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The Wire: Season 5 - Episode 7 & 8 - Patreon Exclusive (Patreon)

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2023-08-08 12:00:01
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The Wire: Season 5 - Episode 7 & 8 - Patreon Version

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Fuzzy

Sheeeeeeeeeeeit

Boyan Konov

During the Wire podcast HBO released last year for the anniversary of the show one of the main writers for S5 mentioned that a lot of people miss a particular meta theme that is present in the season. They kinda got tired of people explaining to them that if only the right people would be in the right places everything would be fine. They wanted to show that the systems the show deals with are inherently broken and there was no way to fix them in their current state. So thats why McNulty and Lester basically running the police department equals to the same shit as before. That and the famous "Dickensian aspect" comment that a lot of critics made at the time of release are meta commentary on how the show was perceived and really pissed off the writers room.

Ph4ZeD

So sad it’s almost over :(

JediLounger

This one is gonna be rough. Edit: That is indeed it. As Omar would say, it’s all in the game.

j c

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Jeff K

I gotta tell ya, major kudos to George for cracking the clock code during the episode 7 wrap-up discussion.

Erik D

As a Swede I'm deeply offended by the "IKEA furniture is difficult to assemble" tropes.

Chris

That ending with Kima saying goodnight is another scene lifted straight from the book Clockers by the Richard Price, who wrote this episode. Have said it before but at least half of what makes this show so great is the crime novelists such as Price, Dennis Lehane and George Pelecanos David Simon got into the writer's room.

Pryce Davis

You may recognize the kid who got Omar as Kenard, the youngest member of Namond's crew in season 4 who Michael beat for stealing from Namond and who, earlier this season, got in a fight with Dukie.

GDC

Omar's death was first foreshadowed in Season 4 when he saw Michael come to meet Marlo and said "He's just a kid." and walked away. Omar was never going to let his guard down and let an adult player get near him, kids were his blind spot though. Also, after Butchie's murder, he went against his moral code (went against his word to Bunk about no more killing, killed Savino who hadn't done anything to him or Butchie) which also sealed his fate.

MacGuffinStuff

Honestly the US jury system does not make sense. They have gotten so many verdicts wrong it's ridiculous. The idea was, you get tried by "a jury of your peers", problem is, sometimes your peers are morons, and they're easily swayed by rhetoric. Sorry, don't mean to get controversial, but it's one of the weird nuances of the US justice system that, in my opinion, is dysfunctional. How do they do it in Canada I wonder?

Shane Leslie

On the street Omar was a legend. People ran at the mention of his name. But in another world he was a statistic, so much so that his corpse was mislabelled. The Wire is that good. Also congrats you've earned your FUCK KENARD badge. Before you say the name (fuck) Kenard you must say the word fuck (Kenard).

Jeff K
>>114762259

Not just that, but Kenard is briefly introduced in season 3, when Bunk is investigating Omar’s crew member’s death and a group of little kids are playing. One says, “It’s my turn to be Omar!” That kid is Kenard, foreshadowing his death two seasons in advance.

Guillermo Antonio Ricci Alvarez

About the cat, you can see when Omar is going around the corner that the cat pass around the other side showing the kid let him go

John Richards

A Wire merges with reality item: Billy Murphy, Clay Davis's flamboyant defense attorney, was played by the late Billy Murphy, who was actually a high profile, flamboyant Baltimore defense attorney.

John Richards

An Omar tribute: The Baltimore Ravens NFL team plays Omar whistling over the stadium PA before their team comes onto the field.

John Richards

One last thing: in honor of season 5, I suggest a news related movie poll: Spotlight All The President's Men The Post Network Broadcast News Absence of Malice

Gary Fixler

I had to look up Snoop, because something about her seemed too real. Turns out, she's as real as it gets. She's from Baltimore, grew up like the people in The Wire, and her wiki page starts out "Felicia Pearson (born May 18, 1980) is an American television actress, rapper, published author and convicted murderer." Omar got her the job. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Felicia_Pearson

Andrew Dunn

I think everyone has the same initial reaction to Omar's death. But the unceremonious nature of it and how it slips through the cracks everywhere (in the media, even in the morgue) is a really great point, I think, and I ended up loving it as a thematic ending for his character

Jeff K
>>114767174

When Anthony Bourdain did an episode of No Reservations in Baltimore, he went and got food and talked to Snoop and the real Jay Landsman (aka Detective Mello on this show). Definitely worth a watch. (It's not an episode solely about Baltimore, for those seeking it out; it's his "Rust Belt" episode where he also visits Buffalo and Detroit. Also important to note that Bourdain was a massive fan of the show, and later went on to write for David Simon's next series, Treme.) Also! When Bourdain went to Brooklyn, he had both Michael K. Williams (Omar) and Jamie Hector (Marlo) on, as well. Again: Tony Bourdain was a giant fan of The Wire.

Jeff K

One other note in episode 7, when Gus goes into the bar and talks to Mello (the old cop who was Bunny's second in command): if you're wondering why they lingered on the guy at the bar with the sunglasses talking about paying his tab, that actor is Richard Belzer, whose most famous character is Detective John Munch -- a character he played on Homicide (created by David Simon) and later in the Law & Order universe, most notably in SVU. But the reason he's there is because his character, in addition to being a Baltimore cop in the show Homicide, was based on the real Jay Landsman... who plays Mello on this show. So if you'll notice at one point in the scene, both Mello and Munch are in the same frame, at opposite ends of the bar. So the most famous character inspired by Jay Landsman and the real Jay Landsman are both right there in the same shot.

Spacedone

Omar's senseless and sudden death was chosen to not give him a moment like Stringer. Omar was a legend, a myth to all the street kids, so they decided to show how little that meant by having that legend gunned down randomly by one little kid with a gun. Kenard was seen in S3 playing as Omar in the street after the shootout that killed one of Omar's female partners. He's idolised him like Robin Hood as a kid and he's young enough not to be too scared but as one of the corner kids, one that Omar dismissed as not being a threat, he's also old enough to want the street cred he'd get by taking him out. "How to a man rob drug dealers for 8 or 9 years and live to tell the tale?" "Day at a time, I suppose."

PIG
>>114763400

Or any nation for that matter. I'm not sure how much better they are if you talk to people from other places. It might (I'm not sure) be more of a human problem than a national problem.

PIG
>>114759334

lol! I've never had a problem myself, actually. Not sure what the big deal is.

Shonnicus

Before the end I wanted to to state how much enjoyed watching this series with you two. I watch The Wire every year and this has great anytime I have fresh eyes on the show. Especially season 5 which I struggle sometimes with but you have made it very fun.

Khan1001

Re-watching the Wire after a long time with you guys has been really great and reminds me how good this show really was and still is, also if you love Idris Elba as we all do! if you haven't already, you need to watch Luther (BBC crime mini series) at least the first couple of seasons and its really easy to binge.

Davide Figus

I don't think it was mentioned in the comments but episode 7 was directed by Dominic West aka Jimmy McNulty

Jeff K
>>114782683

Yep! I wasn't sure if they'd notice it during the opening credits, but Simone noted it in between episodes.

Danika Silva

Kung-fu Panda 3💯💯💯👍🤞🇨🇦

JP

Again, Still saving the Wire for a rainy day, but I know Im missing out lol

Robert Cooper

That device at the opening of episode 7 is a Compaq Aero. It was a Windows CE palmtop, and is both era and use appropriate.

Robert Cooper

George: Just like that? That's how it goes.

Jeff K
>>114800998

And because Munch was on X-Files, and Mulder and Scully were in The Simpsons, we can infer that The Wire exists in the same universe as The Simpsons, which should send George OVER THE MOON.

John
>>114782554

I agree it has been great watching your reactions and season one of Luther is 6 episodes and really well done

Travis H

For anyone that post themselves wearing CineBinge merch to Insta (or whatever the new thing is) may I recommend you also tie a red ribbon to your wrist as an in joke for those watching The Wire here.

Grand Moff Slackin'
>>114758895

George is getting too good at his predictions. He’s the Nicholas Angel of movie reactions. He’s gonna put us all out of a job!

dys
>>114773143

It's also a real contrast to Bodie's death, Bodie was definitely one of the more competent characters in the Barksdale crew but he was never a legendary badass on Omar's level... but he got a very badass death scene, going out defiant to the end, while Omar got taken out apropos of nothing by a little kid.

rmv4life

I read somewhere that the actor who played Kenard actually thought he shot Omar and his reaction is genuine. They apparently didn't tell him too much prior to the scene and he was crying and had to be consoled, thinking the death was real.

Bennett Holleman

George disparages newspapers while Simone defends them. This show brings out people's natural responses to stimuli based on experience.

Blacky

Indeed, this is not a normal show, with nothing but manufactured emotions alongside story arc. "Live by the sword, die by the sword"... for someone who had years, years of robbing drug dealers, which is one of the most dangerous occupation there is, that someone could very much die like that. That's the other side of the coin of his reputation.

Matthew s

Stringer's death was more grand because he was crime lord at the height of his power. He was protected by a body guard and an entire criminal organization. The only way to take him out was a major betrayal and a planned assassination. Omar was just one injured dude out on the streets talking shit about Marlo. I think both deaths were realistic given the each man's status.

Michael Kang-Beats

Omar was a snitch who robbed drug dealers. He's lucky to have lasted as long as he did. Also, the "horse" is a common metaphor for heroin.

RarelySober

guy with the horse bubbles worked for at the start of the series, its just shows the next generation taking the casts spots with nothing changing.

tullius cicero

Pretty sure the guy who sings this cover is BUBBLES sponsor who is a musician

Byron Abrahams

I grew up in an equivalent neighbourhood. What we call townships here in South Africa. Nicknamed Gangland. And I saw the same kind of thing happen that happened to Omar. A gang boss, real bad-b*tch mother named Maleng got shot in the head in a club by a 15 year old. No history. Just wanted to make a name for himself. A hundred gangsters wanted that guy dead, and some random kid got him. I was there. It was crazy.

Hexon66
>>114805475

“A man got to have a code!” - Omar Little Yet *another* nod to Peckinpah's classic "The Wild Bunch".

Hexon66

If we're being honest, The Wire gained traction after it finished from word-of-mouth. The primary audience during the run had been white, suburban middle class people who felt they got an insight into inner city culture. Then it expanded like a Pert commercial, they told two friends, and they....

Hexon66
>>114803000

You have to account for what kind of storytelling he's used to watching. It actually gave me greater appreciation for the show.

Hexon66
>>114754864

I'm continuously amazed that after so long people don't just regard that as a dopey catch-phrase, like "Whatchoo talkin' 'bout, Willis?" It gets old quick.

Hexon66

The junk man with the horse drawn cart is a nod to the job of 'Arabbers' in Baltimore. Often they deliver food, but not limited to that. It's also likely another homage to Homicide, as it was an Arabber who played a small, but significant role from the start of that series.

Hexon66

Though certainly Omar is his signature character, Michael K. Williams also did an amazing job portraying the character Chalky White in the show Boardwalk Empire, set in 1920s Atlantic City, and starring Steve Buscemi. In addition, there other brilliant supporting performances by Kelly Macdonald, Michael Shannon, and Stephen Graham playing a young Al Capone.

Pierce

when a judge says something about "strike that from the record" the jury is not allowed to use that in their deliberation in the innocence or guilt of the defendant. it will color their perception, sure, but in the jury room, they still have to provide concrete reasons to the judge why the defendant is innocent or guilty beyond a shadow of doubt. the things being struck from the record are just hearsay usually anyway. having served on jury duty in a criminal case, there is intense debate between jurors in the jury room- but at the end of the day, we need to provide reasons for why we decided the innocence or guilt of the accused, and it can only be based off of the evidence and the relevant testimony.

Pierce

man, i commented before, but it really is a shame how many great one-liner jokes that you guys have spoken over lol kima asking mcnulty about the assembling the ikea furniture and him asking "well, what kind of scotch are you using?" gus saying clay davis was "not only using the race card, but the full deck" theres so much good comedic relief on this show that goes missed in these reactions :(

Angela D. Mitchell

RIP Omar Little. How many years later, and it's still too soon. The late Michael K. Williams was absolute genius in the role (and in everything he played, also gone too soon).

Josh Yates-Walker

When the judge says: "strike that". They are referring to the court record. The judge relies on the court record during sentencing. Also, it's relied upon on appeal.