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Reaction to Stray Kids Thank You Vlives After Winning Kingdom: Legendary War (Patreon)

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Cassandra Leigh

I had never seen these lives and am really glad i got the chance to watch them from your reactions! I do believe that chan is a better person than most, simply because he tries harder. Do i think he is perfect? Not at all. I have enough gamer workaholic guy friends here in australia to guess what he can be like behind the scenes. But honestly, knowing that he is human and has those flaws makes him more special to me. Because I know how hard it is for me to be the bigger person, and Chan CONSISTENTLY chooses to be that even when he doesn't have to. That is what genuinely makes me like him. And I think his actions set an example for the rest of the group. They all try very hard to be the better person.

Katja van den Berg

So glad you reacted to this!!! And so glad Brenna recommended it. Thank you to both. I hadn't seen it (still going through older vlive stuff myself). And I loved this. Yes, Han does easily take on the role of spokes person or leader or whatever you want to call it, when CHan's not there. I think the type of thing Chan relies on Lee Know for as "secundo" is a bit different, but this is something you see Han do. Yeah, after a show it's hectic. I can see that in this type of show as well. There were sets to take apart (I know after a theatre show the entire set and all the rigging is usually gone within 60 minutes - it's hard work), they may have had time restrictions. Maybe even Covid restrictions that made it impossible to stay. So glad they did a thank you in the car. Yes, I really hope Chan really is that type of guy. It's always hard to really truly know with artists, as you only see what they allow you to see. And this could be something that they say because it's expected. But...I don't know....between what he's said on vlive about the things his parents, especially his dad, taught him...about how he thinks his dad is a hero for working with swimmers with disabilities, even working with paralympic swimmers. And how he wants to be like his dad. The way he talked about that is so personal. And the way he is with all sorts of other idols. How he plays all sorts of music on Chan's Room, also music of their immediate competition. I don't know...I think he does really mean it. I hope so. Had to love Seungmin here. He was so sweet in the way he talked about spacing out. And then later just being very random in comments. Very relatable. Had to laugh so so hard when you said "hold on, CHan, husband first". That was hilarious. And even more funny because today Chan apparently found out there were not only 'boyfriend memes" but also "husband memes" about him. Well...what do you expect when you do a show where you're so so good with kids AND do a fansign in a bridal veil. Geesh LOLOL. Anyway...thanks for this reaction!! Loved seeing this for the first time.

K-pop Auntie
>>93693944

What?! Chan did a fan sign in a bridal veil?! LOL. Priceless. I agree that Chan really does seem genuine. Like you say, it's hard to tell with celebrities. It's not like we get to know them on the same level as people we interact with face to face. But with SKZ, Chan in particular, it feels like they are coming from a genuine place and trying to open up at least certain aspect of themselves with honesty.

Brenna K

Oh sweet! I'm glad you enjoyed watching these! Glad to hear them talk about taking pride in being a part of Stray Kids and hoping that Stay was proud to be fans. As a fan, they make it VERY easy to brag about them, lol. So nice to hear their thoughts and it's pretty cool that they don't try to sugarcoat it too much. It was a rough time and they aren't afraid to be open about that, but they still seem to have a good attitude about it. Also you're spot on, when Chan said "The voice in my mind, and the thoughts in my head" it was mistranslated. The word he used was "마음" (ma-eum) which means heart. Totally agree, Han really does step up as a leader when that role needs to be filled. I feel like Lee Know, Han, Changbin, and Felix all fill these different support roles as leadership in the group. If Chan isn't there, Lee Know steps up as a sort of representative of the group and he tends to quietly support the group from behind. A little harder to notice if you aren't looking for it but it's there. Changbin seems to really fill that "hyung" role for a lot of the other members and seems to have quite a leadership role within the dynamics of the members specifically. Han tends to fill that leadership role socially, willing to be the energy and keep the atmosphere comfortable and the conversation moving. And then Felix's leadership mostly comes out during international schedules. English interviews, US concerts, stuff like that. Helping the members verbalize what they want to say, being inclusive and encouraging. And then I think Seungmin seems to take the lead sometimes because of his good English and experience as a host for various programs. Hyunjin and I.N. are the only ones that I haven't really seen play that leadership role yet. I'm sure they could if needed. But it's like they're both just further down the chain of command so there has never really been a need, lol.

Brenna K

It's always great to see Chan actively promoting not being toxic to other artists and fandoms. It's something that definitely makes him stand out and makes me respect him a lot. Stay's and Army's are being toxic? Chan plays a BTS song on vlive and talks about how much he respects them and then goes out to lunch with Jungkook. Stay's and Blink's being toxic? He jams out to Blackpink's music on vlive and shows off the hoodie that Lisa gave him for his birthday. Stay's and Engene's being toxic? He plays Enhypen's songs on vlive and then hangs out with Jake for the holidays. Stay's and Atiny's being toxic? He GUSHES about Ateez on vlive talking about how much he likes them all. He leads by example and I think that's one of his best qualities as a leader. Like you've said, of course its impossible to really know 100% if someone is being genuine, especially when you don't know them personally off camera. I'm sure Chan is not the exact same person on vs. off camera. No one is. I'm sure he has his own thoughts and opinions on things that aren't necessarily positive. Saying everyone in the industry is a team may be a slightly rose-colored statement, and i'm sure he doesn't feel that way towards everyone in the industry. But regardless of what a person's internal thoughts and feelings are, I think actions say a lot more about a person's character. Regardless of his thoughts, he always seems to make a real effort to talk about and treat everyone with respect and kindness. I remember in SKZ's endingments for the Sydney concert Felix was talking about how much Chan has taught him. Felix mentions not only Chan teaching him about the industry and music, but he also mentions Chan teaching him a lot about integrity and the difference between right and wrong. I think that's pretty damn cool. Side note: as a fan I really try to never put any of these guys on any sort of pedestal, morally or otherwise. They're just human beings, with shortcomings and mistakes and flaws just like everyone else. So when I talk about respecting Chan for the example he sets, that's really all it is. I guess I just feel like I should mention that since i'm gushing quite a bit here, lol. Lots of people have a tendency to talk about celebrities they like as though they're perfect people and that's not how I see it at all. I just find myself talking about having respect for his character because I really do think he sort of stands out in what's typically a pretty toxic industry.

K-pop Auntie
>>93713104

I agree with each of the leadership roles you pointed out. It speaks a lot to the freedom they feel and are given within the team that is SKZ. They fit in where they're comfortable. Hyunjin and I.N seem very comfortable with Stay, at least from what I've seen of their social media interactions with drawing and OOTD and all.

K-pop Auntie
>>93713142

I knew that Chan addressed it, but I hadn't realized that any toxicity in the fandom was met with him openly supporting the other group. That's awesome. A real-life example of everybody getting along. Living what he preaches. That's good to see. I agree that none of these guys should be put on a pedestal. And they don't want to be. There's a big difference, though, between saying you really respect and admire living by the creed you endorse... and espousing that Chan is a flawless example of how to live, or at least close to it. As you say, we ALL have our flaws and struggles. The thing is striving to be a better person than your bad temptations urge you to be.

Tea

I totally forgot about these lives even though i watched them live, but i'm glad i saw them again with you. I find these things interesting from the perspective of fans as well. I think in many ways Kingdom was an important experience for the fandom and gave stays confidence too. I joined in early 2020 and from what i heard 2019 was a really hard year for stays, not just because of woojin leaving, but other things and constant hate the group was getting. 2020 was better with god's menu and then back door, where they finally managed to get a music show win, but the fandom still wasn't as big back then so everyone dreaded kingdom, especially with mnet's reputation of weird editing and trying to make people look bad. Then kingdom finally started, introduction stage aired and everyone was trying to be positive but literally hours later rumors about Hyunjin started appearing and he went on hiatus a few days later. I can't imagine how hard that was on the group and i'm sure they were once again scared of people leaving and maybe not suporting them as much because of that whole situation but honestly i don't think stays ever worked harder than back then. I don't really want to get into the whole Hyunjin situation and i do agree with what Brenna mentioned in one of the comments but regardless of what the situation really was the timing of those rumors was really weird. I think that had an opposite effect on stay from what people maybe expected and Hyunjin not being there became an even bigger motivation, i remember so many people who never participated in any voting or anything like that before asking how to help and where to vote. I still see people using kingdom as an example of how the fandom can work hard and be united when some big award show or something along those lines where fans can vote is happening. 😁 It might sound strange to someone from the outside but I think Kingdom really did strengthen the skz-stay relationship and gave everyone involved confidence. This was a long rant no one asked for but it's really interesting to me watching the relationship these kpop groups have with their fans and how it changes over time, it's not anything new that didn't exist with celebrities before but the competitive nature of the kpop industry and the way idols interact with fans does give it a different dimension.

K-pop Auntie
>>93722841

Yeah, this time must have been so hard for them. With so much uncertainty. Very cool that Stay rallied around them and gave them such great support. Really loans credence to SKZ saying how they were more confident in Stray Kids at this point. They were probably very uncertain about their future at this point.