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American Psycho - Patreon Version (Patreon)

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2023-02-11 13:00:03
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No Sync Required Version: https://cinebingers.ca/VgoOqaeu17 - For Patreon tier "Bingers on The Wall" or higher.

Movie runtime: 1:42:02

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American Psycho - Patreon Version

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JediLounger

They are watching the unrated cut. I adore this movie. It has so many layers it is difficult to comprehend. If one is interested in expanding one’s enjoyment of the film, I strongly advise you check out Snakes in Suits, a book about the psychology of c-suite executives and upper management. One of the things I realized after reading that book and watching the movie shortly after is that almost everyone in the movie has some degree of psychological problem. Notice how the c-suite people all talk and never listen to each other, blow each other off and try to one up and impress each other. The business card scene early in the movie. But then the people who do not have psychological problems, the dry cleaner for example, she fully understands what Bateman says to her even though she does not speak English. There is also a third grouping of people, say the doorman when Patrick drags the body through the lobby, who are overwhelmed by apathy. Some other movies that cover similar material in a comparable fashion are Mr. Brooks (2007) and Gone Girl (2014). Other movies of note are Basic Instinct (1992), Wall Street (1987), Prisoners (2013), Nightcrawler (2014), Primal Fear (1996), Psycho (1960), Taxi Driver (1976). Note that the psychopaths in these movies don’t necessarily kill people. Edit: George, psychopaths indeed are highly charismatic individuals who lure people to them, similar to a venus fly trap. Check out Snakes in Suits, that book goes into great detail with actual analysis of lots the behaviors in the movie. Second Edit: I think Simone has the right of it on the music. Popular pop music is easy to absorb and attach to, so even someone who struggles with who they are as Bateman does can find some semblance of enjoyment out of it. It will also give him something to fall back on if he finds himself in a situation where he needs to actually talk to a real person.

Jeff I.

I agree with the (mostly) popular belief that Patrick committed at least some of the murders (homeless guy, Paul Allen, head-in-fridge woman), but there were also clearly some psychotic/delusional fantasy scenes as well. The movie's director has said as much in interviews. Almost everyone around Patrick is so narcissistic and self-centered that they frequently confuse each other's names/faces, which is why the movie ends how it did when Patrick is talking to the lawyer about Paul Allen. In a more abstract sense, the movie's ending is critiquing the greed, materialism, and self-absorption of the 80's yuppie rich class that inadvertently allows Patrick to get away with his crimes. And yeah, the movie is supposed to be kind of a dark comedy with all the humorous moments/lines. Glad you two enjoyed it!

Jeff I.
>>101672618

I would love for them to do Nightcrawler! It's one of the best film's of the 2010s, and Jake Gyllenhall puts on a masterclass in acting.

Com1xguy

Read this book the year it came out and passed it around to all my friends in high school. Never thought they would make it into a movie. Loved the movie as well. Cannot wait to see their reaction to how insane it is!!

Grand Moff Slackin'

There’s a tangentially connected movie called Rules of Attraction that I think is underrated. The main character in Rules is Sean Bateman, younger brother of Patrick Bateman. The movies aren’t connected other than that. The same author, Bret Easton Ellis, wrote both books.

Grand Moff Slackin'

I like the idea that it was all a delusional hallucination. But a more disturbing theory is that it all happened. But Patrick is a rich white American and thusly he suffers no consequences. When he pushes the issue with his lawyer the lawyer gives him a stern look and basically tells him to drop it. The real estate agent does the same thing. I took the realtors change in demeanor to mean “I cleaned up your mess and I’m not losing the commission on this Central Park condo so get the eff out of here.”

Tenn Seven

These guys aren't the "yuppie" set, they're the "masters of the universe" set.

Jip van de Geijn

I always felt like he did killed Allen even when the lawyer said he had dinner with him in London. Cause names are mixed up all the time and everyone looks alike. The lawyer could’ve mixed things up. Also Bateman himself fabricated the London story and that’s where the laywer saw him. Plus the detective said that someone thought he saw Allen in Londen but mistakes him for someone else. Maybe the lawyer mixed up the same people. Also when you said that thing about vampires I thought, you guys should really watch ‘What we do in the shadows’. One of the funniest movies I’ve seen and it’s written and directed by Taika Waititi. It’s great

JoshG

I believe he definitely killed some of them at least. I think whenever he put the mask on to check the bodies, they really were there, but the realtor cleaned it all up. Everyone in this movie is filled with greed and if word got out that this expensive apartment was home to a mass murder, it would completely rank the price. That’s why when she noticed him with the mask, she tried tricking him to see how he got there. Then when he lied, she told him to leave and said she didn’t want any trouble. In regards to the ending, I read it’s intentionally left open to interpretation. Everyone in that world is so obsessed with personal greed, they never pay any attention to what’s around them. I Iove seeing actors portray such different roles so well, because… that’s my Batman

Tenn Seven

The murders were not Bateman's imagination. The movie's director Mary Harron said in the past she was surprised so many people weren't sure the murders were intended to be real. Additionally Bateman's lawyer references the "call girl murders" (or something like that) when Bateman is trying to confess to him. People in the movie keep placing others at various events and calling Bateman by the wrong names simply because everyone involved are just so superficial, generic, and interchangeable that the keep mistaking each other for someone else.

REDR58

American Psycho, directed by a Canadian and starring an English actor. Another excellent movie you should check out starring Christian Bale is "Empire of the Sun" from 1987 and directed by Steven Spielberg.

Jeromy M
>>101692368

I loooooove Empire of the Sun, shown all my friends. Fantastic film and debut for Bale

Cubonemaker

Such a bummer that Whiplash keeps just barely getting second or third place. This one is a freaking classic though.

Steve Mercier

I never saw the ending as "it's all in Patrick's head..." This is a commentary on the greed, emptiness, and exploitation of the 1980's. In this world, everyone and everything is interchangeable--people, apartment buildings, jobs, restaurants, lovers, friends. Everything is a carbon copy of everything else--a dystopian capitalist nightmare. And everyone is a psychopath in their own way. Patrick is a literal psychopath--but everyone is off doing horrible things, and no one wants to give the game away. Moments such as 'FEED ME A STRAY CAT' and an exploding cop car may be in his head; but I'm not sure the rest is. And in the end, Patrick gets away with killing Paul Allen (and everyone else not a part of this world), because: 1) everyone thinks that someone else is Paul Allen; 2) everyone thinks that Patrick is someone else; and 3) anyone who knows anything at all about the actual killings (like the landlord in Paul Allen's apartment) just wants to cover it up, and move on--to make more money, and so they can keep on doing horrible things too. In the end, Patrick (whose breaking moment is a confession, and a desperate attempt to stop himself) eludes capture because this 1980's world doesn't want it to stop, and will simply continue killing.

Jiří Svašek

IMO when you're a psychopath, you enjoy things much more than ppl. That's why he keeps talking about his favourite songs. Presenting what he likes to other people brings him as close as he can get to some semblance of happiness.

Astraeos

Oh great, more version differences. I have the theatrical and the extended version both available on HBO MAX, however neither are of the runtime listed by George at the start of the video. Anybody with more knowledge than I know which version was actually watched by the channel?

Astraeos

Also, this movie is definitely pretty spot on with it's portrayal of FinanceBros. They are all a buncha Patrick Bateman/Jordan Belfort wannabe's in my experience, so pretty much spot on. Highly recommend you never interact with FinanceBros, ever

Jeff I.
>>101698560

It's the extended version, but it's only like 30 seconds extra so nothing big. The only difference is that, in the theatrical version, Patrick isn't shown going into the drawer and getting a coat hanger when with the two escorts (IIRC).

Thomas Yanez

Great reaction - they were both so invested during the movie. I think George might have been working a bit too hard to predict (incorrectly) what was going to happen scene-for-scene, but that's what George does and one of the reasons I'm here. That said, it gets a bit frustrating, watching them discuss parts of the movie where they talked over the dialog and are working with bad info. Like when Paul Allen first met Patrick in that scene before the part with the business cards. He definitely did use the wrong name and Patrick even explained what was going on in voice-over, but in the post-movie discussion, they agreed Allen hadn't used any names and Simone was wondering about the identities. I hope she does go back and watch again as she suggested so that she can pick up the bits missed the first time.

Logan Kerlee

I'm really happy that you both enjoyed this movie! I'm glad that it was recommended and voted for. This one's definitely dark but also very entertaining. Bateman is a legit psychopath. The only bits that we didn't get much on was his childhood and how he developed into what he is. All of that's not important though - really. He's one hip dude who's a vicious killer. My mind is drawing a blank for a comment on here right now but whatever - I'm glad that you both liked this! I was a little worried about how you'd react but it all turned out. :) Glad that Simone dug on his music!! That was a lot o fun for me - seeing her realization that she digs on the same music. xD hahahahaha Good stuff!

Logan Kerlee
>>101693061

Not going to lie - I voted for this one, this time around. I'll be voting for Whiplash next though. Love that movie!

Mitchell Bowker

It's easy to interpret the film as being all in his imagination, or a psychotic delusion, because if nobody notices or cares about your crimes or evil misdeeds - like a tree falling in the woods and no one is around to witness it - did it really happen?

JayF

Never got anything out of this one. It seems pointless and chaotic. Bale is great as usual but other than that there's nothing noteworthy to me. If I want to watch a movie about how evil the 80s were I'll watch Wall Street (1987) which is a much better movie IMO. If I want to watch a movie about psychopathic killers I'll watch Silence of the Lambs or No Country for Old Men which are also much better movies IMO. A lesser known Christian Bale movie that I'd recommend is Hostiles (2017).

Ben

Don't worry Simone, I also share Patrick Bateman's taste in music, thankfully though the similarities end there!

akaTheBARON

🖤Wait... Wait... Christian Bale played Patrick Bateman. Bate Man... He also played Batman... Bat... Man... Batman wears a mask when fighting crime... Bateman wears a mask when doing crunches before committing crime... Bateman and Batman are both rich. Batman lies to Commissioner Gordon, a cop, about his identity. Bateman lies to Detective Kimball, also a cop, about his alibi. Batman wants to be a symbol. Bateman wants to be a status symbol. Something here doesn't add up. I don't know what it is but I'm going to find out. There's a connection here, I know it. And does Simone liking all the same songs Patrick Bateman likes make her the Canadian Psycho? Canadian Psycho of course meaning she probably goes out and does horrendously nice things for people in such a haze that she is unaware of what nice things she's actually done vs what she isn't sure she actually did while dancing to "Hip To Be a Square?" Tune into the next episode of Cinebinge right here on Patreon to find out how all this connects, and MORE!

Bruce Bromley
>>101702171

George would over think Winnie the Pooh. I used to hate, it but now I enjoy it. Reminds me of those film analysts that need to find hidden meaning in every shot. Yet, sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

Odd Thomas

Everyone should watch it once for Bale's breakout performance but I have no urge to ever watch it again, and that's kind of the point

Travis

Simone’s face when he stomped the dog was definitely top 3 angriest she has ever been 🤣🤣🤣

gobmob2000

Bateman is fascinated by music because it makes him feel something, in the beginning he said he was just a mask but underneath he did not exist, he is not really there. The music makes him "be there" I suppose, but its not enough so he murders to feel present and alive.

Bruce Bromley
>>101734276

She often gets that look when an animal gets "harmed" for the sake of the story. No matter the genre. I remember that look when Jack Black drop kicks Baxter of the bridge in Anchorman. Thank goodness he comes back at the end to save the day.

Patrick Jackson

A little late on commenting on this one, but there was an aspect you nailed without realizing it: When you commented that it was like Patrick was "reading off Wikipedia" about the music, you were actually very close. During his Whitney Houston rambling, he's actually quoting the linear notes on the inside of the album sleeve. He has no idea how to actually talk to people. All he can do is an impression of it. And the only reason he can do it is by studying what other people say - people smarter than he is, and more eloquent. It's all a façade to make himself look better. Because if we learn one thing from this movie, it's that image is everything. Because for Patrick, that's all there is: Image. After all, he's just...not...there.

Philipp Roensch

The lobbies of the building and all the similarity of the office spaces. is because this movie is firmly placed at the old World Trade Center towers. Apart from the electronics and music, one of those movies that became a time capsule now. I've seen a comprehensive comparison with the short novel as well and believe one of the main themes is immunity and anonymous power of the most wealthy, they (the yuppies so to speak) are all carbon copies of each other, trying to only beat each other's vanity and self-image while leaving personality or humanity behind. Also, what for Patrick Bateman is murder, fantasy or not, if you think of what the rich and powerful do all day, it is ignoring humanity when firing people and taking from everyone beneath them.

Sergey Tereshkin

12:50 of the movie and George starting to understand that maybe all of the liberals he is listening to are psychos and don't really believe in things they say...? hehe