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Shogun: 105-106 (Patreon)

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2025-01-21 13:00:08
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2026-01-07 00:43:34
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Mastervodo

I've been waiting for this one! Episode 6 has I think the best scene in the whole series, between Blackthorne, Mariko, and Kiku The way it's shot. The perception and kindness of Kiku. The anguish between the 2 main characters. Just so heartbreaking! Can't wait to get home and see what Simone and George say about the scene!

Richard Rear

game meat is left to semi rot, think like its fermented, it gives it a acquired taste pheasant pigeon etc Hanging game is the process of leaving game meat in a cool place before processing it. This process can tenderize the meat and give it a stronger flavor

John

This has been a great series to watch. Given that the trailer for the new season of Daredevil was recently released. I wonder if you would consider visiting the Marvel Television Expanded Universe (Daredevil, Jessica Jones, Luke Cage, Iron Fist(you can skip), The Defenders, Punisher)

Itbewhatitbe

ya thats.. thats no where near what hes doing in the show lmao. youre suppose to gut it and clean it first if the guts has been pierced/torn.

Mastervodo

Simone would love Jessica Jones and Luke Cage. Probably.

Richard Rear

How to hang a pheasant Hang the pheasant by the neck in a cool place, like a garage or cold larder Leave the pheasant intact, or pluck and gut it after hanging Hang for a desired amount of time, which can range from a few days to a week

Itbewhatitbe

bruh you really gonna argue what he did in the show is correct? the show itself is literally showing it as rotting, covered in flies and smells awful. and if its covered in flies, its gonna be filled with maggots.

Richard Rear

i know sems strange not to gut it but appears thats the way to do it,

Richard Rear

im just saying how it should be done, they were asking why u would hang meat so explained it to them,

Itbewhatitbe

no dude. the not gutting part is only true IF the gut isnt pierced and torn. once that happens, all the literal shit, blood and bacterial is leaking inside the carcass. at that point, you need to gut and clean or it festers.

Richard Rear

yeah true but im explaing to them why u hang meat

Itbewhatitbe

theres literally thousands of videos of hanging pheasant and none of them are covered in flies.

Richard Rear

agree think show makers dont understand, but alli was doing was explaing to the reactors why u hang meat

Tsuyama

Richard... hanging the meat to age it is not the same as letting it rot. dry age and meat hanging requires controlled environment. dry, cool and circulating air. not just letting it hang outside in humidity where swarms of flies can gather. Blackthorn is likely doing something hes seen other people do, but doenst understand why so he messed up. and by the look of your replies, youre just copy and pasting google searches without actually understanding why either. the show makers is very deliberately showing Blackthorn not understanding what hes doing and that hes fucking up.

Richard Rear

and how that makes it gamey giving it that certain taste

Richard Rear

i will say it again they asked why u would hang meat i yes i copied and pasted the reply as to why u would hang meat, thats all simple

Richard Rear

ps i can imaging the reactors seeing this post and thinking of all the things in the show this is what these sad sacks (me included) are having a discussion about

Richard Rear

pps next discussion, why did the chicken cross the road

Jeff K.

So this is the best opening title sequence since Game of Thrones, right? We're all in agreement? Good.

Jeff K.

@Richard Rear because the chicken didn't like the looks of a pack of ruffians up ahead and wanted to give them a wide berth.

Richard Rear

love the sound tack but for some reason always makes me think of westworld, does not sound the same but strange unease

Nemo

One of the things I really appreciate about this show is that Blackthorn is not just another bumbling ignorant western white guy. Sure, he is bumbling to a degree, but it's not just another excuse to sh*t on the west. He is actually given a fair amount of moral high ground and reasonable opinions, not to mention his successful efforts to help them in clutch moments. I think they do a good job of balancing the beautiful parts of Japanese culture with its contentious aspects without proclaiming either one to be superior.

Bookwormy

I can't wait to watch this and unwind with you guys.

Jeff K.

Totally agree. I remember when the show first aired, I didn't start watching it until the season was nearly over, and the AV Club reviews kept having headlines talking about how he "keeps failing upward" and once I actually watched the show, I was like... huh? I mean, like you said, he does some bumbling. And he keeps getting lavished with gifts from Toranaga that he doesn't want. But I wouldn't say he's "failing" upwards. His only failure, overall, is his inability to convince Toranaga to let him leave. But he shows heroism and bravery over and over, for example, and proves himself very useful.

Mastervodo

Loved the 'binges reaction to the Ep6 Scene. My interpretation of that scene was as perceptive (PER 18) as Kiku is, she saw quickly how B & M felt for each other. I feel as though she genuinely sympathized with M, and her whole speech was constructed to tell them both, "I know you are in a bad situation you both wish you could escape. And you could, tonight, safely... for at least a moment. That's what we do here." It was a genuine invitation to let themselves be happy and free for a night. And while it was heart-rending for both of them, they could not trust her or others in the house, and therefore M had to leave. It's also possible that I am naive and too trusting, and would probably be beheaded very early on in my life in that culture.

Chris

Love these episodes, because it's where it finally becomes clear that Shogun's secret weapon is that it's not Blackthorne's story, or Toronaga's. It's Mariko's.

Bookwormy

I cannot wait for the reactions to Ochiba no Kata. Amazing chacracter, acted brilliantly.

Bookwormy

I cannot get over the way this show uses dinner and conversation; it's SO good.

Sergio Meira

Ah, the joys of cultural shock and cultural misunderstandings! Isn't it wonderful to be able to look at Japanese culture through John's eyes -- and also to be able to look at John's culture (early 17th-century England) through the eyes of e.g. Mariko-sama or Toranaga-dono? The peculiarities in each case are so... instructive. Just look at the entire exchange between John and Buntaro, up to the point when Buntaro apologizes. They just can't understand what the other is doing, can they?

Happy Hanukkah

I'll take your comment as an opportunity to bang my The 13th Warrior (1999) drum.

Happy Hanukkah

That's why I love Cinebinge: the long comment threads about rotting meat! :-)

Happy Hanukkah

"the chicken didn't like the looks of a pack of ruffians up ahead and wanted to give them a wide berth" Pshaw! What a chicken!

Ste Rawlings

This (episode 5) is my favourite episode of the show, it's all about Anjin discovering that his words and actions have meaning and consequences for other people. This helps him to become less individualistic and is all part of him starting to understand Japanese culture a little more. 1. Buntaro hits Mariko and when John confronts him he blames the sake. The only reason he had drank so much in the first place was because Anjin provoked him into a pissing contest where they went bowl for bowl. His actions had consequences for somebody other than him. 2. John learns that his words have meaning when the gardener sacrifices himself to take down the pheasant. We as an audience also see that his death isn't meaningless as it allowed Toranaga's spy to go undiscovered. 3. John learns from Mariko that the swords Fuji gave him have no real significance or importance but the act of him giving them to Toranaga bestows value upon them.

Ste Rawlings

She'd like Luke Cage, it's a bad show, but she'd like it for erm... reasons.

Bookwormy

Converted, best guess, the price for Kiku's night was about 1500 USD.

Odd Thomas

With the passing of David Lynch, please make Twin Peaks your next show!

Sergio Meira

"No one has explained their culture to John..." Yeah, but this is the 17th century. People often thought back then that their culture was "obvious" and everbody else's was "barbarism." Remember Yabushige calling John a "barbarian"? Even Toranaga ends up seeing John's reactions as "child's behavior"... so they just find him weird. As I think Englishmen would find Toranaga or Yabushige just weird if they were to show up alone in London. I.e., "explaining" a culture already presupposes some kind of relativism (another culture is, well, a culture) which maybe they were not really capable of back then. These were the we're-right-and-they're-barbarians time. In other words, to have told John that his words would be taken so damn seriously would imply knowing that it is not necessarily natural to do so (because other cultures don't, etc.) which in those days nobody would -- the Europeans just as much as the Japanese. Note how similarly difficult it is for Europeans to explain the religious-based enmity between John and the Portuguese like Fray Martim (who converted Mariko to Catholicism and calls her 'Lady Maria') to the Japanese. Hell, think of John's and Rodrigues' insult-based sorta friendship -- would it make any sense at all to the Japanese?

Jeff K.

I haven't watched the show since it first aired last year, so I had forgotten how that scene was blocked, and holy crap, it's so beautifully done to have Kiku disappear behind Mariko, to really emphasize that the words, while coming from Kiku, were really what Mariko felt but could not say. Amazingly well shot.

E G

Season 1 of JJ is great and david tennant is amazing as killgrave.

p0sthum4n

The warbling delivery of Noh theater kind of freaks me out. Idk why.

REDR58

“Broken to the Fist”? “To the death!” “No! To the pain!”

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Comment edits

2026-09-05 05:00 The poor gardener permanently bent over with years of hard work. I wonder when hard liquor came to Western Europe? Oh I wonder if George Martin got the idea for the Kingslayer from Shogun? True culture shock. I didn’t catch the understanding of his consort’s father’s swords and something about buying them from a yard sale?
2025-01-22 08:50

BangDroid

Like what George said about the scene in the Tea House, "When you make everything so still, every little gesture speaks so much." It is the same with comments here, with a show like this, even the most seemingly innocuous comment can be a spoiler.

HansD

Japanese opera... Well... It's not Wagner though is it?

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Comment edits

2026-09-05 05:00 So her ( Ochiba no Kata ) father was the mad king, that explains a lot of her motivations. On top of the things she went through.
2025-01-23 06:29

Richard Rear

oh yeah raised by wolves was great to and expanse

Gabriel L.

Her father wasn't the Mad King, her father was Jaime Lannister.

SpankTheMonk
>>162184412

Sorry I should have specified the former consort of the dead prior shogun. I edited my comment above.

Matthew

As some one who hunts pheasant, woodcock and partridge every week, you can absolutely hang it up to mature depending on how gamey you like your meat. 2 days is great, 3 is perfect if you can stand to wait that long. Although if the Bird has a puncture in their abdomen or gut then NO(like it appeared here), it will absolutely rot and youll get incredibly ill or even die trying to eat it. Also I cant speak for Japan but in scotland the perfect temperature is between 1C and 6C, any warmer and the bird will fester and humidity is another thing entirely. After 2 days in the hot, wet humidity, that bird will be smelled by everyone within 50 meters and not a good smell.

Matthew

Yeah! Uejiro was a champ! In the book it goes into a little more detail and shows through multiple instances that he is in great pain most of the day, cant go to the bathroom without some form of aid and urinating is incredibly painful for him. There is a discussion between the entire house (without Johns knowledge) where Uejiro volunteers as he cant stand living with his hardships and before he commits to moving the pheasant, he feels greatly relieved to be of service one last time, to him its a blessing. Also Fuji-Sama after finding out about the Rabbit stew, immediately orders a second kitchen to be built for Johns "special meals" and orders a whole second set of pots, pans and utensils so as to not foul their home with his "meat proclivities" As for hard liquor - it was first recordered in Persia round about 900AD, and although we dont know exactly where it spreads first, we know it gets its way into Western Europe through Salerno, Italy but not for recreation, its more of a medicine and its refered to as "Aqua Vitae" in the 1200s by the first medical school called the Schola Medica Salernitana (which is full of amazing early discoveries, the history is super vibrant, check it out!). It only starts becoming recreational in the late 1400s/ early 1500s and Brandy becomes very widespread and people start to party (and by people, mostly its monks, scholars and doctors who enjoy it until the Dutch invent Gin and make it a commercial good, then it spreads around the world! Im not too sure about the Kingslayer thing though!

Sumner Hayes

"I wonder when hard liquor came to Western Europe?" Distillation appears in Alexandria in the 1st century and with the Moors enters Spain in the 700s. It crosses from the east into Italy in the 12th century (1100s). By the 13th century, Florentine chemist Taddeo Alderotti had published a book describing a water-cooled fractional distillation still that could produce 90% ethanol (basically in the Everclear range). By the 1400s, there are records of Scotch whisky production, Polish vodka, French brandy, etc all over the continent. By the time of Shōgun, an experienced sailor like the Anjin who was well-familiar with the Portuguese would likely be well-familiar with port (on a par with sake, strength-wise) and probably brandy (much stronger) and sherry (similar to port).