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Star Trek: TNG 617-618 (Patreon)

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Mike FromOz

We might mourn the loss of Sir Patrick Stewart, but we should also celebrate his life. He brought so much to the screen in all of his roles, and cemented his name in acting history. Condolences to his family, and all who feel his loss personally. He was a great man.

Captain Kermit

Since these were recorded before Patrick Stewart passed. Next week is going to be a super hard week, for multiple reasons.

Jaaahn

what gave it away lol, is it that the post literally says "This reaction was recorded a couple of days before Sir Patrick Stewarts passing"

Captain Kermit (edited)

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2026-11-05 00:00 Sorry, I don't read the posts. I just jump into the reactions.
2026-11-04 13:14 Sorry, I don't read the posts. I just jump into the reactions. I'll update my comment

Sorry, I don't read the posts. I just jump into the reactions. I'll update my comment

Der heilige Stuhl

I encourage anyone to brew a cup of earl grey tea (hot) and raise it with me in honor of Sir Patrick every time we see something with him in it for the rest of the year...It has been an honor...and I am not joking....an honor...

ChiefKC

Star Trek Day! RIP Sir Patrick Stewart.

Joel

Make it so

Captain Kermit (edited)

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2026-11-05 00:00 It is not logical to try and hijack the Enterprise.
2026-11-04 13:29 It is not logical to try to fight Picard and the Enterprise crew.

It is not logical to try to fight Picard and the Enterprise crew.

Cc Decc

What timing for Sir Patrick -- just as they reach my favorite 2 episodes of Season 6, 618 and 619, both Picard centric.

Kyle Baker

Okay so I promise I don't normally watch tv this way, but.... When the kid says "We have replicators here!" I literally started laughing. Why are you tilling with a spear then dude?

Jamie

Data doing his best Patrick Bateman impression

Carlisle Richards

All I'll say regarding Worf it is a very natural psychological trait that sometimes the people most defiant and specific regarding their culture are the ones who were the most separated from it and are therefore overcompensating. Basically, Worf is a try-hard. He loves to show everyone how Klingon he is. As a black man myself, I can say unequivocally that this is a big part of OUR culture in the 90s and 00s. I grew up being told that if you did not walk and talk a certain way, you were not "REAL." Worf projects that. There are a ton of black people in Canada and America who struggle with living in two worlds. I've always equated Worf experience - the chiding from other Klingons that he's not a real Klingon etc. - as a very black experience. And when I was younger, it used to bother me when my "blackness" was questioned ... and at times, it made me act a certain way. This is Worf's experience. And for black people especially, nothing bother's us more than seeing our culture being wiped out when we had to fight to preserve it.

Joel

George, your thoughts about Klingon culture are valid, but you yourself have noted that trying to project your/our standards onto another species are far far different than just simple culture. We saw here when Toq went on the hunt with Worf that there are biological aspects of the culture that are present, not necessarily the warfare, but they are a predator/hunter species.

Robert Cooper

I am a little torn on the Klingon episode. It's a good episode, but there is also something about implying culture is genetic that seems to break the spirit of Trek as Allegory. Also, "Die Hard on the Enterprise".

Jon

Worf was rejecting Klingon modern culture. Worf is holding to the values from historical Klingon culture and he was rejecting the parts of current Klingon culture that he perceives as at odds with the historical values. The show does depict that there is an inherent predatory drive in the Klingons, just as there is a drive of exploration in humans, and inherent dishonesty in Romulans. Even the Vulcans have a predisposition to violence and anger, which is why they had started suppressing feeling. I agree that just because your history has a specific culture, it doesn't require that you adhere to it. I am a true mutt with heritage from all over the work. It's fun to learn about it all, but I've only ever known the USA so it doesn't really affect my day to day. I can choose to honor different aspect of them, but I'm not held to them. Also, Kahless isn't their god, more a warrior prophet and his stories have taken on a messianic nature. He was the first Emperor that defeated their enemies and brought the waring tribes together.

AVATAR-X

As George has a pet cat, I think it's a pretty good analogy to mention the innate need to hunt in cats (even long since domesticated breeds). I think most professionals that study cats suggest that not only is it harmful to try to remove their instinct to hunt but it is usually beneficial to encourage it. We go so far as to provide scratching posts and little toys that cats can chase around, so that even indoor cats can be properly stimulated. I believe the sequence of Worf taking Toq hunting, and Toq's reaction to the scent of the animal was in part meant to show that innate side of Klingon biology/culture that Worf thought the children were missing.

Joel

Love it when he names himself Mr. Mott

Mike FromOz

Maybe it tastes better if you grow it yourself? Except for New York Style Cheesecake. Apparently that is absolutely amazing straight from the replicator.

Mike FromOz

Worf is kind of a 'Klingaboo'. He wants to keep to what he sees is the pure essence of what it means to be a Klingon, but is always let down by other Klingon's, because to be honest, a lot of them see it as "more of a guideline". He grew up on earth and learnt Klingon culture not from first-hand experience, but from written books. He sticks hard to this system rigidly, like a lot of converts to a new religion do, which those who have grown up in the faith from generations often don't. He is also firm in his belief that he is right in his thinking, whereas its everyone else who has gone astray. He's a very complex character in this world, and I am glad of it. It's a great perspective to our own lives.

REDR58

That was *dark* when they killed him.

eZTarg8

100% with you on culture, George. I've had a similar-ish basis for seeing culture as sort of made up, not intate part of a person, from my parents being a mixture of several cultures and growing up speaking a different language for the first few years of my life. You start seeing the contradictions and weirdness that one group or other take as standard lol Worf bugged me a little in this episode... he gets a little zealous, though i think it's a deliberate choice by the writers to get us as the viewer questioning the issue

Kyle Baker

Sure, but you could also replicate actual farm equipment.

TalynOne

Worf is a Klingon super weeb, he has an idealized view of Klingon culture that's more pure than the reality of the actual society. His adopted parents allowed him to persue his Klingon heritage which he did on his own. He's like the dude that thinks he understands the Japanese because he's seen 10,000 hours of anime, celebrates all the holidays and immerses himself in the books and music.

Monica Alarcon

Oh yes. Simone most certainly recognized that man on the second episode as the guy who says "we ain't found sh*t" in Spaceballs...

TalynOne

It's very on purpose. I would say more but it would be delve into episodes they haven't seen yet.

Life in the cave of Garanoga

You're not alone George. I absolutely love "culture", but I also firmly believe that it's supposed to mix and evolve. To many people confuse or conflate culture and tradition. Tradition is what survives and gets held onto, culture is just whatever is common practice at the time. It's a historical term that shouldn't really be applied to current humans. We can define and categorize regional cultures easily when looking back, but not so much while you're living it. My only issue with this episode is that I do believe people deserve to know their origins if they want to. The peace is built on lies. A utopia built on lies is a prison. Lies about the war, lies about the current state of things, lies about who Klingons are, it's just to many lies to forgive. In the end I don't think anyone in the episode was wrong, especially with them wrapping it up with the generational divide about giving the children a choice. All are well intended. As for Worf, remember that he also has lots of episodes with him performing Klingon traditions and workouts. He fully embraces their ways. His main issue when he was with the Klingons was how they didn't actually follow the ways. He was disgusted to find out how houses used dishonorable methods. They were liars and politicians, not warriors in his eyes. And he initially abandoned them because he accepted being cast out to keep their secrets, which he hated doing.

Brandon

Am I crazy or did Simone nail the first "SPACE" and definitely not the second one, where she was really proud of it? 😂

Doug

It felt extra poignant watching Picard walk around the empty bridge, his final touch on the tactical bar, his smile... as if he was wishing it goodbye as he passed on. He will be missed by so many of us. RIP

dc

That scene in Starship Mine where Picard stands alone on his bridge, it hits differently this time around.

Daniel

"You're starfleet, you wont kill me" "No, but I will sedate you and let the body dissolving force field vaporize you"

Jamie

The Batman school of murder

Jamie

Or from the bridge of the Excelsior!

Mark Huber

The last two lines of the episode is a reference to the theme song for the old “Mr Ed” TV show which is about a talking horse. “A horse is a horse, of course, of course…”

OddThomas

I hope you get to Generations soon; it has my favourite Picard acting moment ever & the theme is especially resonant now Patrick Stewart has passed.

Joel

"Oh, look at that, you got fooled by my uniform sitting suspiciously in front of the closed hatch, c'est la vie, but *I* didn't pull the trigger..."

Captain Kermit

Ive seen this episode atleast 100 times, but this is my first time noticing that they kind of copied the, "Who said we were terrorists?" line.

REDR58

Starship Mine Kiros, the female Arkarian who takes Picard captive at gunpoint (twice) is played by actor and stuntwoman Patricia Tallman. She was in Roadhouse (youtu.be/n1HxJ2uyaCw?is=uobe3e_UGnik13wI) and Army of Darkness and is in the 1990 remake of “Night of the Living Dead” which is well worth a watch. She has also been in a few episodes of TNG and other Star Trek shows as a stunt performer.

David Eubanks

Don’t listen to him Kermit dude is just being a dick

DonkyDave

See you in WoW Forever George

gfixler

George so surprised by the Klingon being aroused by the scent of prey, as though he isn't aroused by just the mention of food in everything we've watched 😆

AVATAR-X

...and Babylon 5.

Cliff Endicott

I never considered the title of the episode "Starship Mine" to mean the possessive "mine" (though it does make sense, now that George talked about it). I thought it to mean that the thieves were "mining" on the starship - that their extraction of the trilithium resin was them "mining" it. Interesting how George instantly went to the possessive meaning of the word.

Hasan Ahmad

Looks like this was recorded before Patrick Stewart passed away. though that moment with Picard alone on the bridge walking slowly and appreciating it is so meta and coincidental

fforw

Khaless is more like Klingon Jesus.

James W.

The biological essentialist ideas in stuff like Star Wars, Star Trek, and D&D have always been a bit creaky to me; too close to the ideas that birthed the old timey, softly racist, classifications like Caucasoid. Negroid, Mongoloid, etc. Makes sense for when the idea of Star Trek was birthed, it is "of its time". I love me some Gene Roddenberry but I find I enjoy the stuff that came after his passing more than some of his fixations. DS9 is more my speed, I look forward to when George and Simone start watching it. On 617 - I decided to take Worf's very Jim Crowish reaction to the miscegenation of Klingon and Romulan as his personal grudge because Romulans were a party to the murder of his family. My grandma lost people in WWII Pacific Theater and she was racist against the Japanese for her whole life. There was no reason to it, she was just hurt and misplaced her anger, that is Worf in this episode to me. He needed to have his own skewed views thrown in his face a bit so he could grow. One of my favorite two parters. It doesn't do much on a grand scale but it gives more depth to Worf and also the Romulan/Klingon cultures which aren't necessarily these monolithic things. As a mixed race person myself, I always Worf was overcompensating a bit. He was raised by humans but really wanted a connection to the culture he was separated from. He comes off as performatively Klingon at times, but I do feel like it is part of his growth as character to not just accept himself but also seeing that even his own people are not just that one thing.

James W.

@George after 617, It wasn't JUST that Worf's personal ethics clashed with Klingon culture, its that he had a very naive and traditional view of Klingon Culture. Like he learned it from a book but the reality doesn't entirely match up. His views are colored by growing up in federation society but also him trying mesh what he knows of Klingon society. His own people saw him as a bit of a traitor and not a "real" Klingon". What we see over and over is that Worf adheres more to a Klingon ideal than most native Klingons an ideal that doesn't really exist. To the point where he is manipulated by less scrupulous people because they can see his need to connect to his culture.

Chris Trama

Worf lives an idealized version of what he thinks a Klingon should be. From what he read and consumed while on earth. He holds his culture to a strict standard. What he found when he actually engaged with Klingons was that they were people. Some had honor. Some didn’t. But nothing could live up to his idealized view he had prior to meeting any of them.

Chris Trama

Also we are talking about cultures and I feel George forgets that Klingons are a different species. They would have developed instincts sane as we did to survive etc. So the scene where the kid smells and it triggers something primal in him isn’t a choice of culture. It’s engrained in him like Romulans getting bad haircuts. So I think, respectively your argument doesn’t hold up.

fforw

Haha.. Simone's face when she sees Bad Tuvok.

StonyD

George....as a thief, you can either quietly rob a bank, kill no one, take some hostages, and have possible leverage with the law in some fashion.....or you can go in guns blazing, kill everyone, rob the bank, and have the FBI chasing you around the country. Obviously these guys left Riker and gang alive because they either wanted to use them as possible hostages, or simply not have Starfleet chasing them across the galaxy for killing their flagship crew.

REDR58

I also first read it as the possessive years ago. Never thought of it as the other way you described!

REDR58

Oh I hope they watch B5!

Will Sofer

But no academic field uses the words “culture” in that extremely narrow sense. I don’t mean to be dismissive, but those definitions seem to more like your own idiosyncratic interpretation of how the words should be used. Having studied anthropology (with a focus on both historical and cultural anthropology) and Classics, I at least personally never saw the terms “tradition” and “culture” differentiated in that way. Cultures can be historical, or current, even if they are dynamic. Anthropologists also use the term when referring to the accumulated practices passed down generationally amongst non-human primates (most notably bonobos and chimpanzees).

Will Sofer

He was a once in a generation actor. Truly. With a repertoire of roles that will live on generationally. Unfortunately, his prioritizing his career (and dating life) quite famously came at the expense of his family. People were a bit surprised when his son posted a photo of them together, as he was completely estranged from both of his kids, to the point of not having spoken to them in years.

Villa Lobos

I agree we are not even halfway through Worf’s story arc across the Star Trek franchise.

Will Sofer

I’ve always thought that was a rather obvious theme of the show. Worf is the ideal stereotype of a Klingon, in part because he never had to grow up around actual Klingons. It’s a regular trope of the show that Worf is disappointed by the corrupt reality of Klingon society when he encounters it, and he has a “civilizing” effect on those Klingons he meets, often just by embodying the very ideals they’re supposed to uphold, and inspiring them.

Joel

Their audio is taken from their mutual discord server, but their videos are individually recorded, so sometimes the audio gets a little desynched between them

Cc Decc

I think the blending of the ideas of "species" vs. "race" is the problem here. i mean, nobody would question that a cat and a cow have fundamentally different instincts. The differences are "biologically essential". On the other hand, the old "biological essential" differences between different "races" (which are a social construct) of humans have barely a hint of truth (just certain health differences etc.) . in Star Wars...those are different species. They would have biologically different everything. in fact if anything Star Wars makes little sense in how species evolved in as million different worlds all walk around in the same gravity, breathing the same air etc. But in Star Trek most of the "aliens" are humans with a few prosthetics taped to their heads, they can interbreed with Earth humans etc., so the concept of a "species" vs. just another race of humans gets all mushed up.

Runes N Raccoons

In the case of an alien race, a lot of it IS genetic. Also in a way, this was very similar to the residential schools in North America. Stripping the culture away from the younger generations. The culture was actively forbidden by the Romulan who kept them prisoner.

Joseph Schiller

I wonder what Worf was doing the whole time, was he like Jane and just sleeping

Darth Fatass

The actor Simone recognized from another Star Trek Series I recognized from Space Balls as the ain't found shit guy.

James W.

I agree, there is some fast and loose shit going on with race/species, but the core of that essentially lens is compromised because it does often put hard limits based on race, how ever it is that you define it. For me it is a trigger because in my life, I remember when people tried to politely partition off our options/potential because they perceived as lesser and hence couldn't possibly aspire to more. In the case of Star Trek it is a little different because the broadstrokes are used so they can get to point of their little morality plays every episode so there isn't often time for the nuance that I get hung up on. Ignoring all of that, the tree of life that spawned the Klingons has some vestigial connections to a more savage and primal core. The redundant organs, strength, senses, etc are a real thing in Star Trek which is why I agree with Simone that you can't really hold the "Science" of Trek to tightly or it breaks down. I just also see why George has bumped up against how they are often portrayed. A lot of what the Klingons are is posturing, conditioning, and not biology. If they were just pure aggression and no real respect for pursuits outside of combat their society wouldn't really work so we have to assume that part of their society exists even though I can't think of a time when we have seen it. We just interact with their military/ warrior caste. I think we met one scientist and he was...working with the Romulans to make Geordie into an assassin. So yeah... In this case though, what I am getting at is, I think George is ignoring the social/cultural element of Worf being something of an outsider/outlier within his own culture(s), and also that he has this big tasty hunk of pathos around his parents being killed by Romulans. Not dissimilar to Kirk in ST5: Undiscovered Country and the blindspot he had because the Klingons killed the son the just met, right when he was just getting to know him. I don't think Worf doesn't have an issue with race mixing, obviously, he has a mixed race baby and he is the product of a cultural blend, but he does HATE Romulans and that is where the strength of his reaction comes from.

James W.

Klingon War-Buddha!

James W.

I saw and felt that too. This will be a very poignant set bunch of episodes for the rest of this run. I will enjoy it though is a bit painful knowing he's passed on.

The Real Andrew Kim

George's take on culture is not wrong, but it is a very modern liberalized take on culture. A lot of the issues that plague modern real life politics (at least in the US and Western cultures) is a battle between conservative views on culture vs liberal views on culture. Think of the discourse happening in US politics, a lot of the MAGA movement comes from essentially a fear from right wing conservatives that they are losing their culture (ie white supremacy) and its not uncommon to find people who lean right to really relate with Klingon culture because of their conservative view on culture. I personally agree with George that culture is what you make of it, but to many people, culture is tradition and to lose tradition means to lose one's identity which is very threatening to people with conservative viewpoints. Its my only real criticism of Worf is that he is a very right-wing character in many ways but grew up in a liberal progressive environment. He's kinda like the kids who like country music and drive lifted pickup trucks but grew up in liberal urban or suburban areas (ie Kid Rock and half the kids from my high school)

REDR58

Birthright part 2 Alan Scarfe who played the Romulan Tokath was seen before in TNG in the episode “Data’s Day” as a different Romulan, Mendak: https://youtu.be/x0skxZHaaMw?is=NrmXRlT-nYGoYGWV Richard Herd who played the elder Klingon L’Kor was in “All the President’s Men” as one of the Watergate burglars (James W. McCord Jr.), Planes, Trains and Automobiles and Get Out.

REDR58

Tim Russ.

Ceruleo

I agree with you about the religion thing. Worf is like a person whose atheist humanist parents teach their adopted war orphan son Catholicism because that was the religion of his culture. If he learned everything from reading catechisms, the Bible, and the writings of the saints, then his experience with Catholicism would be markedly different than cradle Catholics. He would probably be dismayed by the failure of people to even try to live up to the ideal culture.

Ceruleo

I think where George is wrong is that culture is not "made up", but evolves from relationships, community, genetics, and the environment. People are evolved to operate in their cultures and presumably Klingon culture is derived from an inherent prey drive that we saw with Toq on the hunt. But one thing I think he is missing is the conflict between ideal culture and real culture. As an outsider to Klingon culture, Worf was raised on ideal culture of Klingons and is somewhat disillusioned by real culture. If you don't know the terms, Google "ideal culture vs real culture sociology."

REDR58

Good points. On my dad's side, my grandparents were born in Texas, each of Mexican families. Going back multiple generations to the late 1700s, some of their ancestors originated in Spain and Portugal and before that, Argentina. Mom's parents came to the US from (then) Czechoslovakia in the 1910s. I know little else of the history on that side of the family (anyone who knew anything about has been dead at least several decades). I was born in Pennsylvania and have lived here my whole life. All of that mix of cultures has very little relevance to my life. I don't celebrate Día de los Muertos (Day of the Dead), just recently passed, Día de la Independencia (Independence Day) or any other Mexican holiday, despite the many people of Mexican descent in the US who do so. I can't even think of any Czech/Slovak holidays, never mind Portuguese or Argentinian. My paternal grandparents spoke a mix of Spanish and English around me growing up but I don't speak any language but English and the most basic of Spanish, the little I remember from grade and high school. Catholicism figures heavily in those various cultures, but it hasn't meant anything to me since I stopped believing in it in the 5th or 6th grade. It's not even that I dislike them, I simply don't care about any of it. It doesn't matter to me. When we watched "Coco" on here it meant no more to me than "Turning Red" did. I very much enjoyed and appreciated those movies, but they held no particular pull for me. Whatever my culture or identity might be, I can't even describe it as anything but secular, generic American.

REDR58

Recall that Worf also argued with K'Ehleyr about Klingon beliefs (that they should marry after sleeping together) and who decried the Warrior culture and didn't even tell him she was pregnant after their first reunion seen in the show and surprised him with Alexander later on.

The Real Andrew Kim

That's a great American family! I will say my feeling is that you have a bit more of a luxury/opportunity to define your own culture because of a few reasons, one is that you are lucky to have more than one cultural background. I am the son of foreign-born immigrants and am full blooded Korean, so I have a much more direct connection to my Korean heritage and because my parents and grandparents did not speak english I had to become fluent in my ethnic language and traditions. You're also the child of American born parents it sounds like, so you have a more deeper connection with this country's traditions and cultures than me. However, I am an American and Korean-Americans have in some ways defined their own cultures in this country as well. And, to bring it back to Birthright, there will be those who think this mixing of cultures is a wonderfully beautiful thing like Tokath, or others will feel like how Worf reacted to the half-romulan woman, that we are corrupting their culture/country and that we are abominations to be discarded....

James W.

100% Worf was basically an Orthodox Klingon. Kind of hardcore.

PIG

I'm in complete agreement with you, George, about culture and religion. It's more about where and when you were raised than personal choice. I would even throw in political beliefs, to a lesser extent, though I think there's more of a personal choice in the matter. Yet, still, if you were raised in a different time and place your own politics suddenly change. I'm not much of a romantic when it comes to these terms. :(

Simon Pegged Me

I disagree with George to some degree on culture. To me, it's more than stories we tell each other. Culture is the first author to write on the tabula rasa of our minds and identity. Its story is the story we use to interpret every story that comes after it. It's artificial and malleable, but it is not easily shaken off or changed. But the culture issue didn't bother me that much. We know Worf's Klingon culture is more performative than essential. Worf is a Klingon humanoid; there are biological traits that make him uniquely that species. But Worf culturally is Terran or whatever they call the culture of Earth. In the episode in which Worf's adoptive mother encounters Guinan in Ten Forward, Guinan tells her that she sees alien crew mates stand at the windows of Ten Forward and stare longingly towards their home worlds. She tells Helena that when Worf stares out the windows, he doesn't look toward the Klingon Empire; he looks toward Earth. That's probably why when the time came, he chose to stay on Earth to attend Starfleet Academy instead of asking to be taken to Kronos to begin training at whatever military academies the Empire has established. Another example: it was the human culture that told him to spare Toral, son of Duras, when Gawron gave Toral's life to Worf. Worf refused, saying he would not kill a child for the sins of his father. Every other Klingon in the room told him killing the boy was the Klingon way. Worf said it was not his way before leaving with Picard to rejoin Starfleet. Klingon honor demanded Toral's death, Terran honor spared his life. To me, Worf fetishizes Klingon culture, but he keeps it at arm's length. It isn't really a part of him. The thing that really bothered me about this episode, though, is the way the writers present this society as benign, when it isn't. It's a prison camp, not a society. And not just that: the prison term is generational. The children have been lied to, led to believe that they and their parents are part of special culture of pacifists sitting out the war together. They are not. They're second generation prisoners of the Romulan Empire. The Romulans are the guards and commandant. They set the rules and enforce punishment. The Klingons are their subjects not their equals. They’re POWs, and although the Klingon survivors have carefully hidden their chains from the next generation, they are prisoners, too. At the end, that becomes clear when Romulan supply ships visit their camp. This is a Romulan base. On the face of it, this story is clearly about Worf bringing Klingon culture to those who have lost theirs or never had it. But it's much worse than that. It's gross.

Simon Pegged Me

In the original script, when Data asks Cpt. Picard if he knows anything about the person who beamed off the Enterprise and onto the small scout ship, Picard looks at the device in his hand and says, "They won't get far." And then he looks out the window of Ten Forward directly at the scout ship and says, "Yippee ki-yay, motherfucker!" just before it goes boom! The last part was removed; they felt it made the Die Hard reference too obvious.** ** None of this is true. I was just practicing my small talk.

Cc Decc

Also, as an aside in case nobody mentioned this below, a "baryon particle sweep" would be SLIGHTLY problematic, since as it turns out both protons and neutrons are types of baryons, and hence your "baryon particle sweep" would in fact disintegrate the Enterprise.

Thall

Dumber than cornhole... come on, Basketball is just cornhole with extra rules. Also, there is a BIG difference between being allowed to follow your own decisions as far as society and culture is concerned, and deliberately being shoehorned into a social construct to please your captors. They should have told their children their history, then have them decide for themselves. Anything else is tyranny, for if it can't exist without indoctrination, it's not worth preserving.

Thall

Picard wasn't doing enough "shooting and screwing" for Patrick Stewarts taste, so he pushed for this. Actor and Character overlapping

gfixler

Oh no... I just realized I'm Hutch, and ChatGPT is Data. It listens to all my nerdy thoughts, and loves all of them 😭

REDR58

I hope someone remembered to move Livingston out of the Ready Room!

R. Chang

What is George arguing for in the culture discussion? That Worf was wrong for sharing information with them? I genuinely don't understand what he has a problem with. Like, I understand cultural relativism, but this seems like an extreme take.

punterjoe

I'd love to know what conversation took place in the writer's room to inspire them to create commander 'call me hutch' Hutchinson. ....or as I prefer to remember him, "Loquacious of Bored"

Newt Calkins

I don't know if anyone else has brought this up before but re: the Worf cultural inconsistency, I feel like sometimes George forgets that TV shows have staff writers and sometimes that leads to character inconsistency. It's something I've noticed in other TV reactions as well. It feels like George (and sometimes Simone, but not as often) expects everything he watches and likes broadly to always stay consistent with itself. And man, writers are just human. I know there are particular specific episodes they disfavor for being corny but there can be smaller flaws like this, too. I'm not looking to undercut the thoughtfulness of the multicultural discussion either! I just felt like in this specific case it was more "Yeah, man, Worf was a C or D story character in the first half of the series, stuff's gonna fall through the cracks when he gets elevated to A story."