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Breaking Bad: Season 2 - Episode 6 & 7 - Patreon Version

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Jeff K

Episode 6 might be the hardest episode of the entire series for me to watch. It’s so fucking sad. Aaron Paul is amazing in it, though.

Danika Silva

Aaaahhhh, next week is soooo far away 😭🥺🤭🇨🇦💯👍

Jesse Nkinsi

Honestly if Walt had talked to me like that after that whole lie I wouldn't have been as nice as Gretchen. I would have told Skyler the the truth.

TwistedSage

It's good that Jesse was able to save the kid, the way he was being raised was pretty methed up.

Chris Henderson

Walt wasn't lying they did in fact screw him over. That's why she didn't rat him out.

Aaron M

Episode 6 haunted me for a long time when I first saw it. I've re-watched the show a couple times and I always skip it. I love your reactions but I think I will skip it this time too, it is too hard to watch.

Actuarial Lurker

Episode 6 is haunting...Episode 8 in your next 2-fer is fantastic

Actuarial Lurker

On one level episode 6 shows how decent a man Jesse is for what he does for the kid- on another level that kid wouldn't be in that situation if people like Jesse and his friends weren't selling that crap to his junkie parents. So some serious writing genius here

Actuarial Lurker

The music opening up episode 7 is a REAL genre of drug cartel music where just like rappers they brag about their exploits, targets, hist on judges and cops etc

Vwlss Nvwls

If it were me, when Gretchen wanted to know what was going on, I would have told her that I felt having them pay was too much of a burden for a friend, and that the way I was paying is somewhat shady and I don't want to involve them in it.

Jeff K

I was going to as well. This is the first time I've rewatched it since my initial viewing, and yeah. It's still a hard watch.

Vwlss Nvwls

From the very start, Walt was always cooking meth to make sure his family was provided for when he died, because he obviously figures cancer is fatal no matter what. He was not just doing it for the medical costs, they were just the immediate need.

Tim T—

Simone's somewhat extreme reaction to the turtle scene™ shows how great the small storytelling and misdirection of the authors are: We are already unsettled by the turtle but all of hanks beat are on his discomfort and panic attacks and that is we our mind goes. Then ... boom, surprise. God, it's already annoying to have to wait a full week for the next two episodes. I thought, I left network television behind.

Professor00

They didn’t get green lit for the whole show but they got renewals for the next season usually shortly after the premiere of the then currently airing season. The show was consistently a hit to the point where they had them split the final season so AMC could get more rev out of it.

djKENTO

Yall get to discover the musical art known as “narcocorrido”. This is literally an entire sub-genre of music from Mexico. Songs just like this all about the cartel life style. There’s a brilliant documentary about the music and life style called Narco Cultura. If you don’t speak spanish you might never know that that happy Mexican music you’re listening to is about brutal cartel murders and dealing drugs.

Jeff K

Love how in episode 7, it goes from the scene with Trejo's head on the tortoise (welcome to the show, Mexican cartels!) to Jesse saying "The game has changed, yo..." without realizing just how right he is.

Jomero

Can't wait for next week! Episode 8 is one of my favorites of the entire series.

Guillermo Antonio Ricci Alvarez

The reason for the teddy bear in the pool will be revealed later, but if I'm not wrong they showed something in the background already and is related to the teddy bear

Doug the Movie Guy

We get another piece of the puzzle for Gretchin, Walt's pride. The most telling line for me is Walt's growl at Gretchin "Rich girl just adding to your millions". There he was, clearly in a relationship with someone who was already rich, and he couldn't take the thought of not making his own money... and he left. He lashes out because he knows he made a mistake and his regret and anger is at himself. Also, Jesse is the good person.

Jeff K

I don't remember much of the episode, because it's been years since I've done a re-watch, but the one major thing that happens is obviously one of the touchstone moments in this franchise. And given it's the episode title, I feel like it's not a spoiler to reference it.

The Maestro

I hadn't thought of that, I'm sure that really contributes to how he behaves after that, along with what happens in later episodes

James B

The show was not super popular at the beginning just good enough not to get canceled. It was helped a lot by the writer's strike, because AMC did not have a new show as a replacement. BB started on Netflix before season 4 and that helped the show's popularity a lot.

Patrick

Pride is one of the 7 deadly sins for a reason. I mean, if Walt just takes the money, the entire show wouldn't exist haha I've DEFINITELY made decisions solely out of my pride that made my life more difficult. Maybe I'm biased, but in my experience in life...men tend to be more faulty when it comes to pride or asking for/accepting help.

Patrick

Yeah, especially since there are a TON of people like that in the world and kids who grew up in that type of house, only to be put into the foster care system...which is usually another type of hell.

Patrick

It must be because she feels guilty. Walt's side of the story can't be THAT far off if he really did get screwed out of the company.

Conner

Its important to keep in mind that while the junkie couple are horrible people, they are that way because of drugs. Drug addiction makes people awful, and I think this situation was used by the writers to show the audience another bit of immorality that Walter's criminality enforces. The line "victimless crime" is allusion to this I think. Earlier on in the season Walter muses about how illegal drugs don't really hurt anyone. This episode shows the reality of his false assumption. While Spooge and Mrs. Spooge and their horribleness isn't directly his fault, he still bears some responsibility for helping to prop up an environment where their drug addiction can exist and flourish.

Mike Miner

Haha I KNEW George would call out "ATM Machine." It bothered me at first too, but I'm sure professional writers know better, and Walter White DEFINITELY knows better. I think it was just one of those things that rolls of the tongue a little easier in rehearsal, so they just went with it.

akaTheBARON

🖤No spoilers but the show doesn't TRULY become Breaking Bad until the next episode, episode 8 IMO. So excited. Not implying the show hasn't been good until episode 8, I just mean... well I can't say but... you'll see XD.

Joel

thank you for recognizing what all the "universal healthcare" apologists can't seem to see. walts problem isn't the US healthcare system, he rejected the out that was presented to him

Mr TV Eye

A lot of people say that season 2 isn't that good, but IMO it's pretty great, there are a bunch of absolut top episodes in it. Both from today are fantastic (and the intro to ep 7 is my all-time favorite, the balls to put something like that into a serious show and somehow make it work is brilliant), and the next one will be a highlight too. BTW, when you finished season 2, do yourself a favour and re-watch that museum-scene at around 39:20 of ep 7. Ofc I will not tell more because of spoilers.

Mr TV Eye

That's true. Walt had a way out, he just would had to swallow his pride. Though a lot of people, who are not that lucky to have very wealthy friends, could have been f*d in Walts situation.

CD

E8!!

beecroft adams

Originally Elliot offered Walt a job at gray matter which came with excellent health insurance. There was no need at that point to keep cooking meth. As far as Gretchen's reaction to the lie I think she would also be worried where Walt is getting the money to pay for his treatment. As a friend I'd be concerned for Walt's wellbeing assuming he's either borrowing it or stealing.

Travis H

The show was not an immediate hit by any means. When it premiered i believe it was AMC’s lowest rated show at the time (but i could be wrong on that). What helped the show survive was positive word of mouth and more importantly it was winning awards (the writers strike also happened during production of season 1 which may have helped). I believe someone else mentioned that it appeared on Netflix during season 4 and that’s really when the show became a hit and each seasons ratings became bigger than the last. During its final run of episodes it was one of the biggest shows on tv! And they did not plan out the entirety of the show beforehand. They did plan out season 2 beforehand and stuck with the plan. But during season 3 the writers changed the way the show ran. They didn’t plan out much, they would create a complicated situation and try to figure out interesting ways for the characters to get out of them. They had an idea of where they wanted the season to end but nothing was set in stone, in fact the original idea for season 3 got scrapped midway through, and it made for a more interesting/exciting story!

An Inanimate Fucking Object

Yeah I was a little surprised how much Simone seemed to think it was unreasonable for her to ask questions about. In my opinion, Gretchen literally bent over backward as far as possible to not fuck over Walt, when really she had no reason to be that nice. I also don't think there's any real question, based on Walt's character, that her version of how he just left her/the company out of the blue is true

ln_wanderbooks

Don't forget Jesse and Walter had to deal with Tuco and his uncle who were related to cartels, and Tuco said his cousins were coming to take them to Mexico, so it's already related to cartel even if it's from afar. And considering the main topic of this show is drugs, there's nothing surprising about it anyway :-)

james repka

The original order for season 1 was 9 episodes, which was cut to 7 when the writer's strike happened (7 was the number that had already been filmed at the time). It had already been green-lit for season 2 at that time. In the 4 months they had off they threw out most of the story that would have ended S1, and they also broke the entire story of S2 (including the pre-credits sequences with the pink bear). Season 2 picked up a lot of viewers over season 1, and so S3 was approved just a few weeks after the premier. Beginning with S3, Gilligan and his writing team began to move more slowly and leave more to chance. They were known for writing themselves into tight corners that would require brainstorming sessions to extract themselves from. Critics' ratings continued to improve but rating simply held steady from S2. AMC threatened to cancel the show after S3, as it was expensive to produce. The producers began shopping the show to other networks, and incoming offers were strong enough that AMC backed down and approved S4. Between seasons the first 3 seasons were released on Netflix -- many non-watchers who were familiar with the show through word-of-mouth binged it that summer, leading to S4's ratings improving significantly.

Noe Ramirez

Wanting Walt to succeed but also reminding yourself that he is a bad guy is the duality of this show. Lol also I've been having a ton of fun rewatching this. I only watched it the one time so watching it again with y'all knowing where this show goes is great. (Also the song at the start of episode 7 is called a narcocorrido, it's a song about the cartel or other drug related things. haha)

Jesse

Walt is an antihero, much in the same vein as Tony Soprano in Sopranos, which is the best show ever IMO. But yeah, a lot of people really supported Walt, thought he was really cool, but hated Skyler. I think a big part of that is on the writing, Sopranos didn't have that same problem. It's still the issue of grappling with the fact that Walt is a bad guy but we also want him to succeed because he's the main character.

ALEX

Ep 6 Cucu one of my favorites you start to see the real faces of Walt and Jesse

Hexon66

Walt may have started out appearing as an anti-hero, but Tony was always a stone villain who the show humanized. Neither is an anti-hero.

redddfer44

What, really? They're saying that? I've always thought it's a fantastic season.

redddfer44

A bit of tv history: as far as I know, Babylon 5 (1993-1998) was the first US show that had a five-season arc planned. Not just "we'll make five seasons", but it was written as a novel for television. The main writer/showrunner had his secret notes and contingency plans (e.g., "what if this actor leaves the show) ready from 1987, maybe. It was a really risky affair, as never before had an American scifi show not called Star Trek managed to run more than a season or two. They pulled it off and when it works, it works beautifully. From the very start, they foreshadow stuff that isn't revealed until dozens of episodes later. But when they thought they wouldn't get season 5, they had to rush season 4 somewhat to reach a point in the story that would make do for an ending. That makes the part of the arc planned for S5 feel sluggish. Because it was planned out as a five-season story, they refused to make season 6. SO MANY things can go wrong in a project like that, that I'm not surprised that it isn't done more often. Mr. Robot (40 episodes over four seasons, IIRC), I believe, was also planned as a cohesive whole. Highly recommended.

Scott Gibbs

Sorry guys, but did you think perhaps Gretchen still didn't drop the dime on Walt over the money because part of her knows he's right about their past?

Nick Kessler

George nailed it. Ive seen people watch this show and not understand you don't have to be on walts side. You can enjoy the show, the story the writing and even enjoy watching walt even through his nastiest moments.

Anthony Jackson

You know i just wanted my 2 cents in to say im with Simone even tho i understand both sides. If my homies girl called him with a lie that he could understand, u lie. She doesn't need to worry about Skylars opinion and as Walts friend no matter her questions u take Walts side which in the end she kinda did. But asking to meet with skylar the same afternoon before talking to her friend (Walt) first was unnecessary. In the end, several ways you can perceive the situation and all can have an opinion.

Zorak

1:00:42 George you're a bit off here. Simone was right. The catalyst for making meth was NOT to pay for his treatment at all. It was to make money for his family. Walt started cooking meth long before he even decided to get treatment. Paying for his treatment is the secondary cost. The plan from the very beginning was to make money so Skyler could pay the bills when he was gone.

Thall

There is no real maternity leave in America. You might get lucky with the company and get a few weeks, but nothing official. It's quite expected for many women to be back at work a few days later.