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Star Trek: The Original Series 211-212 (Patreon)

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2024-11-29 13:30:01
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2026-01-08 03:08:42
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Monica Alarcon

You have to include Friday's Child in the YouTube cut. It may not be one of the best episodes but your reaction was great!!

Darin Foat

Dorothy (D.C.) Fontana was one of the most influential writers on TOS. She wrote several episodes on her own, and as story editor on the first two seasons did rewrites of several others. But this episode is obviously not one of her best.

Zinphad

It's from an old nursery rhyme Monday's child is fair of face, Tuesday's child is full of grace. Wednesday's child is full of woe, Thursday's child has far to go. Friday's child is loving and giving, Saturday's child works hard for a living. But the child that is born on Sabbath day, Is bonny and blithe, good and gay.

Monica Alarcon

In the novels Leonard James Akaar became an admiral in Starfleet and a recurring character...

Monica Alarcon

It's ironic after watching The Deadly Years that we eventually found out what they really look like as old people....

Actuarial Lurker

Yes Simone- Friday's Child refers to that Nursery Rhyme wording for each day of the week- this ranks up with one of the WORST episodes of ALL the series

Actuarial Lurker

Friday's Child- Star Trek meets "Medieval Recreation" think of the geeky Convention crossover cosplay there

Actuarial Lurker

Star Trek TOS Season 2: work ZOOM calls of the 2260s

Young Blood Priest

In the final season of Star Trek Enterprise they have a two part episode where they explain why the Klingons look different in TOS.

mky

Bones really shouldn't have slapped Catwoman. ;)

Actuarial Lurker

Simone: D.C. Fontana is the pseudonym for a prominent early female Sci-Fi writer Dorothy Catherine Fontana. Due to sexism she had to hide that she was a female to get scripts into the studios in the 50s and 60s, she was a secretary for Rodenberry on the cop show "The Lieutenant" that aired before TOS and worked on TOS, the Animated Series was an associate produce on TNG and wrote an episode of DS9. She also worked on Bonanza, 6 Million Dollar Man, and Dallas- a pioneer of female TV writers- this episode WAS a real clunker but other episodes that she wrote or edited were Charlie X and Tomorrow is Yesterday (when the Enterprise gets time warped int the 1960s and they have to beam that Air Force pilot back into his plane), This Side of Paradise where the spores make Spock fall in love with the blonde woman in Episode 24, she worked on the prior episode Journey to Babel, and famously she was one of 4 writers on The City on the Edge of Forever where they go back to 1930s Earth through to get McCoy and Kirk must let the social worker played by Joan Collins die- which is considered one of the best episodes ever

mky

To Leonard McCoy, Thanks for Everything! Julie Newmar

Data Cable

Back to Vasquez Rocks. Eleen was played by Julie Newmar, who was also playing Catwoman on Batman at the time. Rapidly-greying hair makes absolutely no sense. It's not that already-grown hair loses its color, but newly-produced hair lacks color. Scotty's hair growth would need to have become extremely rapid, and all his brown hair would need to have been cut off after the grey hair grew in. The whole concept of the Neutral Zone got completely lost after "Balance of Terror." It's not Romulan territory, it's *NEUTRAL*.

Simone's Coconut Squire

FYI Monday's child is fair of face, Tuesday's child is full of grace. Wednesday's child is full of woe, Thursday's child has far to go. Friday's child is loving and giving, Saturday's child works hard for a living. But the child that is born on Sabbath day, Is bonny and blithe, good and gay. So yes, same source as Wednesday's Child...

SpankTheMonk

I think in Friday’s Child the Klingons/other spacefaring societies had already “interfered” with the society so the Federation/Starfleet interference protocol doesn’t as directly apply- I believe? Or like you said the editing all over the place might have cut some important parts out. Also I believe Bones was scanning in addition to touching her belly- so through the instrument and his experience- even though aliens, and as he was studious on their culture he probably knew scientifically.

SpankTheMonk

So ToS takes place 80ish years after Earth started going places farther than the solar system with warp. I can excuse some of the simplicity and crude understanding and interactions with other societies of alien species because of this naivety. I mean if we compare to humans meeting other human cultures for the first time on earth, ToS are first rate diplomats. 🤷

SpankTheMonk

Also I will defend Fridays Child, not my favorite but i do like when they try to create some kind of new culture and philosophies, especially with 47 minutes and in the 1960s television dynamics. Also there are worse. I feel bad for D.C. Fontana 😢

Simone's Coconut Squire

My best guess on the Friday's Child episode: The director, writers, and editors all got drunk and swapped jobs for an episode.

SpankTheMonk

You are misremembering Simone 😅. Also they continue the silliness to send leadership- can’t say no to the TV stars 😉. Bone’s getting super southern is fun.

Lanny Fisher

I think you guys are too hard on Star Trek! :) You are analyzing it from a 2024 perspective. I know it's not easy, but try looking at it from the perspective of someone from the 60s or 70s. There wasn't loads and loads of content like there is now. People were happy to be entertained for an hour, and so they accepted television "magic" (such as Captain Kirk judo-chopping someone unconscious) as a valid device to tell the story. Even when I watch a bad episode of Star Trek, I enjoy it. Campiness is an art form in itself, and part of history. We will never see such campiness again.

Simon Pegged Me

Interesting fact: this episode originally aired on December 1, 1967, a Friday.

Simon Pegged Me

The first thing I thought about when George commented that the Capellan warrior looked like a beer bottle was Surly of the Seven Duffs, from the "Selma's Choice" episode of The Simpsons in which Selma takes Bart and Lisa to Duff's Gardens. Now, whenever I think about Friday's Child—it's my Roman Empire; I think of it often—I'll remember that warrior as saying, "Hey, Surly only looks out for one guy: Surly," even though I know he did not.

gfixler

Friday's Episode is full of "... Whoa."

Sergio Meira

In Friday's Child, what you really didn't like was McCoy's oochie-woochie-goochie-goo, right? That's what really made you hate it. :-)

Skyruff Creative

when Kirk , Spock, and scotty are not in command, Ohura is next in command but is a junior officer. Also even though she is theoretically in line, they always make sure she never is seen "sitting in the chair" or is seen in command. (Edit was to fix a typo in the first use of command)

Skyruff Creative

Your comments about the command crew all goin on away missions is a complaint from the original series that is addressed in all latter series not involving the original crew..

SpankTheMonk
>>156835111

Wow- great call out! Yes I remember faintly a character in the Simpsons representing that alien species- bravo 🙌

gfixler

I like to think that a Commodore wrote Friday's Child, and then a captain burst in, threw him out, and wrote The Deadly Years.

Frankie Crews

I don't know if anyone else mentioned this but I think a large part of the reason politicians and diplomats are portrayed in such a negative light on the show is because the show was created in the Vietnam War era. I'm not surprised that a writers room of counter culture people had an overall dim attiitude for those roles at that time.

Paul McBryde

"Hey Guys, if we hit 200k by next month George will wear a Captain Kirk outfit and Simone will talk like Shatner." Guaranteed results.

Ginger

Looking forward to next week ;)

3dbadboy1

Now Simone can add that to her Book of Scientific Methods :)

3dbadboy1

D.C. Fontana was a TV playright who chose this name so she would be taken seriously.

3dbadboy1

Dr. McCoy said that the affliction 'resembled' old aging, not that it was old aging. So recovery may be different and in this case it 'was' different.

Angela's invisible airfryer (corey)

I had to close the reaction and finish Friday's Child alone. I don't know if the gang got high before this recording or what but laughing at every other random mundane line like it's the worst episode of TV ever made got a little insulting. They made fun of Kirk for not understanding that different races have different ideals and then when McCoy spends the second half of the episode understanding just that they think it's poorly written silliness. Weird.

Angzarr

I haven't seen The Deadly Years is a long time. It hits different with parents with dementia and Alzheimers. Kirk's behavior in particular reminds me of Alzheimers, especially the refusing to recognize that there is a problem.

JoeNotCharles

I'm going back through TOS and ironically reached this just after your Encounter at Farpoint reaction - it's crazy how much better the old age makeup here looks than McCoy's in TNG!

Patrick - Excelsior

The natives in Friday's Child became the template for the Klingons in Star Trek The Next Generation. The customs and rituals are identical. The only part they didn't use was the clothing and throwing star. The fact that Klingon's are tall, the respect for violence, the warrior honor code, killing your leader to obtain rank, the use of hitting each other as a part of mating ritual that you see in the TNG Klingons all came from these people. D.C. Fontana, the writer and story editor in the Star Trek Friday's child, contributed significantly to the development of Klingon culture in Star Trek: The Next Generation (TNG).