic' in any way associated with Hearst? I love the tales of all the ways he tried to prevent this film from ever being seen.

Shonnicus
>>147255658

Aww. Physical media. Back in the day I had DVD s and high end DVD player. Sold my electronics, never upgraded. Ironically my only access is through streaming and not on Criterion streaming. Love Criterion collection btw.

Wrwemi

Yeah, this is one the big ones. A lot of things may seem normal by today standards, but it pioneered a lot of them (in a major motion picture anyway). The flashback structure, the unlikable main character, the cinematography, all those things were new in that time

Florian Geyer

In case of old movies, I would like to recommend "Grapes of wrath" (1940) and "Metropolis" (1927)

Shonnicus

George "I'm going in totally blind" Uhh Mr Simpson fan; No you are not. Maybe one of my most favorite Simpsons episode will spoil this movie whenever watched.

REDR58
>>147257069

The make up for Welles in particular is astonishing. It still looks amazing.

djKENTO

Yes Simone the Shia LeBeouf moment at the end of that video is inspired by this.

REDR58

Light and shadow absolutely have relevance and purpose in this film. Again, watch it again with Ebert’s commentary.

REDR58

This is one of Donald Trump’s favorite movies and he entirely misses the point of it.😄 William Randolph Hearst tried to pay off to get copies of this film physically destroyed. That’s how much he hated the movie.

Balmung

I'm 36 and had avoided seeing this movie even through film school. When you guys published the schedule I knew I'd finally take the plunge and wasn't disappointed. Amazing movie and amazing reaction

Balmung
>>147264447

I didn't know this about Trump but as the final scene of the movie played I was reminded of him and how his need to be surrounded by yes-men and how fragile his ego is is perfectly illustrated in this movie. Doesn't surprise me that he loves it. It's fairly common for the people who love a cult classic the most to just not get it. e.g. Fight Club, American Psycho, The Matrix

Keith Brown

Spielberg does a nod to this movie at the end of "Raiders of the Lost Arc" when the Arc is boxed up and put in the warehouse for storage . The warehouse has the look of all Kane's belongings at the end of that movie.

Keith Brown

The fast pace dialog in this movie may prepare you now to watch Howard Hawks' "His Girl Friday" starring Cary Grant !

windyWin

I've always had a slight fascination with Orson Welles. Him being an auteur, actor in theatre and film, a director and a magician. Orson Welles as a person definitely left an impression on me in pop culture, at least the pop culture I was brought up on. The Brain's voice from Pinky and the Brain is based on Orson. The outtakes for the commercials he did in later years which can all be found on YouTube. The screech of the parakeet was supposedly put there to wake the audience up.

Odd Thomas

There's a musical with Olivia Newton John called Xanadu - I think it's about rollerskates, lol. There was also a film about Florence Foster Jenkins with Meryl Streep. A lot of modern filmmaking was kickstarted by Welles here; moving the camera through objects, interesting transitions/edits, moving the camera more etc

Odd Thomas

A similar style of movie you'd like is Scorsese's The Aviator, with Di Caprio playing Howard Hughes

AstralCars

Lisa was wrong. There is a cane in Citizen Kane!

Brandon

"I think The Simpsons might have spoiled this entire movie for me." - welcome to the club, George. 😅That show spoiled a lot of classics for me, actually. To me a spoiler doesn't mean that much without all of the context and weight behind it, though. So when I finally saw this, the ending still hit like a punch. Great observations about the shots. Old movies in general had longer takes and far fewer cuts. This was Welles first time directing, he was unsure of himself and ended up borrowing from a lot of the other directors of the time that he admired. Somehow, he still ended up developing a style of his own right out the gate. Now that you've seen this, 'RKO 281' and 'Mank' are two movies that are both worth seeing. They're two wildly different takes on the real life events that led to that making of the film. 'Mank' is mostly about Herman Mankiewicz, who wrote the screenplay and 'RKO 281' is more about the actual production of the film and the aftermath of its release.

YukoValis

This movie is like the Citizen Kane of Citizen Kane.

CT

As a kid, I was spoiled on Rosebud by another cartoon series called The Real Ghostbusters (based on the movie). The Ghostbusters try to capture the ghost of a Charles Foster Hearse haunting his old mansion, and in the end he just wants to ride his childhood sled named Rosebud.

Marshmallow Venom

Your homework now is to watch Citizen Kane again, but this time with the commentary by Roger Ebert. All the things that made this movie groundbreaking are laid out in great detail. It is the best commentary that ever was, or ever will be for any movie.

REDR58

Timeline covering the events seen in the movie: 1863 Charles Foster Kane is born in Colorado. 1868 Mary Kane gains the deed to the Colorado Lode, a "worthless" gold mine that a boarder left to her as payment for the rent, and acquires a large fortune in the process. 1871 Banker Walter Parks Thatcher gains the rights to become Charles' guardian and takes Charles away from his parents to raise him. 1888 Charles Kane turns 25 and gains full control over his trust fund. He takes control of the New York Inquirer. 1898 Charles Kane urges America's entry into the Spanish-American War. 1902 Emily Norton and Charles Kane get married. 1916 Emily Norton Kane and Charles Kane divorce after Charles' affair with Susan Alexander is discovered, wrecking Kane's political career in the process. 1918 Emily Norton and her son Charles Kane III die in a car crash. 1919 Charles Kane opposed America's participation in The Great War. 1925 Walter P. Thatcher has an interview about how he had previously raised Charles Kane. 1929 The Inquirer shuts down. 1941 Charles Foster Kane dies at 78. https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Timeline/CitizenKane

REDR58

Hearst Castle, which “Xanadu” in Citizen Kane is based on/inspired by/satirizes: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hearst_Castle The building and its contents were gifted by Hearst to the State of California and you can visit it today.

Kinokind

Volumes have been written about this film, and their reading is well worth your time. In short: Welles was a 25 year old (!!) wunderkind theatre director and radio dramatist in New York, who had the opportunity to direct a film and so went to Hollywood. He knew nothing about cinematography. Greg Toland was a brilliant cinematographer who taught Welles everything about cinematography. Welles didn't understand why you couldn't do many things in a movie that you could do on stage - like have foreground, middle and background in focus at the same time. Toland, rather than tell him it couldn't be done, figured out ways to do it. A second viewing reveals even more about the brilliance of their collaboration. It was virtually all sets, even in the Enquirer offices. So, if you can see the ceiling and the rest of the room, where are the lights?. And the microphones? And how could they have such cavernous sets on what was essentially a low budget film? (One answer - in the giant interior where Susan does puzzles, there is nothing else, just stairs, fireplace, and furniture. Everything else is draped in black fabric or superimposed.) A number of methods were used for the myriad effects: multiple exposures to focus foreground and background separately, foreground models, etc. Such as in the pan up to the stagehands in the grid over the stage. Second last fun fact: In the scene where Kane goes berserk and breaks everything in the bedroom, everything was real, and there were no breakaway props. It was done in one take and Welles cut himself badly but continued on with the scene. The best fun fact: Co-writer of the screenplay, Herman Mankiewicz, had been a guest at Hearst's mansion and heard that "Rosebud" was a pet name of Hearst's for a certain part of his girlfriend/wife, Marion Davies' anatomy. It turns out Rosebud was not really a sled. . .

Opti_Frog

The best film ever made? I wouldn't say so. One of the most groundbreaking and influential films ever made? Very much so.

G P

Agreed with the person above - excellent, medium-defining film, but I think there are better movies out there.

G P

Check out the Get Back documentary - the original footage was shot by Welles' (illegitimate) son Michael Lindsay-Hogg.

Skyruff

Maltese Falcon (1941)! Maltese Falcon (1941)! Maltese Falcon (1941)! Maltese Falcon (1941)! Maltese Falcon (1941)! :)

Ludovic Ligot

Nice to see new people discovering Citizen Kane ! It's still almost unbelievable that Wells was making his first feature film and was only 25 years old...

Bennett Holleman

Asked for a list of his favorite filmmakers, Orson Welles once replied, “I prefer the old masters, by which I mean John Ford, John Ford and John Ford…"

REDR58

For more good films by Welles check out The Magnificent Ambersons (1942) and Touch of Evil (1958).

Ashley Minor

Good on George for noticing the ceilings! It's my fav lil film nerd thing. These are in fact sets but fabric was done across them to imitate ceilings which led to them being able to hide microphones and lights better then any other production before. Also notable is the old age makeup that allowed all ages to be played by everyone in a way I think still holds up pretty well. One last lil fact, the giant Kane rally is in fact all a painting with moving lights behind it to simulate motion. This film was low budget even at the time ($839,727 at the time or 19 million today) and there's a lot of smart shots to make it look like something is big when its not.

Allen Pass

Eh, movie was meh...

Thirty Year Old Mulberry Field

While not in my personal list of GOATs, what I find so endearing about “Citizen Kane” is how it highlights the medium of film’s necessity for collaboration. Kane’s storied production (you can get lost for days in Kane lore) tells a tale of an exemplary team firing on all cylinders to assemble one of cinema’s finest two hours. And while the shadow of Kane looms large, Orson Welles helmed an enviable body of work that does not get discussed as often as it should. Personal favorite is “The Trial” and others to check out are “The Magnificent Ambersons” (the follow-up to Kane) & “A Touch of Evil”.

JoeE

Regarding George’s comment on today’s media, from everything I’ve seen newspapers in the 1800s and early 1900s were as bad or worse

JoeE

Would also recommend stagecoac

Mitchell Bowker

I think now, having seen CITIZEN KANE, would be the perfect time for you to watch ED WOOD.

Philipp Roensch

I always thought this movie was so well regarded, at minimum by filmmakers, but now finally seen it - holy cow what a feast! Many tricks and innovations, nothing like the 'old and stuffy' stereotype of movies. But also courageous ideas and challenging thoughts. Previously also just knew critics and special effect insight into it. The story I knew kinda from trivia and quizzes^^ Oh and Don Rosa's Scrooge comic 'The Richest Duck in the World' draws Scrooge and Kane similar in it's opening :D.

Actuarial Lurker
>>147269000

It's interesting to watch Dick Cavett interview Welles (or anyone else). There is a Dick Cavett YT channel with selected clips of key interviews

Kirk Sloan

It seems that the outro comments on the Patreon version are longer than the YT edit. Is there a reason you do this? I usually watch the YT edit and love all of your trivia and aftershow bits. Didn't realize I might be missing some by not going to the full video version.

Cinebinge
>>147631797

the reason is that from our end, we can see when majority of viewers lose interest and click away from a video on YT, and the drop off happens at the end of teh movie reaction portion, about 70% of people leave the video. and as far as YT analytics and algorithm is concerned, the longer the duration of low viewership portion lasts, the worse teh video is performing as it means low engagement rate. which is why we edit the videos so that the intro and post movie portions are short enough for the algorithm to be happy, and long enough to make a few key points we wanted to make.

Kevin M. Pitts

This was a film I first watched in my late teens. It took a couple of more viewings before I truly started to appreciate screenplay and the direction and cinematography. I agree with others that The Battle for Citizen Kane and its adapted HBO film "RKO 281" are good things to watch for getting more in depth with the making of this great film Orson Welles, at the time of this film, had gained notoriety nationwide for his radio play of "The War of the Worlds" on Oct 30, 1938. He had already been successful on the stage with his theater group. Every October 30th at 8pm ET I listen to the original "War of the Worlds" broadcast. One of only a few of my Halloween traditions.

Trevor S Bright

My favorite Orson Welles roles, his cameo in the 1979 "The Muppet Movie" and his final role as the evil planet eater Unicron in 1986's "The Transformers: The Movie" which Welles called a stupid toy movie so he obviously did it for the paycheck...but Unicron is still 1 of my favorite villains cuz of his voice.

Beddoe

I've really enjoyed your reactions to the several older movies you've watched over the last couple of weeks. I'd like to request 'Arsenic And Old Lace' (1944). It's a fun movie and it takes place on Halloween. Maybe you could put it on an October poll.

James Melton

The film was more groundbreaking when it was released. It has been regularly cited as the greatest (Hollywood) film ever, but that got much tougher when "The Godfather" was released. It's interesting that both of these are the stories of a man's rise to power. "Casablanca" also fights for this spot and for me that one edges out these other two because it feels more accessible; it's not about a #greatman. Of course best-film-ever ratings don't mean that much. There's "Seven Samurai" and "City Lights" and "Bleu" by Kieslowski and "Charulata" by Satyajit Ray... there are a lot of really great movies so picking one probably doesn't make much sense.