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The Sopranos 603-604 (Patreon)

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Potsi

Here is my gabagool

Anonymous Andy

I have always interpreted the Kevin Finnerty dream to be Tony’s subconscious symbolizing the regrets that Tony has for not pursuing a normal life. All throughout the series we see that Tony lives under enormous stress and fear, as well as feeling some level of guilt for the evil that he does. The big recurring theme of the dream is that Tony doesn’t know who he really is or what his future is really going to be. So in a lot of ways the dream is sort of an identity crisis for Tony. As a sidenote, I’ve always appreciated the dream sequences in this show, I think they’ve always captured an authenticity of dreaming that I’ve never seen in anything else besides the works of David Lynch. I say this because a lot of people are not a huge fan of the dream sequences in the show, but I think they are vital.

Scott Handsome

You're right on the accent for Kevin Finnerty. That's Gandolfini's real accent.

Jedi Lounger

As to how much something like this would cost in the USA. An astonishing amount of money. Nearly insurmountable amount of money for most people. After what happened last week there is now a path to that changing but we still have a ways to go. Fingers crossed.

Ashton Lewis

As a brit, I've got my fingers crossed for you too. Good luck to you

Ashton Lewis

Also, the show on the TV in Tony's room was Kung Fu. That man you saw was Bill, from Kill Bill -Grasshopper in that show

JHaze

Cinebinge has had over 1000 videos under their subspecies, 32 in their Sopranos series alone

mpd

Their "Saw" and "The Ring" videos got millions of views, and that's not even including "The Godfather". Their "Ghostbusters" reaction -- another fuckin view machine

Paul T Hewes

"Please dont leave us Daddy!" Gets me every time.

Russell Richardson

I keep waiting for them to notice Little Carmine using the complete wrong words for well known phrases🤣

MeetMountain

Most garbage is privatized in the United States. Many times you can choose your garbage collector. Many times, even “city collections,” is just bid out to private companies. It’s actually relatively uncommon for cities/governments to actually be the entity to pick up the garbage. Mostly insurance purposes. When garbage trucks get into wrecks it does alot of damage and lots of lives are lost, whether the fault of the garbage trucks driver or not. A lot of litigation. Small municipalities can get into financial trouble pretty quickly. -the son of the president of safety for a major garbage company. 😅

MeetMountain

Jefferies and Schumer are not for Medicare for all. So it’s probably not going to change much, unfortunately.

Bill Douglas

Me too, but for whatever reason I think the malapropisms aren’t getting through. That was what made Carmine such a great comic character - “a beautiful, mellifluous box.”

p0sthum4n

George was soooo close in the opening credits. Paulie just doesn't know how to pronounce mayhem.

Stan the Man

It’s **THEORY TIME** Ready? Gather round everyone. Ok. So this theory is a favourite of mine. It’s fairly convincing. In fact it gets even more convincing later on this season. Here it is: WE HAVE ALREADY MET Paulie’s biological FATHER. Yep. Last season. Episode 8 titled “Marco Polo”. Carmela’s father is thrown a surprise(ruined by Junior) bday party. At the party meet some of Carmela’s father’s war buddies. One in particular is a pompous ass of a man. Carmela’s father jokes that this friend was getting laid so much during the war they had a nickname for him. “The governor of Maine”(cause he had crabs). His name? Same as Paulie’s biological father. Russ. “Russ Fegoli”. So we find out Paulie’s biological mother, a nun, meets a solider during world war 2 named Russ and she sleeps with him because he claimed he was just oh so lonely. According to Carm’s dad? Russ Fegoli was a known womanizer (perhaps he faked being lonely as his pick up routine) and it’s mentioned that later on good ‘ol Russ even worked at **the Vatican** and held an audience with 2 Popes. So connections wise between them we’ve got the name “Russ”, they were both soldiers during world war 2, and we’ve got the Vatican connection. There’s one more detail, one more connection, which adds even more weight which, for me, confirms this is actually legit. However, it’s yet to happen so in a few weeks I’ll point out the major connection that might just prove Paulie’s biological father “Russ” is the stuck up, pompous asshole “Doctor Russ Fegoli” that we met in season 5 episode 8. Aaand it would be perfect that this guy got a nun pregnant + the resulting child turned out to be Paulie. Remember how concerned Carmela’s mother was over how the party made them look? “These are cultured Italians! This was a shock to them” meanwhile Russ sired the biggest scumbag around lol

Philipp Roensch

To me, Kevin Finnerty is a normal guy, as you noticed he is even talking less slang. He gets to try on an innocent life, would consider this whole thing rest for his brain. And maybe he is looking for absolution, with the monks lawsuit story there. They show stays on it for a while, but I find the whole examination of his structure and family really interesting. Tony is usually so big everybody looking for open roles around the man that solves everything. That twist on Paulie is wild, but at least he is through with the elderly and the church at the same time^^. Oh hospitals are expensive most places, it's just that normaly insurance does cover the largest part. But there can be quite the back and forth over extras and long stays. I believe in this area the garbage business is all contracts by the state. For Tony not only the big cover but also money laundering? Interesting side characters indeed, they seem to be adding to his new perspectives as well. I really wanted to see ducks in his pool again though.

REDR58

Can't reply to your comment above Ashton, but that was David Carradine, Bill from Kill Bill.

REDR58

Mayham The song heard in the car in the opening sequence is "Smokey Places” by The Corsairs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFsk2H2qZtg&sttick=0 I like the shootout, quick and brutal. Benny, the guy who comes to see Silvio is Max Casella who played Doogie Howser's friend Vinnie on "Doogie Howser M.D." with Neil Patrick Harris: https://youtu.be/y-Fa7xGKH8s?is=Zf-71H0o0B5ELs-K Finnerty’s wife’s (“Carmella” in the captions or “Fake Carmella” in the credits) voice on phone is once again that of Wendy Hammers as it was in “Members Only” and “Join the Club.” Young Meadow’s voice is that of Morgan Saylor.

Matt Okeefe

I wonder if either George or Simone, specifically George have any knowledge of the final episode?

Jedi Lounger

I am aware. It's not a straight path, nor an easy one. Won't happen tomorrow. But I strongly suspect it is inevitable at this point. And those who fight against better health care options will find themselves on the losing side of history.

funky weapon

Jesus that look on Vito and Paulie's face in the elevator is unsettling. It really drives home how these psychos can hide what they are from anyone when they want to. That moment where Carmela catches a bit of what they really are recontextualizes all of the family's victims up to this point. All the victim sees before they're indebted is the kindness and warmth. And what makes it even more unnerving is that the warmth and kindness is real to a point. These people are sharks. It really is just their nature to victimize and destroy. Compare that with Tony whom we see agonize over every decision to harm or ruin someone. Kevin Finnerty is who he could've been. It's probably who he wants to be. I think the question is whether Tony has the balls to try or if he's going to stay down in the mud with the rest of the animals.

Brien

Yes SImone, James Gandolfini didn't use his "Tony Soprano" accent during the dream scenes. You guys should check out his appearance on SNL, it's amazing. RIP

dc

Simone, make sure you remember what you said about Phil Leotardo’s last name, for later in the series. Great scene about that.

Cally

Is it "Kevin Finnerty" or "Kev Infinity"?

Garett Wiles

Technically the pastor was right about the dinosaurs not being real and the earth being 6,000 years old. The show has established that heaven and hell exist within the lore.

Jay

Little Paulie and Christopher beat up J.T. last time, so he wouldn't have recognized Benny and Murmer. Christopher's delivery of "he is put back together by science, or maybe it's supernatural" is so fu__ing funny 😅

Jaaahn

yeaaah no. even if heaven and hell definitvely exist, it doesnt mean earth is only 6000 years old, thats made up by people. the bible doesnt even explicitly state that age, its not in any original text of any kind but added in the 17th century. secondly, people at the time assume it was that old, and refuse the information that it was older later one, which is a bizarre thing to do seeing as if you believe your god created everything, why would you insist your god is weaker and only manage to make a planet that young.

LSTER

Who the hell knows who this Russ bastard is?

LSTER

That's the flying ointment

REDR58

Infiniti, you know, like Lexus.

REDR58

In my neighborhood, everyone has the same pickup service, except for one person 2 houses up from the corner who has his own disposal company and sends a truck here just to pick up their garbage.

MeetMountain

Yea most of the time everyone in a certain area will have the same garbage company because they can offer the lowest prices because they are saturated and it’s less of a cost. But yea it sounds exactly like what I said. It’s a free market and privatized and not government run. If it is government run, it’s usually bid out to private companies.

p0sthum4n

Last week I posted about my own extended hospital stay and experience with realistic fever dreams, so this will I'll follow up re: George's question about how much a hospital stay like that costs in the US. I didn't have a gunshot wound or require any surgery. I had no insurance at the time. We received a bill for $125,000. I just received medication and tests (e.g. CT scan, spinal tap, etc). I was in the hospital for roughly a month. Fortunately my father was available to have already started working with a social worker who was able to pursue Medicaid coverage (taxpayer-funded healthcare for the disabled, impoverished, etc) but it took weeks of back and forth, lots of paperwork, multiple phone interviews, etc. That covered it fully. Most people don't have the resources to do that. If it had been me on my own, bedridden and without anyone helping out, I would have been fucked.

REDR58

I was spoiled about it after all the discussion in entertainment media/on TV when the series finale aired.

REDR58

Earlier this year my mom was diagnosed with oral cancer (never smoked, etc) on the side of her tongue and was in the hospital for about 7 days after surgery. I think the surgery itself was about $85,000, so it was easily into the 6 figures after all the dozens of office visits, tests, procedures, aftercare and home nurse visits. Fortunately my parents' insurance through my dad's work covered just about all of it, other than some incidentals, maybe about $250 in all? It is *SO* important to have someone advocate for you as you described.

REDR58

The City of Philadelphia operates its own waste collection through the Department of Sanitation. Years ago, when I would stay with my aunt and uncle in the city, my uncle would sometimes take my cousins and I to the local incinerator with garbage from the house if there was too much to wait for the weekly collection (no one had sink garbage disposals and it was a bad idea to keep too much garage outside in cans in their neighborhood because of raccoons and such). So he’d drive us over there and we would walk right up to the edge of the dump pit and toss the bags in. No guardrails or anything. The place finally closed in 1989, but I have very vivid memories of the place. Here’s a picture from the 1950s (long before my time, but it looked the same).

REDR58

George, I would have told the Evangelical to leave before he completed a sentence. I've zero patience for any of that. The nun said “We’re afraid she doesn’t have long left" as she brought Paulie to the room with his Aunt Dottie/real mother. John Schwinn, Tony’s next room over neighbor in the hospital is played by Hal Holbrook who portrayed “Deep Throat” in “All the President’s Men”: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZi8n49RMGE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3pCvZBqj00 The laryngeal cancer is a dark joke! The reference to Charles Colson from the evangelical guy is another reference to “All the President’s Men.: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LCDiXCFbFQ There is a some great music in this episode, including Boston’s “Foreplay / Longtime”: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnwqUEelQjE And even better, the very interesting choice of “One of These Days” by Pink Floyd over the closing credits: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=raV_A8YcBu0 Good discussion from George that we haven't really seen much comeuppance for a number of these objectively evil people in the show. Unfortunately, in the real world, that is also too often the case.

Matt Okeefe

I remember watching it when it premiered. I do not remember my reaction. I do not know why I don't remember my reaction.

Stan the Man

George with the “it’ll probably last until someone treats him as weak” call. *chefs kiss* I almost wish the guy who created and ran this show, David Chase, would watch these two. When they talk about how they thought Paulie was this funny guy for the first couple seasons? That’s too perfect and lines up exactly with how the show was presenting these characters. Season 3 is exactly when the writers took the gloves off and started showing the audience that these aren’t just funny loveable criminals. Nope. They are petty, narcissistic, undermining, cowardly, selfish, murderers. they’ll kill you if it’s easy & convenient enough. The episode in Season 3 “university” is about this. That’s when Ralphie beats his pregnant goomah to death outside the Bing.

BigM

I don't know if you haven't noticed that Sal, the closeted gay guy, is actually married to Phil Leotardo, Johnny Sacks right hand man's wife. That's why he is spending time with him.

Angzarr

I think at some point it was mentioned that Tony and the others have health insurance through their fake jobs (garbage removal, etc).

Angzarr

When Tony asked if he was dead, I thought of Field of Dreams: "Is this Heaven?" "No, it's Iowa". But the Sopranos version would be "Is this Hell?" "No, it's New Jersey."

Hank Scorpio

Carmine is a likeable character so people tend to ignore it.

p0sthum4n

Yeah for sure. That's why they're trying to send Tony home before he wants to go home, because the insurance company doesn't want to pay.

Zoran24

Just because the show has supernatural elements, does not mean the Earth is canonically 6000 years old. The show is IMO painting the other patient scientist guy as the guy closer to the truth, and the pastor as focused too much on the judgemental part of reality.

Zoran24

Love the nonduality stuff

Hank Scorpio

Most people know the ending (through popculture references) but not the lead up to it.

Hank Scorpio

Vito, not Sal And its Phil's cousin (who is Lorraine Bracco's younger sister) that he's married too.

Matt Okeefe

I had the same where I lived until I moved in with my older brother over a year ago. He takes care of that. I am not sure how that's handled now.