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Black Swan - Patreon Version (Patreon)

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2024-02-15 13:00:03
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No Sync Required Version: https://cinebingers.ca/odP5FirEo7 - For Patreon tier "Bingers on The Wall" or higher.

Movie runtime: 1:48:07

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Black Swan - Patreon Version

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Mark Messer

If you like this movie, you guys should check out the directors other movie Requiem for a Dream

JakeyShakeyBakeyBoy

Ah yes, the movie that rekindled a brief paranoia of mirrors for me haha. That said the way the intensity and obsession over professional ballet is used to show Nina’s spiral into psychosis and unreliable shifts of perspective is so well done and ultra creepy. Despite “that scene” getting all the press, it’s nothing if not impressive to watch Portman’s unbroken takes of physically demanding dancing and her amazing emotional range. Aronofsky’s “Requiem For A Dream” is also a definite recommended watch, though be prepared is all I’ll say.

Elroy

I wonder if they are going to watch the last stand since they saw the last two x men movies

djKENTO

Would really love to see you react to Aronofsky’s other work on the pressure of performing, The Wrestler. Black Swan and The Wrestler started as a single movie but eventually split and became two brilliant films. Mickey Rourke gives one of his best performances in it. Also… Jim Carrey on SNL doing a parody of Black Swan. Enjoy: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uwby0YmAXVc

sol stapleton

i live in Cornwall and i'm really protective over Cornish pasties.

Jojack Mcgurk

I would LOVE to see you two react to Requiem For A Dream. The BEST movie you only want to see once.

djKENTO
>>129751935

After the last one George sounded excited for Simone to see what happens next and they made a point to say no spoilers in the comments so I’m sure it’s coming.

djKENTO
>>129753094

I really love how George is noticing all the imagery and pointing it out and then stops when the movie stops being subtle with things like color play and themes and basically starts yelling at you “DO YOU GET IT!? DO YOU GET IT YET?!!!!???” Really fun reaction guys! Already excited for whatever you watch next.

Paul Davey

My theory: Mom died when Nina was a child and Nina is unable to deal.

BangDroid

As an Aussie, there are two recipes that I'm particularly protective of. The first is Vegemite on toast. And the second is how to make Milo (a powdered choc malt drink). First you must use actual toast loaf on a high toaster setting this ensures the exterior of the toast is very crispy and the inside still fluffy. Copious amounts of butter to wet the surface, helps spread Vegemite. Margarine is acceptable. It's hard to describe the amount of Vegemite, but probably a good teaspoon worth on the butter knife, spread evenly across the toast. Prepare fast, eat while still hot! Secondly, how to make a Milo: Now you will come across gluttonous Aussies who'll say absurd things like multiple table spoons, they're wrong and only over compensating for their parents strict and stingy enforcement. The optimum amount is 3-4 teaspoons depending on the size of the glass. The method is paramount. Milo first in dry cup, then a dash of milk - just enough to wet all the Milo and stir it into a nice slurry. Then top the glass with milk and watch the slurry float on top, you don't want to mix in the slurry completely but stir just a little. The milk should be adequately flavored and you have a nice pasty choc slurry to eat once the milk is drunk. The Hot Milo variation is also acceptable, the method is the same but you use a mug and heat in microwave after preparing. If you want to spoil yourself or your S.O. it's ok to occasionally sprinkle a little More milo on top. Thank you for coming to my TED talk.

Spacedone

I went to see this in the cinema when it first came out. I knew it was a psychological thriller and that it was very similar to (a.k.a. largely stolen from) the anime 'Perfect Blue', which I was a fan of. It turned out that a lot of other people thought it was a nice ballet movie so the cinema audience I saw it in was about 90% teenage girls expecting to see Flashdance or something. This turned into one of the funniest cinema experiences of my life. A group of girls sat behind me and their reactions to what was happening on screen were hilarious. With each sex scenes there were increasingly loud cries of "Ewww!" and one of them exclaimed "Oh good Lord! Not again!" in such a tone of perfect exasperation and disgust that I literally had to bite my hand to stop myself from erupting with laughter. The movie was good too.

Odd Thomas

Yasss, I love when you do horror. A big influence on this film was The Red Shoes (1948). That film is GORGEOUS.

Cliff
>>129767504

Jeez, I admire you for seeing the funny side of it. That would have driven me nuts: I hate audience noise in the cinema, I think it's incredibly selfish and entitled and it pulls me back out of the film. I pay for the big screen and going-out experience, but increasingly the dumb-ass comments are part of the package.

George, If you were with me, you wouldn't be here in this strip club shaking it for dollar bills!

🖤Two other Darren Aronofsky flicks I'd recommend are The Wrestler and The Whale. The Whale has already been on a poll I think twice so I know it's on the radar. And he has other good films as well. I just recommend those two because while the two movie leads couldn't be more different, they're also very similar. I don't think the two films are meant to be compared, but I definitely do XD.

PureGonzo
>>129762446

I never heard that theory before, but I like it. My initial theory after seeing this film was that her mom had sexually abused her when she was young, hence the continued childlike behavior throughout her adult life and also the fact that Mila Kunis calls her “my sweet girl” after going down on her in her hallucination (which is what her mom always calls her).

windyWin

I watched this in my early 20s, and I enjoy it and still enjoy it. I can't remember if I ever flinched at any of those gnarly scenes, but watching it with S&G made me flinch. I must of had nerves of steel. This belongs to that list of movies that revolves around performers and artists, and their obsession with becoming legendary and achieving greatness, although the psychological horror element puts a different twist on it for Black Swan. I can't help but think of Whiplash. Pro Ballet dancers criticized the film and called it an exaggeration and cliche. Pro jazz players did the same when it came to Whiplash.

Odd Thomas

The Fountain by Darren Aronofsky is probably my favourite of his, but Black Swan is a close second. Other great 'women lose their minds' movies: Censor, Possession, Candyman

Opti_Frog

I've seen every kind of horror and extreme cinema. Nothing on film makes me wince like Nina pulling that hangnail.

Cincassette

You guys really gotta watch "Birdman"!!

Thirty Year Old Mulberry Field

If you continue with Aronofsky, “The Wrestler” is a more grounded thematic companion to “Black Swan”. And for fans of “the obsessed artist” trope, a few that I haven’t seen mentioned are “Fitzcarraldo” (and its accompanying documentary “Burden of Dreams”) and “Synecdoche, New York”.

JLee

Other's have been recommending Aronofsky's "The Wrestler" and count me in for this. Other's have recommended "Requiem For a Dream"... feel free to watch it. I've seen it once and filled my quota. I will obviously second or third the recs for the late great Satoshi Kon's "Perfect Blue." You can't go wrong with Satoshi Kon But I also gotta throw in a recommendation for the Powell and Pressburger classic "The Red Shoes."

Lola Lirola

Having watched a few of Aronofsky's movies (I stopped at Mother, because oof), it struck me that the main theme of his filmography is the voluntary physical abuse and degradation of bodies and flesh in pursuit of some kind of transcendence. Here it's ballet; in the Wrestler the face and body of Mickey Rourke are so mangled he's unrecognizable from his sexy 80s Colin Farrell-esque image; in Requiem, physical deterioration plays a major role... I find his movies difficult, and I personally think Black Swan is his best, but it's always interesting when filmmakers return to familiar wells over and over from different angles.

Lola Lirola

So, food stuff! Here in Spain, there are two particular cultural food wars: On the Department of International Affairs: Paella is a very specific recipe from a very specific region, and it has rabbit and lima beans, and a specific kind of rice called 'bomba'. Anything else that deviates an iota from that is an affront that can never be recognized as Paella and will be derided as "rice with things". Also, anyone daring to add chorizo to a Paella (e.g. famously, Jamie Oliver) is basically declaring war to my whole country. On the Department of Internal Affairs: Spanish potato omelette (tortilla de patatas) has the country divided in two Shalesperian enemy households between those who think it is better adding caramelized onions, and those who are purists and think we should never tarnish it. Personally, I can't care as much as everyone seems to about those two, but I have some personal strong beliefs about food: Fruit is always better cooked, and vegetables are always better raw. This includes spinach (much better raw), broccoli (tastier raw and just grated), and pineapple (much better cooked). Speaking of pineapple, yes it does belong on pizza! Eggs are for dinner and not breakfast (this one is cultural, we have them for dinner here). Pastries are better undercooked. There, now you can fight me about something fun! 😄

Lola Lirola
>>129798698

Oh, I just thought of another one! Tomatoes and fish don't go together. My sister and I were trying a recipe for cioppino once (it's a seafood stew from San Francisco), and decided to just omit the tomato, and it was much much better.

Lola Lirola
>>129765088

Fascinating! I have tried Vegemite and I really liked it! I had heard so many horror stories, but it's fantastically funky, really good. I never got up to a full teaspoon, though, I did more like a light swirl on the butter. I have heard about Vegemite grilled cheese, and the idea sounds really good... would that be heresy? The Milo is impossible to get here on the literal other side of the planet, so, grump. 🫤

Shonnicus

My favorite ballet movie l? Centerstage (2000). That's my secret pleasure. Also love White Knights (1985)

E. D.

Aww didn´t know George has a cat.. such a beautiful white kitty ps: it´s not his.. still cute

Conner

I do enjoy this movie but Aronofsky films really have the subtlety of a brick to the face

Monica Alarcon

LOL, me and two friends (all girls) and the mom of one of them went to see this movie and we were exactly like "Let's go see this dramatic film about ballet!!" and they were horrified (not me, I've been into horror all my life) so yeah... exactly like George said... oh I just remembered... One of them wanted to see "Mars needs moms" instead... that would have suuucked...

StarvinTheKids4Patreon

Almost Famous & Dazed and Confused and two great coming of age set in the 70s and are quite mild on the senses unlike this movie. And thank you for the great reaction.

Jacob King
>>129797645

Yeah PI is that but with the mind. I think the idea that transcendence (seeing the face of God) is forbidden is at the core of his artistic project. He can’t ever complete his vision. I’m the weirdo who argues for Noah as an important movie.

JediLounger

For a completely different, and more grounded, look at ballet I suggest Billy Elliot (2000). That movie is so desperately beautiful in it's desire for people to be their authentic selves no matter what. And let no one tell you different.

Martin

And to think, this is not Aronofsky’s most disturbing movie.

tullius cicero

I choose to believe that she lived and her suicide was also in her head. Just cause i dont want her to die.

Scott G

The Wrestler is another gem by Darren Aronofsky.

REDR58

Once you get to 500 years, how can you possibly be sure about exactly what people were putting in “authentic” recipes that long ago? The US is not even half that old. Anything we do here in the states may well have been forever as far as I’m concerned.

Grandalf
>>129822042

Fantastic film. I think they would love The Fountain too. Under-valued like too much of Aronofsky's work. Shit man, now I'ma have to rent the Wrestler.

JoeySnowyNoey
>>129823081

We have records of old recipes. Lol but I honestly see what you mean! There is a certain amount of recent history thats long enough where it doesn't really matter how it was hundreds of years ago because for us in this time it might as well of been forever!

JoeySnowyNoey

I fucking love this movie! And I really like Darren Aronofsky. He's films aren't always the best to me but I love his style! Please watch The Wrestler soon! To me it's a movie that should be seen next to Black Swan. I do a rewatch of these movies almost every year and typically I'll do a double feature just because they are so closely related. To me he basically made the same movie twice just one was a lot more artistic and the other was more down to earth realism. They both fit the style of the art they are portraying but hit all the same themes and story arcs. Not 1x1 but broad strokes very close.

Jesse Coombs

When it comes to dancing, I'd love to see you guys react to "The Red Shoes", "Singing in the Rain", or "All That Jazz". All these movies are about transitions, and they are all masterpieces.

Jesse Coombs

To answer George's question, it was shot on Super 16 mm film to capture a "cinéma vérité" feel. The film grain is intentional. Other modern movies shot on 16 mm, such as "Moonrise Kingdom" and "Carol" also capture a similar warmth and nostalgia. It's crazy how even a slight change in the visual medium can make the movie feel different.

REDR58
>>129987384

They should definitely watch those movies, particularly “All That Jazz” from 1979.

Jonas Buckner

"The Fountain" by the same director could be a great reaction movie because there is even less dialog than this one and much less body horror.

Farbod

This generation is so soft... lol