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Previous Posts as below for context:https://www.patreon.com/Tertius711/posts/story-update-166570348https://www.patreon.com/Tertius711/posts/tfsfm-chapter-7-166767329https://www.patreon.com/Tertius711/posts/what-story-are-166780724Hi everyone, First of all, I just wanted to apologize first. I'm sorry I'm so indecisive and bogged down your weekend with all these confusing posts as above. I just want to make all my readers happy but I suppose I just need to grow up and understand that that isn't always possible. So let's settle the matter.After a very confusing weekend with a huge rollercoaster of various polls, comments, concerned messages and comments both on Discord and here on Patreon, I think it's time that we resolve this once and for all because whichever story has its chapter written next, NOTHING can be written so long as this is left unresolved.I have decided to suspend the update polls, effective immediately. I received feedback in the past that many felt they were useless and causing resentment because Dragonlance always won dramatically so the polls felt rigged and fake even if they were actually genuine (and the Dragonlance readers have proven as much). Instead we will be running with an automatic schedule of 3 Dragonlance Chapters followed by 1 TFSFM Chapter. As the previous two updates were Dragonlance Chapter 6 and Chapter 7, this means that the next update (which will likely be coming out next weekend) will be Dragonlance Chapter 8 and only then TFSFM Chapter 7.

I hope this is a compromise that while it won't please everyone, it will anger the least amount of people. The Dragonlance voters that wanted Dragonlance to be the clear priority get a win and the diehard SW fans get their last chance at salvation.I just wanted to be frank and completely honest here. I've been growing extremely discouraged and disincentivized to write TFSFM the past few months. It's losing every single poll by ridiculous margins and even worse, I get zero audience attention from it. The number of likes and comments from its average chapter COMBINED are less than 20, the number of comments is always less than 5. It felt like I was writing for the abyss, just shouting into the void and nothing and no one could hear me and answer back. Now admittedly things were easier for Chapter 6, I found that chapter more interesting to write and it seems I got slightly more readers to comment and like it so that was nice and a potentially promising turn but things were really bad in Chapters 4 and 5 when I genuinely just wanted to write Dragonlance which was more interesting to me and giving me more returns for my passion and effort. If y'all noticed the difference in length between SW Chapters 1-3 and SW Chapters 4-6, this is why, full disclosure. I was genuinely just writing TFSFM out of obligation at that point, because I said I would, per the automatic schedule that it would get updated after Dragonlance won the update poll twice in a row. My heart wasn't really in it and I just felt so insincere and fake. It felt like I was trying to resuscitate a cooling corpse and it just hurt what was left of the SW passion in me to keep it alive on life support and nothing at all like the honestly amazing and dedicated outline for SW that I spent months of my life and passion crafting. I started thinking that if I wasn't able to commit the passion and my readers the interest to write that as it was in my outline, why even do it?To be frank, when I made that first poll, I was honestly just searching for justification to drop TFSFM all together and focus entirely on Dragonlance. I was not expecting the result. I was expecting Dragonlance to win dramatically as it always did in the update polls with a clear 80-90% of the vote. And while the 'Drop TFSFM, focus on Dragonlance only' option did win in the end, it only did by 65%. MUCH LESS than I was expecting.

I got a lot of messages and comments from concerned SW readers, begging me not to drop the story, saying they'll drop the subscription if I did, etc etc. And when I saw that combining the two options that kept SW alive gave a cumulate percentage of 35%, it made me realize that huh. Maybe the update polls were wrong. Maybe there was an audience for SW after all even if many of them were alright with the status quo of SW being the de facto lesser focus and only getting updates after Dragonlance was voted twice.It rejuvenated a lot of my interest for the story and I started seriously planning TFSFM Chapter 7 to be written (since per the previous status quo, it was to be updated next). When I informed all of you of my decision however, the Dragonlance readers did complain and honestly, fair. Rightfully so. It did win the poll even if not by the margins we might have all expected and the second poll I made to try and clear the air muddied things up even more.

So here's the final compromise (for now) and I genuinely can't change anything about it in the short term or we will never resolve this and get another chapter written. While I hope no one drops because their preferred story isn't as focused on as much as they might like, there's nothing I can do about it if you do. I just hope you continue supporting my writing even if not on the Patreon.

We will suspend the update polls and remove all ambiguity and resentment. Dragonlance is the clear and undeniable priority and it has its allotment increased to the compromise of 3 chapters before SW gets another update. I think that's the fairest approach I can go with right now. And I just wanted to give a final warning, that this is the LAST CHANCE for the SW fic. It's in the ICU at this point. When I calmed down from my momentary SW craze of passion this weekend, I began to look back at all the previous SW chapters and questioned to myself if this passion would actually be reciprocated this time. If it would actually mean something when it never has before. All my memories of writing for the void just returned and I hate that feeling.

I understand there's not as many of you SW fans here, I understand and I know Dragonlance is dramatically more popular with way more readers. I don't expect you to match their quantity but at least make up for it with quality of enthusiasm. Some of you begged not to drop it or even said you'd leave the Patreon if it was dropped but I haven't see you guys backing that up with action when the actual chapters came out in the past. Do or do not, as Yoda always said, there is no try. Going forward, y'all are gonna have to walk the talk. Comment, give likes, give feedback. I NEED to know that the story has an audience, that it's being heard, that people actually enjoy it instead of it being written in the vacuum of space. Its soul-crushing to spending days of my very real, very busy life planning and writing something for nobody. If nobody is reading, what's even the point?Y'all may resent that Dragonlance gets all the attention but the Dragonlance readers actually come out in droves to support their favored story with all the passion, enthusiasm, likes, and comments that motivate me to write more for them and keep my muse up.

Because when the new schedule goes into effect and I release Chapters 7 and maybe even 8 of TFSFM with my renewed passion and interest, if I get crickets again, it's over. I have to be real here. I hate the idea of dropping any of my stories because I've never done that before and I always felt proud of that fact but if people aren't interested in it, that's just how it's gonna have to go. It will go on Hiatus and who knows when, if ever, it comes back.Thank you all for taking the time to read this and I hope you all understand my decisions. I'll do my best to get the promised chapters out in a timely manner. See you all next time and enjoy the rest of your weekend.Kind regards,Tertius711

Comments

Lillow Lynx

As a person who’s here solely for Dragonlance I don’t mind at all that Star Wars fic will be getting some attention. It comes down to first past the poll voting always leaving some amount of people unrepresented. A system where everyone can win just to varying degrees is better and will allows both fans to enjoy their stories without unfairly depriving people of what their paying for. Good on you Tertius for working hard to find a way to resolve this is a fair manner. Good luck with your writing it’s always very well thought out and for lack of a better descriptor very comprehensive.

Dev

Oh nice! Happy that a final decision is reached and you are doing your best for everyone. Yeah I felt the polls were causing a bit of alienation and loads of confusion. I could definitely see why the last two polls caused so much panic for SW readers because there didn't seem to be any way to reverse course if the majority just wasn't caring about it. It'd suck to spend on something and have other people decide if its delivered. Happy that everything is made more clear and there's a chance for way more Anakin adventures. There's so much more to do in Star Wars that I feel like it'd be a major waste to drop the story.

TyrantGod

Although I prefer Dragonlance. I think you should continue with what you r interested in. Sometimes stories need time to pick up pace or generate interest. For me, my fav SW fic is a crossover with Avengers called Avengers: Infinite Wars by FreeManWriter It is a very long fic with Avengers landing during Clone Wars and changing lot of events and affecting lot of SW characters personalities You could check it out and see if it helps with your story in any way Other fics include Melodies of Force by athassprkr (Harry Potter in SW), The Song of Infinity by Johnnieboy11 (Halo SW crossover), Star Wars x Warhammer 40k by Heretical_Hatter

Reader

While I'm for Dragonlance, I'm also a SW fan. Thus, I have a question. Why did you choose 3:1 instead of 2:2 which is more fair to both audiences? How many chapters would the SW fans even get in the average month? Would it be worth the money they are paying every month?

Tertius711

Appreciate it. Hope both stories do well.

Tertius711

Dragonlance is more fun to write in the short-term but the plans for SW are more long-term and epic I guess. Idk. We'll see how things play out I guess

Tertius711

Previously it was on a de facto 2:1 anyway, the stories were never actually even. And since so many were voting to give Dragonlance higher priority or drop TFSFM, I felt the best way to to be fair and represent all the recent polls was to do 3:1. We'll see how things play out from here. Maybe the following SW chapters will be more fun to read and write and get more feedback and we can justify increasing its allotment. And yeah I understand that point, I'm not opposed if people drop and resub to read and give feedback only when SW is updated as what I'm primarily concerned about is to know that I'm not writing for a silent or worse yet, nonexistence audience. Anyway hope to make as many people as possible happy with both stories.

Jordan Redstark

i don't usually comment on Patreon "actually i haven't done it in years lol" but as someone who likes both fics when it comes to TFSFM i think one of the aspects i like the most is probably the possible future what ifs and divergences in regards to future events and how things can change from Canon and so on. I'm not great at expressing my view points but basically i feel like in a universe like Star Wars there is less of an undefeatable element like Dragons in ASOIAF, like sure you have the Force but its different to say the Targaryen's who are the only ones with access to the cheat code that are Dragons. in Star Wars the Sith and Jedi aren't the only factions with Force abilities and etc and as such i feel like that opens the opportunity for the MC to be vulnerable and etc, i personally like it when the MC is either the under dog or is in a comparable position to his main adversary. now on the other hand i think the thing i like most about Dragonlance is the fact that i can turn my brain off to be frank lol "what i mean by this is that im not actively theorizing where things could possibly be going, things are still very early so im not hook to the point where i will spend a decent amount of time thinking on possible future events" this is one of your fics where i have made sure to not potentially spoil myself by reading discord and etc. so yeah i have no idea where the plot is leading for this one, well ive got an general idea on where i expect it to go "death and destruction to the Martell's lol" and i think i may have read an early outline but i don't really remember anything. I've said it before but i like the idea of the possible Aegon II fic that you have explore around with in regards to possible planning, for one Aegon's opposition have Dragons so its not like he can steam roll everyone before him without any planning and etc. I've also said if you do end up doing a fic in that timeline that i think he shouldn't be to op, like unless he finds a hidden vault on Dragonstone with ancient lore in regards to magic or visits a place like Gogossos then what magic he has should be more of the natural innate kind like Warg abilities and perhaps an enhanced fire resistance. if one side had a flying nuke then i find it to be more interesting personally if their main rival also has one, either that or a setting where neither has one "would need to be a total different fic for something like that" i remember when i helped you plan out the military system for the Velaryon Archonate of Tyrosh in High Tide with the division and unit details, though the main driving factor in regards to my interest in that factor was because of the setting. in Dragonlance Daeron has Dragons "baby ones so they shouldn't be a factor in the fic for like 30 years or something" but event without them in regards to his obvious first target Dorne he has the might of the rest of Westeros on his side, as long as he doesn't fuck it up and is willing to be brutal enough victory is all but assured for him in such a conflict. now if your future plans for the fic revolve around him attempting to invading Essos and subjugating the Free Cities under the pretext of enforcing his and House Targaryen's natural birth right as the rightful Hegemon of all Valyrians as the last of the great 40 Dragonlord Houses then perhaps i could see things getting harder for him. Essos and the Free Cities are in general more densely populated and are vastly more centralized the Feudal Westeros and as such they can field distortional larger armies in regards to their small territorial size and for Daeron to militarily challenge a coalition of Free Cities without the aid of an adult dragon would be a massive challenge to overcome and would be a estimate to his military genius should he emerge victorious in such a conflict. anyway i like both fics so i would like to see both continued but if more people are interested in Dragonlance over TFSFM which is obviously the case then you should obviously priorities it, do 3 to 1 or hell 5 to 1 if that's what people are interested in, personally i prefer 3 to 1 over 5 to 1 as that is a massive wait but your gotta do what your gotta do.

Tertius711

Glad to hear your thoughts Jordan. yeah for now we'll do 3:1 Dragonlance:TFSFM and we'll see how things go. Deffo stay tuned for both stories!

Jordan Redstark

this topic isn't really related to the point of your post but this though has been on my mind for quite awhile so i might as well get it all out now while i remember lol. in regards to a possible Aegon II fic i personally believe it would be more interesting if the has no access to any sort of magic besides save some possible Warg abilities. i think things could be directed in enough of a different direction simply by self inserting someone who may have briefly skimmed through the Fire and Blood book int Aegon II body. an SI with a minimal amount of knowledge about the upcoming civil war could be more interesting then someone who knows everything, someone who knows enough for them to be aware of the Dance's inevitability and the dire need to prepare for it is easily enough is already a huge bonus for the Greens, it can be used to propel him into actions like despertaly trying to secure more alliances, in creasing his personal reputation with teh nobility and so on. you can also explore stuff like him seeking a domain of his own due to the unjust denial of his Birth Right and other shit like possibly establishing personal relations with some of the Free Cities, and so on. in my opinion the ideal scenario is where an Aegon II SI knows he is fucked, and has a limited amount of time to prepare but he is screwed in regards to the fact that he doesn't know everything. he doesn't know the fate of hi siblings "besides save Aemond having a deadly clash with Daemon at Harrenhal and the death of one of his sons" which he lead to him making the wrong decisions that in some cases trigger the inadvertently cause the worst case scenario he was desperately trying to prevent. i like it when the MC suffers "from a story telling standpoint" if they instantly know everything and how things are going to play out then it gets boring for myself personally. so yeah an Si having even a brief incomplete and mostly unremembered idea of the Dance is enough to make things possibly drastically different and quite interesting in my opinion.

Tertius711

Hmm. Interesting ideas. Perhaps we can explore further on the Discord.

Omar

I don’t really comment much on Patreon anymore. But for me, the biggest deciding factor in continuing the SW fanfic is you. Writing what you enjoy should be your biggest priority.

Lotus92

Didnt read all of that but for me it doesnt really matter since I like both stories so do what your muse wants you to do. Thats just my take

Ben

Ok I love your stories and I love SW but Force shall free me sits in this weird place for me of rhyming too close to Canon and Legends and I know it will get there but the Pain that I'm going to have to read is going to depress me. It's not you or SW just this specific storyline that I just can't get into.

Tertius711

Hmm. Not sure how much pain there is exactly but ok

Zenokya

Would be quite sad if you stopped your SW fic but in the end it’s your decision if you want to continue it or not.

Tertius711

Yeah. Still do stay tuned and supportive of both, best way to keep my morale up!