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The Silence of The Lambs - Patreon Version (Patreon)

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Jim Finley

I recommend both Manhunter (1986) and Red Dragon (2002) - they cover the same story, but with different casts, both excellent, and excellent filmmaking in general. Lecter is already in prison at the beginning of that story too. In Manhunter, Lecter is played by a much younger Brian Cox - almost 40 years before Succession - and William Petersen plays Will Graham, the FBI agent who caught him. The cast also includes Joan Allen, Stephen Lang, Tom Noonan, and Dennis Farina. In Red Dragon, Anthony Hopkins plays Lecter and Edward Norton plays Graham, and other parts are played by Ralph Fiennes, Harvey Keitel, Emily Watson, Mary-Lopuise Parker, and Philip Seymour Hoffman. The TV series Hannibal with Mads Mikkelsen is great too, although it is dark, dark, dark - makes Dexter look light. Hell, watch'em all. You won't regret it.

Dioskur

I've watched this movie a thousand times, but you discussing the "whats it about / whos the bad guy" thing, I came up with a new opinion. I think it would be best discribed as this movie not having real antagonists but obstacles or tasks for Starling. She is the good guy, obviously. And now have a look at every other named character, from her perspective. Each of them is intimidating in one way or another, some more some less, but still. Crawford is her boss. She needs him but she is obviously hugely influencial and she is at his mercy. Lets say he makes a move on her (sometimes hinted at the possibility) and she rejects, he could ruin her career. Lector is obviously intimidating because his mind is at the same time powerfull (he definately is a genious level intellect) and mercylessly manipulative. She needs Shildon, at least at the start, because he can make her task impossible to fullfill and she is desperate to do well. The policemen she meets and the other male cadets are all at least one feet bigger and therefor threatening on a purely biological level. And Bill has the upper hand during the confrontation and she knows it, only knowing the girl will die if she leaves makes her stay there against all odds. So I'd say don't view the other people in terms of good or bad, but in terms of challenges for her. She masters them all: Crawford says she did great, Lector sees her as valuable enough to not be a snack and to help her climb the ladder, Bill dies and by graduating with great scores she wins a top spot in a male dominated agency. A little bit like the labors of Hercules type of story.

djKENTO

HANNIBAL AND RED DRAGON WHEN!? Please Please PLEASE consider them for this year.

Brad Lowry

Hey Guys, I am late to this party too, but I presume I am not the only member to be retracing some of your older movie reactions. This particular reaction confirms something I have believed since 1991. Of course, I could be wrong and some of you reading this can help confirm or deny my belief here. However, your, Simone and George's, reaction does tend to confirm my belief. That is, that the scene where the fake flower delivery guy rings a doorbell and then simultaneously the bell rings in the bowels of Jame Gumb's sub-basement... and then only later do we find out that the flower delivery police raid in Illinois was a failure and the doorbell was instead being rung by Agent Starling in Ohio. In 1991 that was one of the most shocking moments in a movie theater I've even experienced. That scene was so ground-breaking at the time, both for story and cinematically that I think it was original to Silence of the Lambs. (Someone surely will know whether it was a scene in the original book or from the screen-writer and/or Jonathan Demme himself or perhaps some other film/book moment I am unaware of...?) My belief is that it has been so shamelessly copied by every crappy and not-so-crappy TV Cop Drama ever since that because of that that you two predicted it well before the reveal. In 1991, to my memory, it was one of the most shocking cinematic moments that I had ever seen. The film definitely holds up regardless! Regards

Angela D. Mitchell

Great reaction -- such a fantastic movie. Demme deliberately chose to frame many (if not most) dialogues from a camera (or near-direct camera) POV to engage and unsettle the audience. And it definitely worked. Opening with the training run by Ellie was Jodie Foster's idea (the script originally had her taking down a bust or something). I also love how Demme constantly shows Ellie as being smaller than the men around her, and that they surround her often in a kind of menacing way. I did laugh that the "bug guys" were invited to her CIA graduation in the end -- in the book, she gets involved with one of them, but I'm glad the movie didn't go that route. It was more powerful that she was simply hit on yet again and deflected it. You will always get comments about Hopkins winning his Oscar for being onscreen for "less than 15 minutes total," and that's just not true. Hopkins has over 36 minutes of screen time from beginning to end -- and every one of those scenes is incredibly intense. I definitely think his Oscar was well-deserved. I echo the others that the "Hannibal" TV show was fantastic. I'm also a huge fan of Mann's "Manhunter" (early "Red Dragon" adaptation), although I dislike Brett Ratner's later "Red Dragon" and Scott's "Hannibal" adapatations from the books.

Grand Moff Slackin'

“Oh, ok, the tuck.” - I must have missed it the first time around, but that comment really had me laughing this time.

pinkdino99

Red Dragon = prequel, Michael Mann actually made this as a TV movie called Manhunter back in the 80s with Brian Cox as Hannibal. Hannibal is the sequel which is massively underrated by Ridley Scott with Julianne Moore as Starling. The TV show is a earlier prequel with Laurence Fishburne as Crawford and Mads Mikelson as Hannibal. But the gets REALLY silly, especially is season 2.

Deadly Ramon
>>132952655

You mean her FBI graduation. I love the Hannibal and Red Dragon films, though I admittedly haven't read the novels. I hope the hosts react to those movies, too.

Paul Davey

The Hannibal Lecter books were written by Thomas Harris. The first book 'Red Dragon' was made into a movie in 1986 called 'Manhunter' directed by Michael Mann. The second book 'The Silence of the Lambs' made as a movie in 1991 is a reboot and has no connection to 'Manhunter'. Second movie of this series (and third book) is 'Hannibal', followed by 'Red Dragon' (first book), and finally 'Hannibal Rising' (fourth book).

lastboyscout73

There is a sequel called "Hannibal" but Jodie Foster doesn't come back for it. Personally, I have never seen it. I always heard it was a big let down. Anthony Hopkins won an Oscar for "Silence of the Lambs"

RavenLunatic

The version of Red Dragon starring Anthony Hopkins is the only other one I would suggest. The prequel film of Hannibal Rising isn't terrible though.

Joe D. MacGuffinstuff

The prequel Red Dragon is my second favorite of the Anthony Hopkins Hannibal films. Also, Hannibal Lecter is the perfect name for the character not only because it rhymes with cannibal, obviously, but also because the real Hannibal, the ancient Carthaginian general, was a genius and the single greatest threat to ancient Rome, he was their Darth Vader, and Lecter sounds a lot like Lector, Latin for "teacher". I had to mention Vader because, I forget it was a poll of movie critics or movie fans, but Hannibal Lecter and Darth Vader were voted top two movie villains of all time, I believe Vader was number 1, not sure though.

JayF

Want a crazy trivia fact for this one? Anthony Hopkins was only on screen for 16 minutes. I'm really enjoying your reactions.

William

Michelle Pfeiffer & Sean Connery were offered the roles of Agent Sarling and Hannibal but both turned it down. Bad decision, the film swept the Oscars that year

Curious

In the book, when he tells her that her bleeding has stopped, it's revealed that he can smell the band aid she was using. Several of the things that seem like mind-reading in the movie are explained in the book. But, while the book is, in its own way, absolutely a top thriller, Anthony Hopkins's Hannibal Lecter is far more compelling than the Hannibal Lecter of the book.

Matt Gwinn
>>70223299

It's wasn't as good. I think Hopkins kind of lost the character inbetween the films and never really recaptured the feeling of Lecter.

Matt Gwinn

The Hannibal TV series with Mads Mikkelson as Lecter is as good, if not better, than Silence of the lambs. It's a prequel about Lecter's background and his complex relationship with the agent that ultimately captures him. I highly recommend it over any of the other movies..

Ricardo Alanis

The sequel, Hannibal is OK but I much favor Red Dragon which is the prequel and both Hopkins and Edward Norton are amazing in it. I definitely recommend Red Dragon