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Heroes Come Back EP355-356 [early access] (Patreon)

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2026-07-17 13:27:01
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okay so NOW we're done with yamato's arc 😭 let me just say these episodes really make me want to slander the third hokage like what are we doing here 💀 i'm starting to really not like that man LMFAOOOO i do love seeing kakashi stand up for himself and his friends though 🙁 WAAAAAAH!!

have a good weekend everyone!! see you on monday :))

timestamps:0:00 intro0:31 episode 35513:21 discussion14:51 episode 35627:57 discussion

REMINDER: please DO NOT spoil, foreshadow (ex. saying 'prepare for sadness' or upcoming quotes like 'you shall know pain'), or give me hints for any upcoming arcs/episodes! i know i ask a lot of questions and theorize about things but those are just THEORIES. ill get my answers as i watch the show :) thank you to my mods for deleting spoilers!!

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アッピー

Remember this is all filler, so please still like the 3rd please 🙏

ChinnyXP

The Third Hokage really was out here just making mistake after mistake.

Athleticgamer

That Konouchi with the purple hair was the one who had a thing with cough no jutsu dude lol. To be honest I was waiting for you to start shifting how you felt about Hiruzen and I'm here for it because it's deserved. I forgot how long Yamato's hair use to be like that shit always catches me off guard. Classic danzo being an evil bastard. Really love the dynamic between Kakashi and Yamato and them trying to relate to each other. I don't hate the third as much as danzo but I definitely don't like him and he infuriated me when i was watching through Naruto years ago.

Sora

The 3rd Hokage didn’t do anything about Danzo. He knew about Danzo and still let him do the evil things he did. That’s why many people don’t like him. Also Danzo is the worst!

Athleticgamer

Wellllllll dude was an idiot in canon too let's be honest also I'm pretty sure these are based on the light novels so technically canon.

Nikkelsen

I love the bond that Kakashi and Yamato have. Btw when we first saw Yamato, he got that "Codename" from Tsunade.

Chimp

Yamato got his name when he was first assigned to Team 7 by Tsunade if I recall correctly!

Lionell

Many may hate Danzo, but to me all I feel is indifference. Nothing about what he's done in canon nor filler makes me see him Any differently. In a world of Wizards acting as Soldiers I believe Danzo is the only Shinobi in the truest Sence. Someone who lives and breathes the darkness is what I'd call the only true Shinobi in this world aside from maybe Minato. Also I'm not gonna get onto the Third as much cuz I remember that not only is he responsible for the most Prosperous and Overpowered period in Village History, He also understands that his Village is the strongest Military, Assassination and Mercenary organization in not only the land of Fire but the World, part of that is because of Danzo who take care of the behind the scenes dirty work. And as Danzo says, None of what he's done is unknown, so if we're gonna blame Hiruzen for letting Danzo Slide, then we gotta give Minato the same smoke cuz he knew about the kind of organization the Foundation was and did not object, that goes for every Jonin level ninja too.

ame

im sorry but how many filler episodes left🫩

Ramon Fax!

You see Tsunade give him the name Yamato in the beginning of the second arc of shippuden, episode 34 actually. How did you forget that?

WanderingBecauseLostLol

For all the faults we find in Hiruzen I think it's actually a more believable look into how complicated the politics of a feudal society were than what we would usually get in media, and especially in children's media 😂

Alana’s pain

Ive never seen these before they’re actually so good! And actually that purple haired girl is the one from the hokages funeral episode, she sees kakashi at obitos grave/memorial and tells him to just visit him earlier so he stops being late, and kakashi replies and says he’s been there all day just thinking about all of his mistakes. That line kinda hits hard after watching these episode lmao

Kelven_140

we have like 4 more ep until we back to the war arc.

Abdullah

You can definitely criticize Hiruzen, and I do too. But I think people also need to look at him in the context of his own philosophy. Hiruzen himself says that where there is light, there must also be shadow to maintain balance. He knows exactly what Danzo is doing, and despite the damage Danzo causes, Hiruzen still sees him as useful to Konoha. Otherwise, he would have stopped him long ago. Danzo handles the dirty work behind the scenes—the things Hiruzen either can't or won't do himself. That's also why Hiruzen feels responsible for what Danzo became, since he allowed and enabled that role from the start. Part of it is the old Shinobi mindset: harsh, pragmatic, and focused on protecting the village at any cost. Of course, Hiruzen is also naive at times—he let Orochimaru go, after all. But that's what makes his character interesting: he's both a strategist and someone whose compassion often blinds him.

Alana Misako

next friday will be the start of the canon eps

Alana Misako

my bad for forgetting 2 lines from 300+ episodes ago about a character i thought would only be relevant for like 10 episodes!

Alana Misako

it does feel realistic and maybe that’s why i dislike him even more LMFAO

Alana Misako

yeah i don’t think minato is perfect! but i’m not sure how much the jonin level ninja know about the foundation though and everything danzo has done. ie. guy sensei (in an upcoming episode) was shocked that anbu kakashi and itachi were tasked with slaughtering/leaving no trace of some ninjas. so i have more disdain for the third hokage vs the jonin since he has the most power in the village and seemed to be very aware of everything that was happening behind the scenes

Alana Misako

yessss i remember her from og! i thought she was gonna get more screen time after that 🤣

Zion Fowler

The Third’s #1 hater🙋🏽‍♂️

Kevdaillest

Even then, most of his fault comes from letting Danzo do whatever he wanted cuz he wanted to believe in the people he loved, he did the same with Orochimaru.

Akxareth

The purple haired girl is Yugao, she's mostly a recurring background character but she was also the girlfriend of Hayate, the sickly exam proctor from part 1 that got killed off by Gaara or Baki (I don't remember which one.)

Lionell

I got you. although about the guy thing I have to caveat that with that its Guy😅😅 he's not exactly the most well informed leaf ninja at least back then, it'd be the same as if Naruto found out the duties of the regular Anbu, lil bro would be shocked about stuff that the rest of the room knows😅😅, the Anbu black ops aren't much better than foundation black ops operatives. which is why im not really pressed about Hiruzen cuz pragmatically speaking, he's doing what a shinobi should be doing. I also want to call back to something Danzo said to Itachi, "when push comes to shove, even Hiruzen will do what's necessary for the sake of the Leaf", i believe keeping Danzo and the Foundation falls under that, because they are a military asset that benefit the village by doing the dark underhanded things that wont see the light of day, one such Example is Yamato. Hiruzen would rather have a Danzo that he knows so well enough to reap whatever benefits from, than to lose him and face the other hidden Villages knowing they have their own Danzo Equivalents. Unfortunately, this is what the Leaf Gets Paid to do by the Land of Fire. HOWEVER, needless to say this is an interesting discussion even if it is on a filler arc that's loosely based on the Light Novels. it also brings up one of my critiques of the naruto franchise(Shippuden mainly) in that the more grounded and realistic aspects of being a ninja are only shown when Danzo's on screen and doesn't really permeate towards alot of the characters except maybe Itachi and sasuke(I'd still put shippuden as the better parts of the Naruto franchise by a mile)

Wasted Potential

The third hokage from og Naruto and the 3rd hokage from shippuden might as well be two different characters

eduardoclari_

3rd Hokage was a pacifist who followed the teachings of the first hokage. However, to some he may have taken it to the extreme. Whilst his intent was to unify the village, it made him too passive of a leader

Toribio

bro did you even watch this lil story? its peakk, and i didnt remember it, maybe never watched it because it was labeled as filler but holy, besides it isnt really filler because it has a loooot of correlation with the "canon"

Toribio

god level rage lmao chill down a bit, i have a feeling you are being sarcastic tho

Nate

I feel like with this arc, it adds a lot more to the weight as to why Yamato (as a former foundation member) was trusted to lead the New Team 7 with Sai in the early days of shippuden

CoffeeMister

I think by Kabuto? Not sure lol

Tobi.SG

Hiruzen is pure ideals no action, he can think and say the right things but he legit sucks at doing anything that isn't the status quo, Danzo on the other hand is self-deluded self-centered evil, he has to make himself believe that everything he does is for the better and that he himself is what's good for the leaf, that way it's easier for him to be a war mongering selfish bastard. I feel like Hiruzen isn't intended by Kishimoto to come across as close to Danzo in how bad he acted but it's still interesting to me how they're both a perfect example of leadership that grew in a different era and can't adapt as well to new eras. Danzo is still mentally in the era where constant struggle for stability and self-interest was almost necessary to advance, while Hiruzen is just glad it's supposed to be beyond that point so he'd rather sweep things under the rug and pretend the continuing issues aren't as bad or even exist

Rohan Kasiviswanathan

Hiruzen is honestly insane. He sends children out to fight in the third shinobi world war. Nagato said that konoha was responsible for starting the second/third shinobi world wars which means that hiruzen had to have played an active role since he was hokage. He is willing to sacrifice innocent children for wars that he is involved with but is a complete doormat with both danzo and orochimaru who are very evil men who have caused immense damage to numerous people. Not only that but he does almost nothing to stop the hatred towards naruto and does not take proper care of him.

ame

i understand it with 347 and 348 but next episodes till 362 is totally useless

Gyt

Lmao the upcoming 5 eps definitely ain’t useless it literally ties into the manga I don’t think u watched it before , these Yamato stories ain’t it I agree but 349-351 and 357-361 r really good

Goopman

So theres some major misunderstandings by the community and here on the third: First, he actively did help naruto as much as he can, providing money and a home. It was let slip by danzo that he is the ninetails, so the third forbid people to talk about it. However peeps be rude and kept treating him poorly. Its important to understand his place in this, there are many scenes where he guides naruto, talks to him and sends people LIKE iruka further into narutos life which help for the good. In the end though noone would take care of “the nine tailed fox” and we know the third struggles being active in even his own families life. Second, on danzo, they finished a war not long ago. They just got attacked by the ninetails and had a major disaster, losing their new hokage. If the third tried to deal with danzo, and violated the foundation/village agreement there is no reason danzo wouldnt attack or defend themselves. Attempting peace, with rules holding him back, he was doing the best he could. Not that he didnt make mistakes but that he could only act so far. We see this with the uchiha massacre, him actively pushing EVERY attempt for peace but danzo, behind his back, causing issues. Its also important to remember that just because we know of it doesnt mean he does, the foundation is extremely hidden.

Ray

The 3rd is tiny. Asuma is 6-3.