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Star Trek: The Original Series 115-116 (Patreon)

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Episodes: Shore Leave & The Galileo Seven

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Young Blood Priest

All network tv is shot week to week. This is why it’s hard for sci-fi shows because they have to cram in special effects. At least according to interviews I’ve seen with creators. It’s also why some of the TOS episodes can have such strange endings. Roddenberry wouldn’t like some of the scripts so he would rewrite them as the episodes were being filmed. Sometimes the cast and crew would have to stand around while Roddenberry typed pages and have them sent to copy so the actors and director could study and shoot the scenes.

Amos T Fairchild

Shore Leave. It's just a low budget comedy episode. Lol. More fun than some of the really bad episodes.

Will Sofer

While I’m sure there are some Season 1 TOS stans out there, I’ll be the guy that simply says “It gets better”. And the entire franchise is beyond awesome. But both TOS and TNG take awhile to find their footing.

TomGas2025

Its finally Wednesday...my new Trek Day with Simone and George...🖖

JoeNotCharles

Just finished watching Season 1. I was actually surprised at how much it held up. (Better than TNG season 1!) There were some real stinkers, but there were also some really good ones, and not always the ones I was expecting. My recommendations: Must-watch: The Naked Time, Balance of Terror, Dagger of the Mind, The Galileo Seven, The Menagerie, Space Seed, The Return of the Archons, The Devil in the Dark, Errand of Mercy Also worth seeing: Charlie X, The Squire of Gothos, What Are Little Girls Made Of?, Tomorrow is Yesterday, A Taste of Armageddon, The City on the Edge of Forever, Operation - Annihilate! Pretty good, but not great: Where No Man Has Gone Before, The Corbomite Maneuver, Arena, This Side of Paradise Pretty bad, but with something of interest buried inside: Mudd's Women, The Man Trap, The Enemy Within, Miri, The Conscience of the King, Court Martial Just plain bad: Shore Leave, The Alternative Effect

Paul Peavler

Yeoman Janice Rand was written off the show after Balance of Terror and doesn't come back for any more episodes. At the time, they said it was due to budget cuts and wanting to get rid of the subplot of her and Kirk having feelings for each other that they couldn't act on. But she later said that she thought it was due to a combination of her alcohol abuse at the time and that she was sexually assaulted by a TV exec a few days before she was fired. She was a fan favorite, though, and friends with Gene Roddenberry, so she does come back for small roles in the movies.

Paul Peavler

Also, Kirk is not a floozy! He is very in love with Mr. Spock.

Darin Foat

We finally get a shuttlecraft, and establish the long running tradition that Starfleet shuttles almost always crash.

mky

According to TV Guide archives, the Star Trek episode that NBC broadcast on Thursday, December 22, 1966 was a rerun of "Dagger of the Mind", which first aired on November 3, 1966.

mky

I get the feeling that George would have enjoyed "Shore Leave" more if it turned into a cautionary Black Mirror episode where crew members actually died, they barely escaped the planet, and everyone felt miserable. lol j/k, George!

Itbewhatitbe

lol i mean jokes aside though, imagine if the episode was actually that bleak and dark and the main character just dies in a black mirror kind of way. how weird it would feel and how un star trek like it would be. thats how the star trek satire episode feels to me.

Paul Peavler

Also, to answer another question, Vulcans aren't rare in the galaxy, but at this time they are rare in Starfleet. Starfleet's origins are as Earth's space exploration agency, so it's mostly humans, especially at this time. Vulcans have their own space exploration group that has existed for a lot longer than humans have been space-faring, so for a long time it was considered a bit of an embarrassment for a Vulcan to join Starfleet. So most Starfleet officers haven't ever worked with a Vulcan at this point in the Star Trek timeline.

Mikebdrx

Well, without spoilers the worst accent is every Louisiana fake accent I’ve heard. One in particular you will encounter soon.

JojoPotato

I think the first season is the best. Season 2 has some great episodes but about half aren’t good and I prefer the dramatic episodes of season 1 to the more comedic episodes of season 2.

Tony E Crumpton

One of the things that makes TREK great is how the tone can and does change from episode to episode. Many of the best TNG, DS9, and VOYAGER episodes are played more for humor or fluctuate between tones. While a viewer may not like the tone or story of an episode, they can always look forward to the next episode because it will likely be much different and more to their taste. I have always been a fan of SHORE LEAVE and the more lighthearted episodes fo the other series. They often give us better insight into the characters and work to endear us to them.

mky

Yes, I would characterize "Shore Leave" as silly rather than bad. It won't be the only silly episode, so fasten your seatbelts, it's going to be a bumpy ride! ;)

REDR58
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Comment edited to delete the offending question that I will be sure to never ever ever ask again as it bothered 2 people.

Tony E Crumpton

In THE GALILEO SEVEN episode, remember that many of TOS's episodes explore social themes of the time, such as racism and bigotry. In a future society where humanity has supposedly done away with racism, the writers would turn to SPOCK to explore these themes. Here, in 2024, the way these ideas are portrayed in the episode may not seem modern in thinking, but back then this shizz was radical as hell.

Theadora

Shows shot as fast as they could, but some (like Trek) were so heavy on post-production that they were forever racing to keep up. That's one reason they couldn't waste "The Cage"; they NEEDED two episodes and only had time to shoot one. (That's why some shows had to resort to clip shows too.)

Itbewhatitbe

bruh you've commented about this in like every star trek video for months now lmao. why are you so obsessed with the word? and how is the concept that different people use words differently so difficult for you to grasp? you say in the US it refers to women as if you just know how all 300+ million ppl speak. as if the US isnt super diverse in accent and manners of speech.

Paul Peavler

Yeah I agree with Riverton, I think you’re caring too much about this. Yes, floozy has been typically used for women, like most sexualized derogatory terms, but like other terms (think sl*t, c*nt, etc), modern internet slang has kind of made them gender neutral (and overall less maliciously derogatory). Plus, there are a lot of examples of Kirk and Spock being playfully attributed feminine descriptors or characteristics due to the overtly homoerotic undertones of their relationship and the Spirk fandom that grew out of that. It’s not meant to be taken too seriously.

NEIL PICKERING

Ah,the socialist desire to make everyone gay............ Heterophobia is real.

NEIL PICKERING

I agree,look how anti white the radical left is............ Misplaced guilt helps no one!

Crystal

fun fact, navels technically weren't allowed on TV during this time. all the old shows like I Dream of Jeannie & Gilligan's Island never showed their belly buttons. that's why the fluff n stuff

Paul Peavler

Well technically Gene Roddenberry was a communist, but most people can’t tell the difference anyway. I’m sure some of the women that wrote the original Spirk fanfics in the 70s were socialists, though.

Cinebinge

Hi Neil, please help us keep this community pleasant for all by keeping politics off of here. There is enough of that everywhere else on the internet. Thank you.

Cinebinge

Hi Neil, please help us keep this community pleasant for all by keeping politics off of here. There is enough of that everywhere else on the internet. Thank you.

R Harper

Shore Leave, I am sorry you didn't "get it" but sometimes you miss the point of some episodes. Yes it would have been great if they could explore the fantasy of having anything you desire of course since they were limited to about 49 minutes per episode they probably had to skip that perspective. Although Roddenberry felt like he touched on that in the Menagerie episodes the idea of having anything you desire by just thinking about it. Shore Leave is generally in the top 10 best episode lists of Star Trek the original series. Must be a matter of historical perspective. The Gallio 7 also makes all top 10 lists. A study of Spock's character & personality and the difference between him and his human counterparts. Realism? Today everybody in that shuttlecraft would be court martial for insubordination, with the exception of Scotty. They're intrepid astronauts of the future they're expected to deal with stress and the unusual appears to me they just fell apart without much provocation. Can you imagine anyone leveling the same criticism and sarcastic remarks to Captain Kirk had he led this Mission? Of course not, not without immediate repercussions. I fault McCoy for not backing Spock, the head of the medical department throws in with the malcontents and talks behind another senior's officers back? He in addition to being court-martialed he would have been drummed out of Starfleet. All the alliterations of Star Trek have bureaucrats that are a pain in the butt. Believe this reflection of Gene Roddenberry who hated bureaucrats and frequently these higher up in episodes were named after the bureaucrats and censors at NBC that Roddenberry couldn't get along on with. His subtle revenge and no one ever called him on it. Episodes were supposed to stay under $110,000 per episode. A lot of money back in the late 1960s. TOS I rarely hit this mark special effects were expensive, location shooting was expensive, special makeup and appliances expensive, both Shatner & Nimoy commented at conventions (backed up by Robert Black executive producer) Star Trek shot 8 and 1/2 days a week. Robert Black also said Star Trek started out behind and played catch up all three seasons. Sunday the only real day off and later in the season both Shatner and Nimoy would come in half a day on Sundays to do audio looping especially if they did outdoor episodes and the sound wasn't certain. Just get ahead of the week. Monday morning Leonard Nimoy in at 4:30 every shooting day because his makeup took longer. Shatner in at 530 both reading pages of dialogue and memorization frequently the first time they'd seen the script. On set by 7:00 the first setup ready for the director call action. Director's attempted to shoot 10 pages a day and be finished by 6:00 on Friday again that rarely happened, running until 730 every night all through the week when union rules shut down the sets. They generally ran over there allotted 12 hours every day of the week the production crew stage hands liked it because it was good and easy overtime. Rarely did they get a full lunch hour they had something brought in from the commissary so they could also do more looping and single shots, ads, during their lunch time By the time projection shut down, makeup removed, change into street clothes, drive home, eat, study lines for tomorrow, it was be in bed by 11:00 to be back up by 4:00 or 5:00 in the morning to drive into the studio, this went on all season. By the end of the each season the principles Shatner, Nimoy, and Kelly were exhausted. A bottle shows, shows that taken place entirely on the Enterprise were the cheapest episodes to produce already had standing sets and a cast of day actors. Planet shows were the most expensive it required two other sound stages sets to be built a repainted or reused unfortunately the networks wanted more planet shows they want to see bug-eyed monsters and strange aliens and it just ran costs up. By Saturday the principals were the only ones coming into work to finish up scenes The day players were shot early in a week to keep cost down. Shatner, Nimoy, Kelly did wrap up shots or stage shots. You'll note in Shore Leave shots of a characters shoulders and the head with a blue sky in the background that was more than likely shot on a soundstage so the editor could tie a scene together or add a reaction. Without TOS there will be no TNG, no Deep Space Nine, no Voyager, no Enterprise, no Below Decks no animated series, no Discovery, no Strange New Worlds, everything in Star Trek universe owes its beginning to the original series. The laugh at the end of some episodes is meant to bring things full circle lighten the mood. I can see your point I follow a couple reactors that end just about every episode with a giggle and a laugh. Please respect the material and the effort that went into the series. Or not, it's your show. Live long and prosper 🖖

Raven Dark

No, Vulcans aren't rare, but they are rare in Star Fleet, at least at this time. Which means the crew wouldn't be used to working with someone like Spock. Even though they may have been together for months at this point, there are going to be situations they haven't been in together as yet, which means some of Spock's responses and reactions will come as a surprise because he's reacting to something new. Hope that makes sense. I'm guessing at this point no human has had a chance to do a real deep dive study into Vulcan society.

Young Blood Priest

It’s also why there were so many flash back episodes back in the day.

Lanny Fisher

If you think about it, the whole planet is like a holodeck.

Skyruff Creative

Simone called it. Story means the concept/story/outline of what occurs. Where the Teleplay/Script is the line by line technical show walkthrough. The usual steps are: Story suggested, Story approved, story cracked (broken down scene by scene or beat by beat), script written and technical team work on sets and lighting by cracked scene, script approved and matched to camera movements on sets. As you can tell this takes time and happens even in the 60s over weeks. Stories are always being suggested, while approved stories are cracked and previous cracked stories are being built and scripts written, while other episodes are being filmed.

Alan Kobb

The reason for the break during December was probably because Star Trek was pre-empted in favor of Christmas programming like A Charlie Brown Christmas or something like that. As I mentioned in an earlier episode's comments, Star Trek was always very far behind in delivering episodes because of the special effects. All of those effects were manually done, and they took weeks to complete, Shooting was usually completed in a week, but then some episodes would take as many as 2-3 months of post-production, particularly in an episode like this one. Shore Leave was one of the first to be written by a famous Sci Fi writer. Theodore Sturgeon wrote a high fantasy script, but when Roddenbury read it, he thought it was too unbelievable, so he assigned a producer to re-write it, but the re-written episode was even more unbelievable, and they were running out of time, so just as shooting began, Roddenberry took on the task of rewriting it himself, doing so outside right on the set, and delivering the rewrites just before they were shot. This made it a very diffucult shoot as you can imagine. Roddenberry was not happy with the result, and as you might guess, this is not a very popular episode. Yeoman Rand was cut from Star Trek just before this episode. Her part in this episode was changed to Yeoman Burrows, and some of the scenes between her and Kirk were rewritten to be between Burrows and Bones. There were a number of reasons for this. First, they were constantly over budget, so they needed to cut someone. In addition, trying to remain fit and slim in her uniform, she developed an addiction to amphetamines and alcohol that she fought for years after. The less important reason was they were always hinting at a bit of romance between her and Kirk, but this made it harder for them to write Kirk into romances with other women. Nine years later she ran into DeForrest Kelly (Bones) in an unemployment line, and he told her about a Star Trek convention, got her an invitation, and she became a big hit, which led to her appearing in several of the Star Trek movies.

Sergio Meira

At the end of Shore Leave, when Simone says, "we did it," I could see this would be forever known as "the silly episode of TOS." I can see it. They did have problems with tone, and every time the music score went silly, I had to use all my strength to keep from rolling my eyes. Oh well. What can one say about a silly episode? (For TNG lovers: maybe this planet later became Risa?) I guess the constraints on series and their episodes were different in the 60's. Maybe we'd all have felt differently if we had been there at the time...

MacGuffinStuff

The worst accent attempt I've ever heard is Kevin Costner in Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves. I mean I love Kevin Costner as an actor and a director, but he is NOT good at accents (well, he does okay in some Westerns I think). And I actually like the movie, but his English accent is so bad, at first you're thinking he's not trying to do one but every so often he'll pronounce a certain word and you realize he IS trying to do an English accent, it's just so bad he really shouldn't have even tried. On the upside the movie is entertaining and Morgan Freeman and Alan Rickman are especially great in it.

Kinokind

"Shore Leave" was written by the great science fiction author Theodore Sturgeon, who's work I highly recommend. I'm sure he aimed for that specific mixed tone. Every so often Star Trek did an episode that was lighter in tone (even comedic) but that fit within the framework of their universe. This was not the last of that ilk. FYI, Simone, people of a certain age may not realize that before around 1990-ish no one had tattoos except sailors and bikers (excepting indigenous persons). In the decade after, almost no one under 30 would have one except real iconoclasts. By the same token, in 1980 I knew a girl with a nose ring, which suggested she was either "loose" or dangerous. So, Captain Kirk (or rather Shatner) wouldn't have had a tattoo. I'm suspect he still doesn't.

Kinokind

Oh, and the absolute worst accent has to be the great Dick Van Dyke's pseudo-Cockney accent in "Mary Poppins".

REDR58

In his commentary for his film “Aliens,” James Cameron admitted that he had the Colonial Marines portrayed as far too insubordinate especially considering that they are highly trained members of the military who should not be easily panicked and talking back. I see some of that here: poor writing decisions in that regard.

gfixler

Yay, I can finally share this and close out the tab (that I've had open since around episode 4 😆), because you've probably already seen, or are about to see episode 18, or whatever one has the Gorn in it ("Arena"). Wait 'til you've seen it to watch this goofy clip from Family Guy. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Qpg-_Oq5T4

Ashcroft Production-House

PLEASE REMEMBER THAT WHEN YOU WATCH XMEN DAYS OF FUTURE PAST YOU NEED TO WATCH THE ROGUE CUT VERSION

gfixler

So Vasquez Rocks made an appearance in the episode Shore Leave, as did a tiger. I live 10 miles from both, which is to say, 10 miles from the Rocks, and 10 miles from The Roar Foundation/Shambala Preserve, and they are both 10 miles from each other: https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Vasquez+Rocks+Natural+Area+and+Nature+Center,+10700+Escondido+Canyon+Rd,+Agua+Dulce,+CA+91390/The+Roar+Foundation%2FShambala+Preserve,+6867+Soledad+Canyon+Rd,+Acton,+CA+93510/ Shambala was founded, and is still run by Tippi Hedren, star of Hitchcock's "The Birds." Lots of pics and videos on her site. They do tours. There used to be a virtual tour on the site, but I can't find it now. They also had sleepovers in fancy tents where you could wake up to the sound of the cats roaring, and sunset tours, but it looks like they may have scaled back a lot: https://www.shambala.org/ I feel like George knows this, but for anyone else, her husband Noel Marshall, was a bunch of Hollywood things (actor, producer, director, agent), and in the 70s, he tried to create a movie using real big cats, in Africa, and it took 11 years, and 70 people were injured, many seriously, mostly by big cats. All of it is insane. There's video out there of the cats attacking people on set, and crew running in, trying to stop it. The film received the tagline "The most dangerous movie ever made." Their daughter is Melanie Griffith, and there are photos of her as a little girl with a full-grown tiger just out at the pool together, or with the tiger literally leaping through the open kitchen window, past Tippi. Tippi later opened the preserve to take care of exotic pet cats that were mistreated. From her page: "Prior to 1983 I had been rescuing the exotic felines since 1972. Up to the present, The Shambala Preserve has given sanctuary to over 235 exotic felines - lion, tiger, cougar, black and spotted leopard, serval, bobcat, Asian leopard cat, snow leopard, cheetah, lynx, tigon, liger and African elephant. All have come to the Preserve after confiscation by authorities, such as California Fish and Game, U.S. Department of Agriculture, SPCA and Humane Societies. They are from roadside zoos and private citizens who realize they have purchased an animal they can no longer handle." When a wild fire swept through this area around five years ago (there are always fires here; it's a crazy place to live), I was constantly looking up news, because I was in the heart of it, and actually had to be evacuated for 2 days out of the city to the north. On Twitter I saw Melanie's post, asking if anyone with a large truck could come help haul big cats away to safety, and I said "Oh, that's right! Tippi is Melanie's mom!" I had known that in the distant past, but forgot. So obviously the tiger in this episode wasn't hers, because it was the 60s, but I thought it was still fun to see Vasquez Rocks and a tiger in the same episode. Cesar Milan's giant dog ranch is up here, too, as is the set of Wipeout (you can see the sets in the distance from the road), and a whole bunch of other things. Lots of ranches, western towns, and hilly sets like you see in ST:TOS. I've been here 11 years, and I've never been to VR or Shambala. I need to get on it. I'm just at my computer all the time... watching Cinebinge.

JFC

Melanie Griffith is Tippi Hedron's daughter, not Brooke Shields.

gfixler

George is still thinking like a proper film critic, and not like a seasoned sci-fi apologist. Obviously the crew was getting immediately angsty, because that planet is wrapped in a—possibly naturally occurring—hate field. The beings attacking them are the most likely humans who ventured out this far, got caught in the hate field, and grew to massive size, hearts full of hate.

Paul McBryde

The director on this ep kept pushing for more angst and confrontation, finally the actor who played Boma got so frustrated he spoke to Leonard Nimoy that he thought it unprofessional for his character to act this way, Nimoy took the director aside and got him to back off.

gfixler

Fixed. Thanks for taking the wheel, Jesus! It's rough getting old.

Foamy

Shore Leave has a bad rep, so I'd never actually watched it til now. Oof.

Jeff Barnes

I think that the Shore Leave episode was supposed to be light-hearted, not necessarily funny. I used to watch this on tv and I don't think this is that weird of an episode. I think when you laugh at the episode you're actually laughing at the norms of tv entertainment at the time. You should try to conceptualize but you're too young to know how to put yourselves back into the late '60s so you judge it by today's standards.

Itbewhatitbe

i wonder what it is about the older generation that has such a hard time not being condescending.

Peter Dillard

It was not shot week to week but there was likely a Christmas special. Though I watched Star Trek every time it was on I don't remember this gap but back then there were a number of shows that only showed once a year at holiday time like Wizard of Oz around Thanksgiving.

R Harper

Nothing condescending said here, I wonder what it is about the younger generation that sees the most harmless dialogue as "condescending" no harm no foul it is called discussion.

Anthony Michaels

A key thing you’re missing about burying the bodies. It was always presumed (though not discussed often) that the crew had RELIGIOUS values. That was a point of tension throughout the show, given the social norms and expectations for television shows at the time. It wouldn’t just be stubbornness, but a sacred sense that a proper burial was as important as living or dying.

Stuart Sutcliffe

The difference between Story and Teleplay is illustrated by the wrinkles in "The Galileo Seven." When these split credits happen, the person who pitched the story treatment gets the "Story" credit, but the person assigned to write the script gets the "Teleplay" credit. In this episode, the differences between the two are plain on their face. When scripts lack tension, the two easiest ways to add it are adding a "ticking clock" and conflict between characters. Commissioner Ferris bothering Kirk was added for the "ticking clock" element, the tension between Spock and the crew was the character conflict. Both these elements were likely added during screenwriting, not during the treatment pitch.

Actuarial Lurker

I have always liked Scotty- he was a REAL WORLD hero- he was part of the D-DAY invasion representing the Uk/Scotland and shot multiple times and survived to land on the the Normandy beaches. Its hard to imagine seeing an actor who LIVED through the actual Saving Private Ryan opening scene....

Wayne Rasmussen

Different generations have different reactions. It was really noticeable in the Caddyshack reaction when Chevy and Lacey were at his place and what he did with the bottles. They had a very dark and totally their generation reaction, while us older people from back in that time period knew exactly what was going on there. They look on old things with modern eyes. I feel like the current generation would find fault with the Wright brothers for their plane design and not making a jet airplane as the first flying aircraft.

Wayne Rasmussen

He surrounded himself with great actors which really made it look worse. I love Rickman, hated this character and that performance, however, at least while he was on the screen it was interesting.

Wayne Rasmussen

They are just of a different generation and can get it like people in the times when it came out did. That is not a fault, just what happens.

R Harper

Blessed are the cheese makers . . .

Wayne Rasmussen

Then you think about that and realized how wrong that is.........

Lanny Fisher

Yes, because then we get into "WestWorld" territory. Cinebinge should react to the WestWorld movie and TV show.

Opti_Frog

Regarding Shore Leave, i kind of like how absurd it is, to a point. The tone is all over the place. It gets creepy when you stop to think that it's a planet where you can go and fuck an exact copy of your ex (or anyone). I mean, deepfake porn is creepy enough!

Cinebinge

oh wow, that's dark. so sad to hear about that. she's pretty great.

Cinebinge

I immediately thought of risa when I heard shore leave! :)

Rupert Purcat

I think in the original star trek, Spok is the only Vulcan in star fleet due to his mixed parentage (the Chris Pine first star trek movie went into this a bit). Spok is also the only alien crew member on enterprise (or in human ships that we see in the series. I think they use Spok as the 'other' or 'outsider' in the series that cops the racism so the cast members who are black, Asian, Scottish and Russian are made to be seen as the same as the rest of the crew. In the 7's crews defense - they just seen a long-time shipmate killed in front of them, with the addition of certain death - overreactions would likely occur. they are explorers, specialists not soldiers. Thanks - I am enjoying your reactions. Everyone will feel and think differently about them, I enjoy sharing them with you,

BzzBzzBzzBzzBzz

This was one of those episodes where tv executives got involved trying to boost ratings by connecting it to the styles and subjects of popular television at the time. I remember what tv was like back then with shows like Gilligan's island, Bewitched, Fantasy Island, they often had this whimsical feel and the music was similar using the zylophone and other bright instruments.

JBK405

I'm two weeks late, but hearing you two theorize about what sort of Holiday Special they put together only to get "Shore Leave" is a TRIP.

Molly Jacobs

@Riverton All he was saying is that the 60s campiness, which was seen a fresh modern style at that time, is perceived as hokey now and that's understandable. It simply didn't age well as a style unless it was outright comical so it wouldn't be so jarring. It would be hard to see past it to keep the immersion unless you grew up with it. Also the episode seemed strange because the goofy events were mixed with serious, but the whole episode is like a practical joke on the characters and the audience., all revealed in the end.

Data Cable

"The Galileo Seven" was a double entendre. Not only were there 7 crewmembers, but it was also shuttlecraft #7.

djKENTO

I know I’m months late to this. YOU DO NOT AIR NEW TV DURING THE HOLIDAYS. That’s why there’s a gap. You show reruns and specials. That’s it. Especially back in the day before recording show as was a thing. People are too busy and you definitely don’t show your sci-fi show. This was still niche at the time.

Ginger

Is it just me or does the fake irish guy look A LOT like Christoph Walz?

Marcus Hicks

In Galileo Seven, I think the issue is that (a) Spock is currently the only Vulcan serving in Starfleet, so their character traits would not be widely known, (b) this was the first time these particular crew members had been exposed to Spock's character traits as a COMMANDER, rather than just a high ranking crew member. Remember that Bones kept saying this was Spock's first direct experience of command.