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Matt O'Keefe

Been waiting on this for George.

mayhem74

I'd love to see y'all react to Clive Barker's "Nightbreed". Practical fx on a fantasy horror from my favorite author. I just really think y'all would dig it, though it is more of a cult classic and not likely to win any polls.

blerbaberpaterb

That's Chris Tucker, a completely different black man... rInG aNy bElLs?? edit: awww why you delete your comment, you were so confidently condescending with the whole "ring any bells???"

JayF

Oh man. During their talk on the boat near the beginning I was reminded of Leo's moment with Riggs later on. I bet that one still hits hard and I've seen this a few times already.

Matt O'Keefe

Murtaugh's insurance premiums must be insane.

Rokkor X

This is the first time I have seen reactors not like the post fight scenes. I have thought the ending was great since this movie came out. The ending was closure for the franchise. They have each other as family now. And Leo's scene with Riggs was very touching and came at the right moment for Riggs.

blerbaberpaterb

i reckon most reactors just say they like something even if they dont to avoid rabid fans thinking disagreement on taste = personal insult.

Rokkor X

No I just went and checked a few of my favorite reactors and they genuinely enjoyed it. Some even teared up at Leo’s story.

blerbaberpaterb

ya but you understand that people can just pretend right? like generally speaking reactors are aware their audience are fans of the movie, so they likely will hold back negative things. i aint saying its not possible for people to like the ending, but theres a reason why the 4th one is the lowest rated one. AND, as the trivia portion points out, had huge production problems like, writing the movie as theyre being edited...

Roger Davies

The ending is great, you different opinion havers you.

Alan Pownall

Leo's story comes at the exact moment it should, Riggs is struggling with the idea that he is replacing his dead wife, looking for help with that and then Leo comes along and resolves it for him. I'm not sure where else you would put it and you need something as pay for the plot thread beyond Martin gets over his dead wife somehow.

Jameson Yates

You guys really missed the point of Leo's frog story, and it was placed deftly and right where it needed to be. Martin Riggs is struggling because he feels like he's replacing his dead wife with a different woman, and Leo's story is about how "Froggy was my best and only friends then, but you're now my best and only friends. You didn't replace him, you're different."

BigM

Now we need to watch Loaded Weapon.

Rokkor X

I’m not naive. But I can tell a genuine reaction from a fake one. In my experience that scene is generally well liked. And the commenters seem to agree. So it’s more likely that other reactors caught the intent better than our two reactors here. That’s more likely than people changing their reaction due to comments they haven’t read yet. Everyone is caught off guard by the initial interruption but by listening to Leo it all makes sense. After all he’s know Leo longer than he knew his wife at this point.

Chris B

underrated comment!

Tim

The story about Froggy is one of my FAVORITE segments in the whole series!!! It comes full circle with Riggs relationship with Vicki as the beginning when he says "I'll see you later. Much Later." to then meeting Leo, (I love the L.E.O. reference) and how he evolved in the second movie into what he becomes in the fourth. Lorna coming in was hard for him to discuss Marriage and Kids since he wasn't "over" the death of Vicki, and thought he would be replacing her. The WHOLE point of the story is to tell Riggs that Lorna is not replacing Vicki, but because she is gone, Vicki wants him to move on and be happy. "You sent a strange angel, but I got the message". I was a little disappointed that you didn't get the timing of the story, because it is the culmination of Riggs journey to go from putting his Weapon in different places around his head in the first movie to accepting his wife's death, growing from it, and then finally learning to love someone else. The story is oddly "placed" because it interrupts a very sad moment with a story meant to "disarm" Riggs with his own story of pain and trauma to understand loss and gains. Froggy died and Leo finally found a "replacement" for his best friend, but it wasn't a replacement as much as a different situation, and that is okay. Leo was telling Riggs that Vicki wouldn't want him to stop living his life, just because his best friend is gone, because at the end of the day, you might find the person who helps you get over your trauma, and find peace! {End Rant} p.s. I love you two as reactors!!

blerbaberpaterb

no shit commenters here will like the end scene, because why would people who dont like the movie watch a reaction of it. the only comments you will see in any video are going to be fans, everyone else just moves on. so only seeing comments that agrees with you is not the same as actual general consensus.

Vellu

The ending is a cheesy mess and goes on for way too long, but otherwise this was a better movie than I remembered.

Paul Mix

+1 on Nightbreed!

Gryff

That thumbnail is wild, George lolol

Cinebinge

yeah no we understand the intention and why its put there, we just personally dont agree with its placement. in our opinion, and its only an opinion, we both would've prefer it if the scene just let Riggs work it out on his own, mirroring the start of the start of the franchise when he was alone and struggling, wanting to end it all. but more than anything else, and again just subjective opinion only, both of us would get so annoyed if someone interrupted a private emotional moment to tell a story about themselves. even if theyre trying to be helpful.

Cinebinge

oh no we get the point, we just didnt enjoy where it was placed. this is entirely a subjective preference thing, but we both definitely wouldve preferred it if Riggs got to work through it himself. further more, it is only our opinion, but if someone, even a close friend, interrupts a very private moment by telling a story about themselves, even if they were trying to help, we would absolutely be really irritated.

Tim

That's fair and totally fine. From the outside, seems that part and forward made you annoyed, err, sad for the rest of the movie. For us, it was the end of the franchise and needed the closure of Riggs grief. Personally, I enjoyed that scene, but it makes sense on your perspective!

Cinebinge

yeah no we get the point of the story, we just didnt enjoy where it was placed. this is entirely a subjective preference thing, but we both definitely wouldve preferred it if Riggs got to work through it himself. further more, it is only our opinion, but if someone, even a close friend, interrupts a very private moment by telling a story about themselves, even if they were trying to help, we would absolutely be really irritated.

Tom Hess

Throughout the intro I thought "why aren't S&G talking about Jet Li?" Then I realized he wasn't on your poster. But he's definitely on my poster. I have an original french LW4 poster, and the 3 people at the front are Mel Gibson, Danny Glover and Jet Li. Weird.

Cinebinge

felt too risky to put Simone on a Chinese kid.

Tom Hess

Just FYI: Simone is slightly out of sync with the footage in the uncovered version. By a little over half a second maybe? at 8:20 she says "oh my God" before we see what's going on. at 8:35 she reacts to Mel Gibson's joke before he's done saying it. I'm not saying it needs a re-encode. It's perfectly watchable. Just something to look out for. You guys are often slightly ahead of the film footage in those versions.

Alan Pownall

I don't think I would appreciate such an interuption either but Riggs literally asks for help out loud, recieves said help and appreciates said help; so it doesn't bother me as a viewer but as you say it is going to land differently for different people.

JayF

Not sure what the confusion was about with the graveyard scene. Riggs is asking his wife for guidance. Leo shows up, tells his story. Riggs accepts that as an answer from his wife. I could understand if it was just not liking the execution of it. I'm not really getting the confusion over why it happened. I always thought it was touching because of the guilt that naturally comes with having to move on from a deceased spouse but that's just me.

Cinebinge

yes we understand what they're trying to do and why its put there, we just personally dont agree with its placement. in our opinion, and its only an opinion, we both would've prefer it if the scene just let Riggs work it out on his own, mirroring the start of the start of the franchise when he was alone and struggling, wanting to end it all. but more than anything else, and again just subjective opinion only, both of us would get so annoyed if someone interrupted a private emotional moment to tell a story about themselves. even if theyre trying to be helpful. as for the actual story being told, and the asking/leo show up. to us, just personal opinion wise, felt too much, too sappy. it just didnt land for either of us.

Guthwulf

Don't get your strange hate on the ending and your confusion with the graveyard scene. Did we watch the same movie? It was a nice send off for the franchise and this "family" of characters (since it was supposed to be / very likely the last movie). I thought it was endearing and touching... including the nostalgic photos during the end credits. And of course Leo was always "cringe" and "awkward" so his strange frog story fit him perfectly and made me chuckle. I'm grateful we got to spend a little bit more time with these characters seeing the kids being born and getting a last photo with all of them together instead of just ending it with the final fight. It never was about the villains it always was about the main characters and their "families". A little bit like seeing how life is going on in the end of lord of the rings.

Guthwulf

Or maybe the other reactors really liked the ending? Difference in tastes and all... assuming somebody is pretending or lying just because you don't agree with them is... rather childish.

blerbaberpaterb

its nice for you but not for others, whats not to understand?

blerbaberpaterb

Guthwulf, you seem to understand the concept that other people have different taste when it comes to liking this movie, yet you cant seem to grasp that same concept when it comes to S&G not liking the end. but hey, i appreciate you calling me childish. gives a good reason to block and report.

Cinebinge

Hi folks, we understand emotions can run high but at the end of the day it's just movies and opinions, so lets please refrain from descending into pointless personal insults. Lets please keep things civil and all be adults in this.

Rokkor X

I don’t feel cringe for it because it’s the one time we see Leo who has been in 3 movies now get to be open and vulnerable at a time when Riggs needed it.

Rokkor X

Yeah I hope no one takes my comments personally. I try to keep it friendly here since this is my favorite reaction channel and I don’t want it to be toxic.

Guthwulf

I get that they didn't like it, I don't understand their reasoning for why ...

Superpotroast

Personally 4 is my favorite and that's mostly because of the long-established characters interacting with each other and having their own long running jokes and the whole Butters thing with Murtaugh..The telephone scene between Leo and Butters is the best part of the movie..Some of the action is totally ridiculous, Jet Li is amazing as always, and every car just blows up for no reason.. The ending is a bit hit or miss, I appreciate the heartfelt moment with Leo and Riggs, but I totally see why it can be seen as a bad place to put it where they did..I never really thought about that before, just appreciated Leo's story and the 'family focused' ending.. I watched this movie a ton of times on TV so a lot of the cussing and the very gruesome rebar through the Jet Li was cut out..So I forgot how much actual violence was in this..

Guthwulf

@bob eats fish You accused "most reactors" (who you obviously don't agree with) to pretend or fake their reaction. I'm sure there are reactors out there who pretend. But just because somebody has a different opinion doesn't mean they're "faking" it. I get that S&G didn't like it (and believe them) I just couldn't follow their reasoning for it. That's something completely different from what you did on your above comment.

Cinebinge

hi Guthwulf, we'll try to expand on our reasoning a bit more but please do keep in mind this is just a matter of preferences, and has no baring in yours or anyone else's enjoyment. Just different people with different views. for us, the main issue with the graveyard and hospital scene, felt overdone in a few different ways. With the graveyard scene, we understand its to show us again that Leo is the weird funny uncle and theyre a family, we get that, but we already knew that before this. to us, it felt overdone to repeat it yet again. We already know hes the funny awkward guy, we already know hes part of the group since the boat hang out at the beginning. What we thought we were going to see, and were excited for, was a solo Rigg moment to know that hes okay to be alone, that he has grown in that aspect too because the franchise began with him very much not okay being alone, ready to end it all. only to have it interrupted, and this is definitely personal opinions on our end, if someone interrupted a very private and personal moment we were having with a dead loved one, even if its good intentions, we would both be incredibly irritated. with the hospital scene, there was 2 things that didnt work for us, and its entirely just a matter of preference. first is the birth/marriage joke, for us the joke was too long. yes she wants to get married literally minutes before birthing a child, the punchline in our opinion is her shouting "im not having this baby till we're married". its absurd, its funny, its done. but then it kept going, first we needed a priest, but then theres a rabbi, but then the rabbi didnt know the words, but then we needed a glass, but then theres only a pee cup...etc. etc. it just went on too long for us. the second part with the hospital scene that didnt work for us, and its just a preference thing, is that it felt too sappy for us. we understood everyones a family, and they love eachother, there were 3 movies to build that up, and several instances in this film to hammer home the family theme through action. it felt redundant to then have it literally shouted at us, preceded by one more Leo taking forever to do things joke. it was just too much for us. using your LOTR comparison, yes the end of the trilogy had to show life goes on. but it wasn't just the group at the tavern and saying good bye, it also showed how each person dealt with their experience individually, the wound that never heals, the new chapter with Sams own family and so on. AND, more importantly, they didn't then squeeze in 2 more instances of Mary/Pipping being jokesters one last time. however, even for the two of us die hard LOTR fans, it felt too damn long as well. we often joke about how it had too many conclusions, it is in fact one of the main parts of the trilogy that we liked least. this of course, is entirely just our preferences in things and is in no way us condemning others for liking it or having differing opinions. we understand why people like it, and we understand why people didnt, we just happen to fall into the second category.

Jose Robles

I would like it too, but they have reacted to 2 spoof movies in 1 month, maybe will take some time before they revisted a spoof movie

DM DC

This one is my favorite of the 4 films. I am going to disagree with both of you regarding the ending - I thought this was a great ending. Nothing wrong with the pacing or length of it. I think you're both just being over critical of it and completely missed the some points there at the end. Also I would agree with other comments about placement of Leo's frog story. And Georges thought on how to cut it- definitely disagree with that- that would be a completely wrong ending. Just because the writing wasn't' finished at the time means nothing.

Guthwulf

Nothing wrong with not liking the ending, I was just curious because I didn't understand what bothered you so much since I'm almost at the opposite of your opinion and did never see a reaction like yours to that ending. So thx for expanding on your reasoning! That helps to follow your thought process. I still disagree... but that's just different tastes. Btw... the 10 endings in LOTR where to much for me as well. The "one" ending in Lethal Weapon 4 on the other hand I rather liked. I watched it back in the day in the cinema knowing it would be the last movie... so I was happy to spend just a little bit more silly time with these characters. I'm sure nostalgia plays a part here as well for me.

nossieboy

It’s too sexy for them.

nossieboy

Aww look at lil Georgie in that thumbnail.

Duh-jango

I’m glad you enjoyed the name callout at the end. Now, let’s see what I can cook up for George.

Vellu

Hate is a strong word that gets thrown around too lightly these days, not liking something does not automatically constitute hate.

24fps_

I'm with you on this Guthwulf... the ending fits the silly stuff we saw before... if you would put this ending into the first movie I would agree that that would not work... but for me these movies are about friends/family busting each others balls.. the action is almost secondary... and all movies after the first are not really that serious.. Which is why Shane Black, who wrote the first, pretty much hates all the sequels because they made them into comedys.

m

what do you mean, is there an upper limit on spoof movies you can watch in a given time frame? Also: Sunny episodes for sure

24fps_

yeah the writing thing doesnt' mean anything.. I heard Chris McQuarrie say that the last four mission impossible movies started filming without a complete script...some only with descriptions of the major actions sequences... which is insane... so this stuff happens way more often than people think...

Jason Pratt

I’ll have to watch at lunch. Looking forward to it! Maverick with Mel Gibson is a fun period piece with Jodie Foster James Garner and Alfred Molina.

Gryff

Cheerleader! Simone! What's her face! And the ugly one!!!

Tom Hess

Appreciated.

Happy Hanukkah

"Scenes were scheduled for filming in chronological order as much as possible." Heck, I wouldn't be surprised if many people found nothing noteworthy about this.

Happy Hanukkah

I don't have a problem with the ending. I also don't have a problem with your not liking it. I'd rather you be unconscionably and almost perversely wrong :-) than pander. Perhaps it would help you to see it not as the end of this movie, but rather as a short special (Lethal Weapon 4.5) meant to serve as a good-bye to the franchise and merely appended to this movie.

Dan Holmes

wish you put simone in blackface as chris rock! 😅

Dan Holmes

Serious suggestion to watch It's Always Sunny as your next long show if you haven't seen it. Or at least watch the Lethal Weapon 5 episode people have referenced (Season 6 Episode 9)

MrCAL

The intention of the froggy scene is clear, however I do agree the execution doesn't quite land. In my opinion Riggs should have been left alone at the grave, talking out loud to his ex wife about what he should do and that he needing a sign (with a single cut half way through to Leo waiting for him inside the car, watching Riggs sympathetically.) Riggs beeper then goes off. Riggs says his goodbyes and shouts over to Leo whilst getting up urgently onto his crutches “Hey Leo! my beepers gone off, we need to go!” Riggs gets into the back of the car with Leo behind the wheel setting off to the hospital. It is at this point after taking a couple of looks in the rear view mirror at a troubled and conflicted Riggs, Leo starts telling him (unprompted) about the lose of his pet frog, his best friend, his only friend and how sad he was to lose him and the guilt of replacing him. Riggs looks confused at first but begins to see the parallels. Leo stops and apologizes for bringing up “his stupid story of a pet frog”. Riggs meets Leos eyes in the rear view mirror and says “No, no Leo..., it wasn't stupid. Thank you” He kisses his wedding band and looks out the window with a little smile. Cut to the inside of the hospital.

blerbaberpaterb

"people loved the ending". i like that you just decided you get to speak for everyone. even in the comments of this post theres people who dont like it, with the 4th one having the lowest rating of the franchise. but nope, apparently "people all loved it". if youve never heard of anyone saying a different opinion, that isnt because no one has a different opinion. it just means you live in a bubble and forget/ignore opinions that isnt what yours. it just means you only read opinions that validate yours. there is no such thing as a movie thats universally agreed upon.

Tom Hess

Eddy Ko is a fantastic actor. Most expressive eyes in Hong-Kong. His best role IMO is in Tsui Hark's "We're going to eat you" (1980). He's still active today at age 87. And George is right, he also has a cameo in Rumble in the Bronx.

Christina Doxstader

The graveside scene is one of my favorite scenes in the whole franchise. A bit cheesy perhaps but it is so heartfelt and it hits the mark on messaging when it cones to moving on after loss.

Happy Hanukkah

"people all loved it" Source needed, Bob.

Happy Hanukkah

One nitpick: are you sure about Eddy Ko being in The Bruce Lee Story? (We can credit him for Rumble in the Bronx instead. :-) )

Cinebinge

We understand that emotions can run high with films you enjoy and that you may be disappointed we didn't feel what you wanted to us to feel, you are more than welcome to disagree and we love hearing your points of view and why you felt differently. However, please note that every time a comment is posted, we get an email, in its original form. This means that even if you edit or delete it right after, we still have an email with what you originally said; insults, threats and all. So if your plan was to comment and instant delete so we see it but cant respond to it, we still have the email as evidence and will act accordingly. With that being said. We get it, we understand the disappointment in hearing us criticize and not enjoy something the way you did, we get that can be frustrating- but we're never going to pander and lie to you on how we actually feel about what we watched. Because we expect everyone here to be reasonable and sensible adults who understands nuance and does not take differing perspectives on movies as something personal. And that is pretty much everyone here, and we love everyone who keep things civil, and take the time to write out to us what you disagree with and why. We love reading them, and on occasion, reply to them to discuss further, or explain ourselves better with hindsight. What we do not accept are insults, harassment and threats over something as trivial as subjective experience and movie opinions. Even if you post and delete/edit right away, we can tell the difference between immediate regret vs deliberate attempts to comment and hide.

blerbaberpaterb

read again. i didnt make that claim. DT Nelson did. he claims to know what 'everyone' thinks and feels.

Vinnero

That is how I looked at it as well.

iFixSAN

I just find it funny that this movie was written by the creators of Wednesday and Smallville.

24fps_

these movies are essentially about family.. hence the picture at the end and the credits scene showing the crew who worked on them.

Happy Hanukkah

My point was that he didn't, nor did he write "everyone." Not that I know for sure what he feels and thinks :-) , but I read his "people loved the ending" similarly to, say, "people love chocolate." Of course not everyone does, but a majority of people do. (And I have no problem whatsoever with those who don't, nor with S&G for not liking the ending, and I hopefully assume that DT doesn't either but is simply making the case for what I think is the majority opinion.)

M.C.G

Sorry folks got so weird at you! Anyway, just wanted to recommend another Danny Glover film, Switchback (1997). Unlikely to win any polls, but I think it would be a fun reaction for extremely specific reasons that would be a spoiler to elucidate, lol

Happy Hanukkah

The official name for the ATV movie seems to be Spirit of the Dragon. https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E6%9D%8E%E5%B0%8F%E9%BE%8D%E5%82%B3 [ADDED: And whaddaya know! Someone seems to have corrected the Eddy Ko page.] This has been a very difficult day for me. I have discovered both that Wikipedia cannot be blindly trusted, AND that Simone and George have lost all sense and taste when it comes to movies! 😭😭😭 😂

Amelie W

I saw this in theaters and a couple of times since, but I had no memory of the denoument. Mostly just the rad fights with Jet Li. Maybe they thought Joe Pesci hadn't had enough screen time or something, but I wouldn't worry about his lasting impression.

BigM

I don't want to speak for George or Simone, but I know that George at least is not religious or believe in the supernatural, neither do I, and that could be why the whole idea of Leo coming with a rather weak metaphor like that as a "sign" from his dead wife doesn't really land.

Happy Hanukkah

"deliberate attempts to comment and hide"?! Ick! There's also the matter that while there is no problem with any one of us courteously communicating our differing opinions to George, the cumulative effect of a barrage of very similar comments can be much more negative than intended. Anyhow, despite your inexplicable lapse in this case :-) , I would assume that the vast majority of us appreciate what you do. Thanks.

BigM

While your disagreement with the ending doesn't bother me, I'm Abit surprised by your idea that it would be hard to get Riggs out from under the rubble, "especially under water". The buoyancy of the water would make it easier to lift under water. I guess not everyone would know that but you are intelligent people so it threw me off Abit.

Carlos H

So, all those times I edited my embarrassing mistakes, you had the original AND the edit?😭

Happy Hanukkah

Thou shalt not judge Lethal Weapon by Danny Glover.

Shikyo

Hmmm video removed? Due to comments or copyright alterations?

Cinebinge

reuploaded due to midroll patreon segment was missing audio.

Eric Wilson

So and so, whats her face, THE UGLY ONE!

Happy Hanukkah

Dudes, did you not notice that the movie ends with a picture(s)? *Of course* the lead-up to that had to be cheese-y! :-P

Shibby

I'm glad you guys enjoyed this one it's one of my favourites mainly for Jet Li he is fantastic as a villain and the comedy was excellent. I agreed the ending could have been a lot more succinct, and the froggy story could have been placed somewhere earlier in the movie. Thank you for always being honest with your opinions :)

dreamspecialist0721

I like the ending. To me to is pretty clearly meant to be a send-off to the franchise. Sorry ya'll didn't like that part. Not that big of a deal, tbh lol

FranciscoGios

What I can remember about the ending from movie sources which I read long time ago was they did the scene for one last send off to the characters that and/or got popular over the time of the franchise. As for Rigg’s wife graveyard scene I believe the studio decided that Joe Pesci didn’t had a lot of scenes to play so they add him into that scene plus that rabbi wedding scene in the end.

Brandon

I usually skip this one when I rewatch the series. I watched for the reaction and actually had a pretty good time revisiting it. LW4 has great action set pieces and cinematography. IMO this movie is easily the weakest, though. It has real pacing problems. There's the prologue, then the opening action scene on the boat introduces the whole Triad plot. It seems like we're all set for a solid fourth entry. Then the movie spends nearly 30 minutes meandering around and setting up all of the subplots. So much so, that when they get back to the Triad plot and visit Uncle Benny's restaurant it's almost jarring. Like I said, the movie has great action, but they're always undercutting themselves with too much humour. The previous 3 entries had a better balance of humour and taking itself seriously. The car driving through the building was awesome. The cinematography in the final fight was great, with the beams of light shining through holes in the docks above. The film making on display is some of Donner's best stuff. There's a running theme with the subplots. Lorna is pregnant, but the movie gives us very little of her. I'm fine with the pregnancy, but it gives her very little to do compared to LW3. Rianne is also pregnant, but we mostly see that story line through Butters and his awkward relationship with Murtaugh. Murtaugh has extra income that people are suspicious of, then they drop that entire plot for nearly an hour before getting back to it. Then we find out where the money is coming from. Trish is actually a romance novelist making some serious money. But we never hear anything about that through her. Because she's barely even in the movie, just like Lorna and Rianne. That whole epilogue. It's like they wrote it because Trish, Lorna and Rianne are technically big parts of the plot while having very little screen time. It feels like an extended comedy sketch with the yelling old man and the jar of pee etc. By the time we get to "No! We're Family" and end on a freeze frame, it feels like I'm watching a different series of films entirely. LW3 felt like a great send off for the characters, especially Riggs who finally had a future to look forward to with Lorna. LW4 feels more like an extended goodbye.

Brandon

I humbly apologize for all the e-mails you got when I made repeated edits to fix spelling and grammar mistakes. I'd love to say it won't happen again... but I can't make that promise. 😭

JakeyShakeyBakeyBoy

Just gonna hint this may pop up in a certain future release 🤭😂

gfixler

Teen Girl Squad! I just got arrowed!

Dee

I'll be honest, this is my favorite Lethal Weapon movie and I barely remembered the ending. It never stuck with me. I agree with you guys, it really throws you off. I just think screening audiences are the worst. I don't know how many movies end terribly because studios listen to those viewers.

Dustin Duvall

If you liked Chris Rock in this, Down To Earth would be a good react

JH

You guys are right for the ending, but not exactly in your articulation. The ending, entire ending was based on trends at the time, which played up a “finale bow good ending” trope, especially on where the leads could all agree on, as well as the studio. Yup, it feels weird and wrong, but for good reason, It does two things: one, caps off a final curtain call for the entire franchise, leaving a door open for a sequel(not truly expected, just an option for one), and two, is a compromise between the film production team, and the studio. There is a lot of good and bad missteps you see throughout the film, the ending is just more blatant and odd, but simply put, that’s how big films in Hollywood at the time, would finish films, ESPECIALLY 20+ year old franchises that have become a staple of American Cinema and Culture. For me it was fine enough to end the series on, while making it possible for more story(films, tv show, etc.). However, you have to remember, when you’re watching these 90s to early 00s films, a lot of them are Hollywood’s attempts to hold on to the same audience from the 70s and 80s, while attracting new, younger audiences, growing up in the 90s and 00s, which is present in Jet Li and Chris Rock being casted. There’s a whole lot of American Entertainment Culture at the time, that is legitimately influencing the writing and overall production decisions, at this time. You wanna understand why they would possibly go that route for the ending, keep watching and remember back to watching films and TV shows that were the peak of popularity at time, that defined American Society, for good reason and bad.

Tanx

41:14 a "zip gun" is a homemade gun. usually it's a pipe or maybe even just a barrel off a broken gun. it's cobbled together with various random hardware pieces and household tools and it has a makeshift firing pin and trigger. they basically look like something someone crafted in Rust or something from a steampunk game. usually a one shot gun with no accuracy, designed to pull out and shot someone at really close range. The gun that kill Shinzo Abe was a zip gun that was quite different from what most people think of when they hear "zip gun" Also, 3d printed guns are also considered zip guns. but if you google zip gun you will see some methhead style engineering with some of these things.

Eric Wilson

Everyone on here seems like super moved by the frog story but I thought it was like comic relief to not get so serious during the grave scene. I mean the story itself isn't funny but his placement is just so odd every time I hear it I laugh. I thought that was done on purpose.

gfixler

Huh, none of the end bothered me at all, neither back when this came out, nor this time. I was surprised how in sync you both were about how much you didn't like it. I can agree it felt a bit different than the rest of the movie, but you were both so flabbergasted about it 😆 The Leo thing made sense to me, because that's him. He's awkward, he's always in the way, shows up at the least opportune moment, he's a pain in the neck, but he really loves them. Riggs was trying to have a moment, and he sort of ruined it, but Riggs is such a weirdo, it made sense to him as a sign from his wife that he had a new family now, and needed to go be with them. All the end after that was just the normal goofy stuff that's in all the other movies, but more so, because it was the last thing. It was like fan service to tie them all together as one big family. It was a bit awkward, but I still loved hanging out with them more, instead of just a freeze frame after the fight.

TexasNight

Sorry if this is not the place to post this but I have a suggestion for the Cinebinge player. A nice QOL addition would be to note the date that you guys originally posted your reactions for your entries.. You can get it on the Patreon page of course, but it would just be more convenient to see then on the player. Just a thought. Regardless, you guys are awesome and I am really enjoying going though your reactions.

romai

I just saw this post, never seen the movies, went and watched the first one... now I'm hooked. Finishing up movie 2 will be on my way back here shortly. :)

By Grapthar's Hammer, what a member!

The staredown between Mel Gibson and Jet Li at the restaurant was such a great scene. Jet Li managed to be super intense in that scene.

Raven Blackrose

Thought about it for a minute, was gonna disagree about the ending. Then thought for another minute. Yeah, that sucked. The franchise started, first scene, a burnt out drugged out pimped out kid commiting suicide. End it at the graveyard, instead of the hospital scene out of a mid 00's family comedy.

John

Hi, I'm currently unable to view the 'full reaction where you need your own copy' version on cinebingers (the 'you don't need your own copy' version works fine) - instead of playing the video it just says 'sign in to confirm you're not a bot'. Please consider providing youtube links to these versions in addition to cinebingers - I totally understand wanting to host these videos on your site but given that there have been several instances of issues with cinebingers we'd very much appreciate having youtube versions as backups whenever something goes wrong. Thanks!

Cinebinge

hi John. the YT link is already there. once you selected Sync with your copy on the main page, do you see a little Copy Link icon (or YT icon if youre on mobile) under each video? click on that to get the URL.

John

Thank you for the quick reply! I can indeed copy the link this way from the main page, thank you! Fwiw it looks like there's supposed to be a similar link overlaying the player for each video also (not on the main page, but the actual video page) but this link isn't clickable for me (it's obfuscated by the other player controls). It hadn't crossed my mind to go hunting for another instance of this link on the main page.

Happy Hanukkah

Little-known fact: the ending was written by Vin Diesel.

Dan Holmes

i see it as both, it's quirky childish and lame like leo, but briefly moving in that it shows he's an actual person with feelings and has never been treated as such throughout the franchise. it gave him a moment to not be the brunt of the joke (well that was the intention anyway lol). I like it, but i get why others dont :)

Shaka Racks

The ending worked when the movie came out. It was NICE to see a clear send off. I understand how it doesnt seem to age well but for those of us who grew up with the franchise this entire movie was AWESOME! And the ending felt REALLY good to see them all go out as a family. That ending may seem cheesy now but it was nice to end on a light note and we all left the theater happy.

Maniacalmouse

Great reaction as always! I actually completely forgot about the ending of this movie lol. I don’t hate it, but it definitely could have used some trimming. There is a good chance one of you has probably seen this, but you should check out Forbidden Kingdom. It’s a fun one starring both Jackie Chan and Jet Li.

Chris Kimmel

If you look it up it says Vin Diesel has nothing to do with lethal weapon 4

Gryff

FAMILY.

Happy Hanukkah

Well of course, but that's because once he heard reactions like George and Simone's, he scrubbed all records of his involvement. At the time, when he was told that the movie would be better without the tacked-on ending, he was quite adamant that: https://i.ibb.co/k2FPn5qZ/VD-LW4-proof.gif

Korpse

Jet Li was so fast making the film that the cameras had issues tracking his movements.....they had to literally ask him to slow down because he looked like a strobe light when watching what they shot 😂

Maria Forsström

George if you like Jet Li you guys should watch Romeo Must Die (2000).

jimmy2k4o .

I respect your take on the ending. Personally I liked it. I like Leo’s story and character development implies that Riggs and Roger might be nicer to him. Riggs looks pained when acknowledging that he’s terrible to Leo. Love the labour scene because of the sheer dark humor I get when I see that Riggs is getting a Jewish wedding. He even says to Leo “A Rabbi?” With a shocked look. The cheese at the end was to make clear that, here at the end of the lethal weapon story, everyone is happy and together. A great juxtaposition with Riggs comparing his mental health in LW1 to LW4 All the movies are the story of Riggs recovering from his wife’s death. LW 1 suicidal LW 2 able to talk about it with Trish and pursue a new relationship. LW3 meets a women and a serious relationship starts LW4 on the verge of being a family man, surrounded by friends.

RLYtoxic

I think they they hugely misread the graveside scene. Was little off putting hearing laughs during a pretty heartfelt moment. I think they came away from that scene thinking, Leo was comparing the loss of his frog, to the loss of Riggs wife.

Duh-jango

I loved your last video. It would be an honor.

CommanderBrownCoat

Think it's about time y'all watch Maverick, if nothing else for the Lethal Weapon easter egg! Though its a great movie on its own! The buff guy in the gym reminded me of the Swede in Heartbreak Ridge with Clint Eastwood too! The 'To Watch List' goes on and on!

Jay Perry

the graveyard scene makes perfect sense. You missed a line that explains it while you were complaining about what you didn't know.

Jay Perry

While you were barking, Riggs said to his wife that she chose a strange angel, but that he still got the message.

Jay Perry

I still love ya!

Forkbeard83

Lethal Weapons weirdly all had progressive messaging in them. LW 1 - Dolphins in tuna nets LW 2 - Anti-Apartheid LW 3 - Youth caught up in inner city gangs LW 4 - People smuggling and immigration If the threatened 5th one keeps it up, would some of the old fans call it "woke"?

Gwydify

You missed the point of the Froggy story. He was saying that Lorna wasn't better, or worse, than Vicky she was just different, and that was ok. Riggs says to Vicky right at the end that she picked a strange angel but he got the message.

Happy Hanukkah

🤦 I hope your blood pressure's OK, George. 😉

Duncan

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Cinebinge

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Duncan

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Jonathan Howard

Mel's best villain role to me is payback. Awesome movie.

Jason Pratt

I felt the froggy bit was off but to me that matched Leo’s vibe. Glad y’all watched it- I’m afraid if yall will cut your hair- it’s a quick way I use to see how far back into the archives I head on rewatches. 😁 I do think Maverick with Mel, Jodie Foster, James Garner, and Alfred Molina would be worth your watch.

Kevin Rogers

I really liked the ending. At that point the story of part 4 was done, and then they were putting a bow on the entire franchise.

Vwlss Nvwls

This one is so great. I really think it is my favorite after the first one, because it has so much heart, and does such a good job of giving our characters a close without a finality. And that frog speech from Leo gets me every time. I also absolutely love all the pictures from all the movies in the end credits. Yep, this one made me smile, laugh and cry. I love this one.

Vwlss Nvwls

I don't think you two understood the point of Leo's frog story. It was supposed to be like Vicky sent him to let Riggs know it was okay to move on. You also did not understand the ending. It was fan service for the people who had been watching these movies over and over for decades.

Zedarion

The ending of Lethal Weapon 4 feels different because the script underwent significant last-minute changes during production and also had many different writers working on the script. These changes were a result of issues like an incomplete script, the rehiring of Joe Pesci happened late in the process and required significant rewrites and another last-minute rewrite after Chris Rock got hired. You see the characters of Leo Getz and Lee Butters were not in the original scripts. Joe Pesci got rehired and paid $1 million for three weeks of work, forcing rewrites. Gibson (the main screen writer) was "three-fourths" through his newest draft when Chris Rock was hired, which caused yet another rewrite. Butters was originally written to be a homosexual detective. When they started filming the police station scene between Riggs, Murtaugh, Leo, and Butters, everyone felt the character did not work. He was changed to be Rianne's husband and father to her unborn child. The two only share one scene in the final film with no written dialogue, due to last minute changes made to his character.

Matthew Maxon

I think is was Jet Li's first American Movie

ExtraBigAssTaco

For anyone still wondering, a "zip gun" is slang for an Improvised Firearm. They're also called "pipe guns", which is one of the real life inspirations for the terminology in Fallout.

Perry Campbell

They are Canadian it’s their fault lol